Victory By Cruise Control
by mlmintampa on Nov 7, 2009 10:54 PM EST
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There isn't much to say new about the Gators' 27-3 win over Vanderbilt. It was clearly a low-key Gators team with low-key fans perfectly willing to hit cruise control for a night. Against a better team, nine penalties and allowing 7-16 on 3rd down conversions would have been a death sentence. But against Vandy, it is a 24 point win.
Tim Tebow is still holding the ball too long and carrying the ball too much (16 of 37 carries). But our boy was 18-23 throwing for 227. Not Colt McCoy numbers, but efficient.
Also with Tebow, here is his Bible verse, Colossians 3:25;
But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.
Apparently, it was 3:23 not 3:25. I was probably over excited that Tebow had picked an obscure verse.
I'm guessing this has something to do with the week Florida has had, but I haven't had to do Bible intrepretations since high school.
With Alabama clinching the West, there is now a clear path to the Atlanta Death Match and the National Semifinal, SEC Region. That's the most important thing to take away from this weekend.
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Pretty boring game
Seeing Percy Harvin was nice, to represent, even though hes had a tough NFL season getting banged up a few times he still chose to see a Vandy game. I would of passed if I was him. I think he gave Demps and Moody some motivation, by seeing him on the sideline.
Tim Tebow is still holding the ball too long and carrying the ball too much (16 of 37 carries). But our boy was 18-23 throwing for 227. Not Colt McCoy numbers, but efficient.
I agree, I noticed his high completion rate, and high QB rating. It made me realize Tebow got those numbers so high because he is so picky with the ball, unless the game is on the line, he isnt going to throw it up there unless the guys open. So I am getting a lil tired of him getting sacked, and he needs to learn to throw it away. But I would rather him take a sack or scramble for a few yards then make a big mistake to cost a game. Once the games on the line, and he has to get rid of the ball I am confident he will, like he did in the final drives at Arkansas.
Easy cruising….
by Hook85 on Nov 7, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yeah - 2 reasons.
1) he takes 10 yard sacks instead of throwing the ball away
2) most of his passes trave about 4 yards in the air.
He is playing waaaaay too tight back there….but can you blame him? Cooper drops every third ball thrown to him.
by skigator93 on Nov 8, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Throw the ball OB!!
Since Spurrier arrived, Florida QBs have thrown the ball away knowing that, by doing so, they live to make the firstdown soon thereafter. Spurrier saw throwing the ball away as an acceptable option.
by 1974gator on Nov 8, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
good point
but you should know Tebows competiveness and he wants to make every play work, and sometimes he is able to scramble and pick up those much needed yards, so to ask him to throw it away is to ask him to take away one of his best attributes, scrambling.
by Hook85 on Nov 9, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
re: teboe
no one was complaining when TT scrambled for that first down vs UT and made half of their D look stupid. when is UF fan gonna realize that TT is a winner and he will do what it takes to win. UF fan needs to leave the coaching to UM and just enjoy the VICTORIES! this is a special time in our history. when Timmie has to make a play, he will. so just sit back and enjoy the ride UF fan, leave the play calling and play making up to the guys on the field.
by pLANEolG8RB8 on Nov 9, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Spikes
Dude looks, roughly, 30 years younger without the Waterworld beard.
by falcontom on Nov 7, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yea thats too bad
he lost some intimidation think, I am sure he didnt want to keep the thug look after all the drama, he needed that clean baby face look. WIth the hat on you couldnt see his dreads, and his baby face I barely recognized him.
by Hook85 on Nov 7, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Awe, isn't he just the cutest thing?
I’d rather see him with a baby face than a smashed face. His helmet will strap on properly now, and he won’t have the same close calls he had against Georgia. The guy could have gotten seriously hurt.
by squinky86 on Nov 7, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why are you even commenting here
This has nothing to do with Bama…go away.
You should be more worried about your lucky call that may have costed LSU the win.
by Hook85 on Nov 7, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No one’s talking about Bama here…
I really think it’s a good look (and also is physically beneficial) for Spikes. He still looks tough. “Baby face” is hardly a way to describe him.
How you look has very little to do with the intimidation factor; Spikes’ stats speak for themselves.
If you look at my comments in other threads, you’ll see I’ve defended Florida more often than not, especially with the SEC fine.
by squinky86 on Nov 9, 2009 2:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok listen up
Awe, isn’t he just the cutest thing?
This is a troll comment, it is not funny, it is not informative, it is not sarcasim. What is the point of this comment? Is it to insult me, are you implying that I think he is cute? thats what it looks like to me.
Do you honestly think I believe he has a baby face? Its called exaggerating.
How you look has very little to do with the intimidation factor;
really? and you would know, right?
The last thing Gator fans were worried about was Brandon Spikes beard being too long to strap his chinstrap correctly… So why the hell are you worried about it? You have plenty to worry about with your own team. Brandon Spikes will be fine, trust me you will see very soon.
by Hook85 on Nov 9, 2009 3:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So you can exaggerate and I can’t? You were the one that originally brought up the “baby face” comment.
And yes,there were some Florida fans who were livid at the close call when Spikes helmet popped off and he came inches away from a head-on-head collision with Georgia.
Are there no Florida fans that agree with me that Spikes loses no intimidation value by shaving?
by squinky86 on Nov 9, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea squinky
we had a good game, we have enough to talk about at RBR. just keep the a-hole comments to yourself. Geesh. I apologize.
by tidefanstuckatlsu on Nov 8, 2009 8:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Colossians 3:25 would have been ironic and all . . .
but it was 3:23 I believe: “And whatever you do, do it heartily, as to the Lord and not to men.”
by mtri on Nov 8, 2009 12:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tebow holding the ball too long
This is a discussion that someone needs to have with our QB. God forbid that Loeffler or Addazio does! Tebow doesn’t need to have the game on the line to chunk the ball OB. Wuerffel did it all the time. It’s a matter of having 5-10 less yards to deal with, for the first down, on the next play. I believe it has been a major, contributing factor to our terrible, TD in the Red Zone, scoring percentages this season.
AND btw, what has Loeffler been doing to improve Tebow’s technique? Nothing? His long wind-up is scary to watch in slo-mo. Mark my words, there will be another fumble or two caused by DL rushers swatting at the ball between now and the bowl game.
by 1974gator on Nov 8, 2009 12:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think Loeffler’s impact is more on Brantley than Tebow. Brantley is teachable, while Tebow will do things his way because he only trusts himself.
mlmintampa
UF C/O 06
by mlmintampa on Nov 8, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brantleys
mechanics are straight out of the book. He will be hard to fit in this offense though, Meyer will have to do another Leak change.
Considering Tebow is the most effecient passer in SEC history, Some times I wish he would throw it away, but hes not making a lot of mistakes that costs us the game. The Miss State game, he tried to get rid of it, and look how that turned out.
by Hook85 on Nov 8, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The offense never changes. The play calling does.
mlmintampa
UF C/O 06
by mlmintampa on Nov 8, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you know what I am
talking about, when I say Leak change, clearly he still going to run the spread.
by Hook85 on Nov 8, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
change?
There were no changes with Leak – it was the exact same offense, only Leak was a terrible fit for it, so we struggled mightily on offense and had to win it with defense.
by skigator93 on Nov 8, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
good lord, Meyer openly said he tweaded his spread offense for Chris Leak…Maybe you disagree with him, nut after he made the tweaks they started playing a lot better in my opinion.
by Hook85 on Nov 8, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd wager
the offense looks more like Utah 2004 next year than the UF 2006 version.
Brantley is a better thrower than Leak, he’s bigger and more willing to run out of the option, and he’s had more time to learn the offense.
It’s going to be Alex Smith 2.0—I, for one, am excited.
by wangalusa on Nov 9, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
'in the Miss State game, he tried to get rid of it, and look how that turned out'
Don’t think he was trying to throw OB on those interceptions, he was forcing the ball into double or triple coverage on the first one and had his hand slapped on the second.
by 1974gator on Nov 8, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didnt say he tried to throw it out of bounds...
I said get rid of it,
The game before against arky he was sacked 6 times, Meyer actually said he thinks it had somthing to do with Tebow holding onto the ball. The very next game Tebow made some ill advised throws, “gettting rid of it”, and we know how that turned out. After that game Meyer responded by saying it was his fault for putting Tebow in that situation. The play his hand was slapped was on thier own 2-3 yard line, its fair to say Tebow may normally have been more carefull with the ball considering his standards.
put 2 and 2 together and you can speculate that Meyer told him not to hold onto the ball for so long, and I imagine Tebow would not have normally made those throws.
by Hook85 on Nov 8, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Loeffler for Brantley?
What was all the hype about Loeffler and Tebow working together to help him be a better pro?
by 1974gator on Nov 8, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was exactly that; hype. You’ll remember that when Brantley wins a Heisman as a senior and throws 17 touchdowns to Debose.
mlmintampa
UF C/O 06
by mlmintampa on Nov 9, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
good prediction, it would be sweet if he did. Maybe debose could win it this time, I honestly think harvin got screwed out of the Heismen talk. he wouldnt of won because he was injured so much, but Tebow stole all his thunder.
by Hook85 on Nov 9, 2009 1:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1974gator is really an f$u grad
why are you coming on here stirring the pot? f$u sites dead? that’s what i thought!
you need to worry about your QB who was injured Sat. night after throwing himself in front of that truck in the 4th qtr after throwing his 5th pick. i heard on espnu that ponder was in competion with f$u’s mike backer for most tackles on the team after saturdays game vs clemson. he had a chance to make history with the most tackles by a QB in one game but couldn’t get back on the field for f$u’s final drive. i hear f$u fan is mad cause he isn’t listed on any one’s he15man watch. GO GATORS
by pLANEolG8RB8 on Nov 9, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've resisted the urge to post on this game.
I’m growing tired of ranting, so I’ll keep this short.
Honestly, does Steve Addazio know how to count? He’s clearly scared of misdirection, which normally is fine because we can play straight up and crush most teams. However, if you’re going telegraph every play (Vandy said after the game that they knew exactly what was coming as soon as UF lined up), then you have to own it. We go five wide — obviously passing — and expect our 5 OL to somehow block 6 rushers. They aren’t even Texas Tech style quick slants etc, they’re down field plays when the defense rushes more players than we have blockers. OVER AND OVER AGAIN. We telegraph run plays, Vandy loads the box, and we get stuffed. Prime example is the 4th down play at the end of the game. 5 blockers vs. 7 in the box, hmmm I wonder what the **** is going to happen?
The man is a moron. I can no longer restrict my criticisms to his playcalling ability. The idiot doesn’t know how to count.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 8, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Tebow said after the game
that “we took what the defense gave us.” (paraphrased)
Our offense has been reduced to taking what VANDY gives them.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 8, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As opposed to GT
who bent Vandy’s D over a friggin barrel and took what they wanted.
I’ll stop now.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 8, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm waiting one more week to give up on SA.
I’ve been telling myself (and I fully realize this may be wishful thinking) that we were just playing it close to the vest against a hopelessly outmatched Vandy team. This has been our MO for most of the season, and will continue to be when we play teams that can neither score much on us, or stop our offense even when it’s sputtering along in 1st gear (this will be the plan against a Ponder-less FSU and FIU).
This week @ USC, though, will be a test. A good defense in a fired-up stadium, and some creative playcalling (!) by Spurrier will mean we’ll be forced to open things up a bit, and I’ll be interested to see what happens.
If we look like we did against UGA, I’ll feel comfortable heading into the stretch run. If we look like we did against MSU or Vandy, I’ll be worried, not least of which because we’ll head out of Columbia with a loss.
by wangalusa on Nov 9, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didnt know they said that
but I am not suprised, even me, a non professional constantly reads what play they will run. I can only imagine what a DC is thinking.
Also the first TD, a 4th and 1. EVERYONE thought it was going to be the typical Tebow up the middle, like they tried earlier in the game on 3rd and 1. Instead they ran a option to the right to Demps…DEMPS RAN IN UNTOUCHED.
or Against miss state they ran an I formation and Demps ran in untouched.
So its clear that teams are not going to let Tebow run up the middle everytime anymore. In 2008, we had Percy Harvin to take the load off of him, Steve needs to figure out this teams “Percy Harvin”.
by Hook85 on Nov 8, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's not go overboard...
As far as Vandy players knowing what was coming, I don’t doubt it: I knew too, and it WAS frustrating. The one clear thing I took from this game (besides the fact hammered home once again that this IS the best damn defense in the land) was that the offense went back to being thoroughly predictable. I have to assume the coaches saw that, maybe even weren’t that concerned; as G. Catfish points out, they didn’t even try to run the kinds of plays off those formations that would have fooled anyone. Here’s hoping they’re saving that for later, when they need it—or at least they add it, after this!
For the most part, though, I liked and agreed with your overall take , mlm. Bottom line is winning, getting out healthy and moving on. As has been noted, as long as he’s not NEEDED to sling the ball around, TT seems content to hold it longer (yes, sometimes TOO long), then run rather than throwing long. With all the dropped balls and tipped-for-interceptions in earlier games, I think he’s on the same page as the head coach: eat it and let our defense get it back in decent shape. Now, I’m not convinced a team can just “flick the switch on” if and when that becomes necessary, and that’s MY fear. That, the points we’re leaving on the field, and all the fear we’re NOT stirring in the hearts of future opponents is a concern. Still, if we CAN “save the best” for when we need it, that’ll work too.
Above all, I’m with those who remind us that these are the good times. We’re 9 – 0 and all our collective dreams are still in front of us. The same thing that frustrates us, that we have such talent and it hasn’t come together yet, also means that the potential still is there. Here’s hoping our world class staff and all that world class talent together can eventually create a “masterpiece”. As fans, our job I guess is to support them, as a team.
by texgator on Nov 8, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
why does margin of victory mean so much to gator fans
either UM is stupid and UF fan is genious, or is it UF fan stupid and UM genious? some how UM has won 2 NC’s in 4 years. he has recruited so well that other coaches are telling recruits that they will not play at UF til their jr year. of course, this only insures that we get the best most competitive players in the country. to hear UF fan we are losers because our QB holds the ball too long. I guess when we lost harvin, murphy, our best blocking RB, 2 bookend offensive tackles, carl moore and andre dubose for the season due to injury,and our long time offensive coordinator, UF fan figured that things would go on “Business as Usual”. STOP WHINING and enjoy the VICTORIES. gheez
by pLANEolG8RB8 on Nov 9, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
relax man,
Its ok to critisice a team you like, its called constructive crisism. You come in here all high and mighty like everything you say is facts and what everyone else says is hog wash. everyone has an opinion, if you want others to listen to yours, try listening to others.
by Hook85 on Nov 11, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry hook85 for being over zealous with the stupid/genious remarks, i was out of line
and for seeming to act high and mighty to you, UF fan is complaining an awful lot about an offense that had to replace about 60+% of its big play capabilities, 2 bookend offensive tackles, (Trautwien was a sixth year senior with 1 medical redshirt season) plus our OC is now coaching at MSU. I’m not trying to act high and mighty here but i will bet that next year, after this season’s mass defensive exodus to the NFL, the same fans who are calling for addazio’s head will be all over charlie strong expecting this years performance out of a bunch of newcomers next season. If my expecting Gator Nation to get together and back our players and coaches in a season where we are 9-0 and ranked #1 is too much to ask, again, i apologize. God Bless
by pLANEolG8RB8 on Nov 12, 2009 1:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No problem
Most of things you mention has been discussed a million times on here, we are just being picky, well I wasnt…but I can see why some people are mad at our crappy OC. anyways come back for more…
by Hook85 on Nov 12, 2009 6:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Preach, brother
Yeah, that cuts to the heart of the matter. 2nd-to-last sentence sums things up nicely. We’re ALL “UF fan”, and we ARE pretty stupid sometimes. Easy to lose sight of the big picture.
SMACK! Thanks. I needed that.
by texgator on Nov 9, 2009 9:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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