Tim Tebow Stays: What it Means
by SteveMeredith on Jan 17, 2009 1:44 PM EST
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PrintAs was the truth with any Gator Nation fan, I was excited to hear that Tim Tebow was going to stay for another season and help the Gators win yet another National Championship. As I was listening to the analysis before Tebow had made his decision to stay, some of the pundits were suggesting that Tebow make the switch from QB to H-back to up his draft stock. This got me thinking about how Tebow could make the switch, and honestly, I think if Urban Meyer designs a package of plays for Tebow to be used as an H-back, that it would benifit the Gators. For those plays, you could install Cameron Newton (listed at 6'6" and 240) in at QB, or possibly John Brantley.
Like I said, it would only be for a package of plays, but I think it would benefit Tebow, who many talking heads think is too big to play QB in the NFL, in addition to not running a "pro" style of offense while at UF. Tebow will still be the starter at QB, and thus be able to use his unprecedented leadership skills, not to mention his arm. But this package of plays would showcase Tebow in a way that could make him attractive to scouts, and ultimately successful at the NFL level.
It works out for Florida as well. You'd get to ease the QB of the future, (whoever that may be) into the lineup. If I recall correctly, Tebow was "eased" into playing when Meyer installed the two QB system during Chris Leak's senior season. This type of two QB system could keep Florida on a considerable "roll" and might contribute to its continued dominance of college football.
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Hmm.
Cam: Isn’t he still in trouble for the laptop issue?
If he is, then Brantley is the future. That means we should move to a system that accounts for a drop-off in mobility – one closer to pro style. That way, Tebow gets to play QB in the NFL, and we’re ready to have Brantley take over.
And why is Tebow too big? Of the four starting quarterbacks playing tomorrow, he weighs less than McNabb and Roethlisberger, and is almost the same as Flacco. He’s an inch taller than Warner or McNabb, and Roethlisberger is 6’5" and Flacco is 6’6" (bigger than I thought). He’s the perfect size for an NFL quarterback.
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
Tebow at UF
Tebow is at UF to play QB and win championships (something he has proven to be damn good at doing). It is not to adpat his skills to what the NFL experts think he should play in the NFL.
I don’t think you’ll see anything different next year from this past one.
But, if it could also help the team to move to an offense that relies less on a mobile QB...
why not? Would also be a recruiting tool: We’ll help you become a better NFL prospect if you help us.
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
But this regime has not shown a willingness to adapt its offense
Don’t you remember Leak helplessly trying to run the option?
This version of the spread offense relies on a mobile QB. That’s why Tebow works so well in it. I don’t think you’ll see our coaches change it when they still have Tebow next season.
Ummm...
They adapted eventually and you could argue that they learned their lesson from trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Remember Billy Latsko and the TE play?
Also:
http://www.gatorzone.com/story.php?id=15073
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
Eventually?
When? In the National Championship Game? Perhaps that was just OSU not being able to cover us. All the other games, our offense looked like it was in bad need of a tune up. Defense won that championship. Period.
Oh.
I’m talking about personel and scheme, not necessarily execution and performance/production. They tried to run the offense they had at Utah with Leak and the rest of the Zook guys, but realized that it wasn’t going to work and adapted to the roster. They didn’t ditch the offense completely, but they adapted it enough.
I think we’ll see some two back sets with Moody and Demps/Rainey next season. That would let them incorporate a bit of triple option, use the speed guys as extra receivers and Emanuel to block on pass plays, etc. I’d imagine the base offense will be 3 WR, 1 TE and 1 RB, though. I seriously doubt they’ll do any pro-style stuff.
I hope you are right
But I didn’t see any difference between the Leak-run offense and the Tebow-run offense except that Tebow is a much better fit for that style. You know, I don’t think we ran a single play from under center this season (other than victory formation of course)
Supposedly, Tebow's run 17 plays from under center while at UF.
Don’t know if that includes V plays or sneaks.
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
If that includes victory formation - I would have thought it would be higher.
We always run the QB sneak out of the shotgun. It kind of bothers me because you need to run 5-6 yards on a sneak to get a first down on 4th and 1. It usually works though, so I can’t complain too much.
Here's a link to the 17 plays under center claim
Since it says he handed it off 16 times, we’ll assume that they don’t include victory formation. I thought I remembered a play or 2 from under center in the Hawaii game, but I was also a little toasty by then….
But, can we assume that he wouldn't be able to?
And you have to take into account that he was the running back in 07, and in 08 all he had to do was hand it off ‘cause the backs were so damn good. If we had a moderation, it’d be different. And who’s to say that he won’t bring the spread to the NFL like Unitas brought the forward pass?
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
The spread won't work in the NFL
the defenses are too good – the corners can cover the WRs better than collge.
But, can the nickel or dime corners cover the fifth string receiver?
There are a lot more great WR’s coming up that CB, and that could lead to some pretty damn good receivers being saved for 5 receiver sets.
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
They can when....
…they only have to cover them for 1.2 seconds – which is how long the QB would have to get rid of the ball before he gets crushed. Most college DBs can’t jam WRs at the line or they’ll get toasted. In the NFL, they can do that and screw up the timing routes that the spread is rooted in.
True.
But, with a mobile, big, quarterback, he’d have a LOT more time. And the timing routes could easily be replaced.
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
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