We Almost Died Tonight (Updated With An Urban Quote)
It doesn't matter that Florida defeated Kentucky 41-7 because our quarterback was motionless on the ground for about three minutes. The hit on Tim Tebow was clean (the UK player did not lead with the crown of the helmet), and it was the impact of the back of Tebow's head on Marcus Gilbert's knee (who was doing nothing wrong), that caused all of us to wonder if God would kill Tebow in game four of his senior season. While Tebow was helped to his feet, and was aware enough to throw up in a garbage bag, you cannot function like a human for a few days after type of blow.
The football side wonders if Tebow will be back for LSU. The realistic side hopes that someone is smart enough to put Tebow through tests and machines to make sure he isn't seriously injured. Remember, last week Tebow used his head to smash Eric Berry. Those hits build up and one punch can be lights out. It makes me sick to think about this, but this is the business we have chosen and we have to worry about this stuff.
Whatever illness is floating around the Gators seemed to impact different guys in different ways. Florida's defense (with The Major, Haden and Spikes impacted by illness or injury) actually looked better than against Tennessee, while Riley Cooper was a step slower. Add that to Urban Meyer looking like he was freezing on a night it was in the high 60s in Lexington. Meyer looked sick before Tebow was knocked out. Offensively, UF was able to keep the ball on the ground (363 yards), but relied far too much on Tebow (16 attempts for 123 yards and 2 TDs). Even if Tebow wasn't hurt, UF has to trust other guys to get hard yards. I know Tebow had most of his yards on option reads, but you'd think at this point UF would know that you have to pull the reins on him sometimes. If Tebow is able to return this season, they will definitely have to do that. UF still has no passing game, which is kind of a big deal.
Praise Jesus, because there is a bye week before LSU. But it is entirely possible Tebow is unavailable for that game and a few more after that. He is still alive and he is still our quarterback, but the second part is now in doubt.
[UPDATE 10:12] Postgame presser with UAA spokesman Steve Babik and Urban Meyer reveals nothing about Tebow's health. Goddamnit UAA, enough of the Baghdad Bob routines and get us some information.
[UPDATE 10:19] Mike Pouncey said Tebow's eyes rolled back in his head. This actually makes me feel better, because at least I can look at this like a boxer getting hit with a perfect punch.
[UPDATE 10:35] If you assume Tebow lost consciousness and that his vomiting was due to the hit, you can assume Tebow has a Grade III concussion. That means he could be out for at least the LSU game, if not longer. Here are some guidelines for a return from a Grade III concussion;
Orthopedics.About.com : The athlete is removed from competition and transported to the emergency department. Length of time out of competition can be discussed with the physician. All patients who sustain a concussion must not return to play until cleared by someone trained in management of these injuries (e.g. the team physician). Foremost, any athlete should not return to play until all symptoms have resolved. Even a mild headache should exclude a player from returning to competition.
Neurosurgery Today : Grade III concussions involve posttraumatic amnesia for more than 24 hours or unconsciousness for more than five minutes. Players who sustain this grade of brain injury should be sidelined for at least one month, after which they can return to play if they are asymptomatic for one week.
It may be a long time before we see Tim Tebow back on the field. You better get used to the idea of Johnny Brantley facing LSU, Arkansas, Mississippi State and Georgia.
[UPDATE 11:15] From Urban, via Mark Schlabach's gamer;
"We're going to find out more about Tim. We believe it is a concussion. He got hit pretty good, but that's one tough cat. Our team will pray for him and he'll be fine," coach Urban Meyer said during his postgame press conference. Tebow will be held at the hospital overnight for observation.
We won't add anything else unless we get actual specifics on Tebow's status. In the meantime, if you're insane and pray to Saints for various things (like me), here is St. Sebastian's prayer for athletes, prayer of St. Augustine (namesake of UF's Catholic Student Church), and prayer to St. Anthony (which is a good catch-all prayer). Try to sleep tonight, even if your stomach is in knots.
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Virginia Tech fan here
Saw the hit, nice and clean but I hate seeing any player go down, especially a guy of Tebow’s quality. Hope he recovers, quickly. Best of luck to you guys.
by VT89 on Sep 26, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank God he got up
Honestly at that momeny I could care less about the Gators futre, I was just thinking about the person Tim Tebow, and worried for his future. I am glad he got up, all I could think about is those terrible fans out there who always mention they wish Tebow would get badly hurt, wich is pretty sad to wish on any one. Hopefully its just a nothing major, maybe a light concusion, just as long as hes ok.
Why the hell do they run the ball with him 17 times agaisnt kentucky? I undertsand thats part of the threat of floridas offense, but every other RB was averaging over 8 YAC. Imagine how well he would run if everyone wasnt expecting it every other down.
Everybody knew somthing like this would happen, even though this wasnt from him running into someone, and it was probly the freak accident of his head hitting the players knee that caused the trauma, but like the article said this just adds to all the other billions hard hit hes had to take.
by Hook85 on Sep 26, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"assume"
That’s a few assumptions you are making. Especially when it comes to amateur diagnoses.
by falcontom on Sep 26, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope my assumptions are wrong.
mlmintampa
UF C/O 06
by mlmintampa on Sep 26, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can honestly say that I think Urban only cares about winning and less about the health of his players.
Why, oh, why would Tebow be in the game on a passing attempt given his reported condition before the game? The game was well in hand and UK offered no legit threat.
Gentleman only, Ladies forbidden.
by brandonh on Sep 26, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The flu didnt cause him to get rocked and fall in a freak accident against another players knee.
by Hook85 on Sep 26, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His presence in the game did…which goes back to Meyer’s decision to keep him in.
Gentleman only, Ladies forbidden.
by brandonh on Sep 26, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You cant blame a coach for that happening
It was pretty clear Tebow was healthy enough to play and protect himeself. Claiming Urban Meyer chose winning over his players health is just crap. Did you see him play, were you saying to yourself…man tebow shouldnt be playing right now becuase he is too sick, I know most people wasnt.
Its just bad timing.
by Hook85 on Sep 26, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im sure many people will be saying the same thing
? no where does it say Urban Meyer cares more about winning then the health of his players…except for you.
I could understand if it was obvious and Tebow was looking spacey all night long and kept doing uncharistic things, but he was playing a good game and any qb would gotten slammed on that play sick or not.
Im sorry im not going to blam meyer for somthing liek that, and i am sure tebow wont either.
by Hook85 on Sep 26, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tebow was removed at the end of the 3rd quarter in last year’s game, which was even more out of hand. Tebow was on pace to be removed at the same time as in 2008.
mlmintampa
UF C/O 06
by mlmintampa on Sep 26, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Urban never takes Tebow out that early in SEC play,
nor should he have taken him out yesterday. Despite the first quarter, the passing game was still stagnant, as it has been all year. To me, the playcalling indicated that the coaches were trying to work out the kinks in the passing game before they took Tebow out at the end of the third. This is completely legitimate coaching.
Also, a 3 possession game in conference play on the road has never been enough for most coaches to take out their quarterback in the third quarter.
It always bothers me when announcers or fans call for a star athlete to be pulled ridiculously early in a game. They’re called freak accidents for a reason—you don’t protect against them by refusing to allow your players to play the game.
Here’s hoping Tim takes all the time his body needs to get healthy and doesn’t find a doctor who will clear him to come back too early. And here’s hoping Urban makes sure that happens.
by Gator Cub on Sep 27, 2009 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great question
Urban does not care for his players’ health, as evidenced by him playing Demps against UT. He ADMITTED after the game that some of the kids “probably shouldn’t have played.”
So he keeps Tebow in the game, chucking passes to run up the score and feed his huge ego.
I think Tebow is a great person for his work in communities around the world, and a great football player for his exploits on the field.
But up 34-7, game wasn’t in doubt after the 1st quarter, and Urban is calling passing plays to embarrass the other team.
Football-wise, there is a problem with the left side of the Gators’ OL.
Tebow paid for all the above last night, and our prayers are with him.
Ball, oskie, cover, block, cut and slice, pursue and gang tackle... for this is the WINNING EDGE.
by pound the rock on Sep 27, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just shut up
Stop using Tebows injury to come in here and troll, a great person was injured and is the only concearn for the gators and thier fans is his health, we are not interested in starting drama about Meyer.
by Hook85 on Sep 27, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Left side of the OL??
Nobody got beat on this play. Kentucky simply sent 2 linebackers on a blitz, and Florida was in 5 wide. There were only 5 Florida players to block 6 Kentucky players, so one of them was bound to get through.
by tbcook on Sep 28, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I call BULLSHIT. If Meyer only cared about winning as you and some of these others attacking his decisions assert, would he have stayed in Lexington with Tim while he was in the hospital?
by O-town Gator on Sep 28, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
? I dont think he was unconcious for five minutes
maybe im wrong but it seemed closer to 2-3 minutes he was down, and nausea is a common cause of any major head trauma, but it could easily be a light concusion just as well. There is nothing you saw to be able to support your desicion, either way I dont care really, as long as he is able to eventually recover 100%.
fire fighter, i know enough to know that you cant form a correct opinion over the facts you are limited too.
by Hook85 on Sep 26, 2009 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Bad Concussion"
is the word now. In that case, I agree with MLM: Tebow should stay out until he is completely healthy, no matter how many weeks that takes. The brain is not something you should mess with.
by Gator Cub on Sep 27, 2009 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, Urban will put his hand on Tebow's shoulder
and say “We need you, big boy. You’re ready to go for me, right?”
Despicable behavior from a win-at-all-costs coach.
Ball, oskie, cover, block, cut and slice, pursue and gang tackle... for this is the WINNING EDGE.
by pound the rock on Sep 27, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't know what Urban has done to make you think
he’ll play with his player’s brain like that. A consensus seems to be forming that Meyer will let Tebow make an emotional decision in two weeks whether he’s ready to play, but I have to think that Meyer will make a rational decision based on the advice of doctors. If team doctors tell him Tebow can go, he won’t stop him. But if doctors say Tebow should rest, I can’t imagine Meyer encouraging him to muscle through.
I may be way off base, but I just don’t know where everyone is getting the idea that Meyer would do this from.
by Gator Cub on Sep 27, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LSU guy here...
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4505534
“Meyer said earlier in the week there was no chance he would rest sick players.”
“That’d be one of the major errors in coaching history to go do that, because you’d go lose,” he said. “No. Absolutely not. We’re going to bring everything and go as hard as we can. That gets you out of the profession, those kind of thoughts. You go as hard as you can.”
That in a nutshell says that Meyer is more concerned with winning than with the health of his players.
It’s incredibly unfortunate that this happened to Tebow. While I thoroughly despise him as a player, and the gators as a whole, I would never wish this upon anyone. It’s sad that this happened and we may not face him in Death Valley.
Meyer needs to take a good long look in the mirror and understand why he is in the position he is in, his players. They’re the ones that go out and earn his multimillion dollar salary, with their blood, not his.
Best wishes to gator nation.
by Rogerssp05 on Sep 27, 2009 12:58 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Two things
1 – I don’t think he’s ever played people who were too sick to play. And even the players who were puking before the game were playing pretty well. I don’t understand why playing them makes Urban more concerned with winning than the health of his players, unless he is putting the health of his players in danger by playing them. And that certainly didn’t appear to be the case.
2 – Also, again: Tebow’s illness had nothing to do with that freak injury. Correlation does not imply causation.
by Gator Cub on Sep 27, 2009 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meyer admitted as much after the UT game
He will run these players into the ground if it means one more week at the top of the polls.
Ball, oskie, cover, block, cut and slice, pursue and gang tackle... for this is the WINNING EDGE.
by pound the rock on Sep 27, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But when
has he played players to the point they would hurt themselves by playing?
by Gator Cub on Sep 27, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They had the sniffles
They are D1 college football players. It isn’t like they are going to aggravate flu-like symptoms by letting them play in a football game. We obviously need WRs in the worst way. Did you see Meyer coax Dubose into trying to play through his injury and forego surgery? Do you see Meyer rushing Carl Moore into action with a sore back? Do you see Meyer rushing Deonte Thompson back onto the field.
No – you do not. Those players have injuries – and those injuries can become worse if they play, so they do not play. Have you ever gone to work or school when you were sick? Yes, you don’t feel great, but can make it through your day.
Fortunately, we were able to beat UT and UK with a bunch of sick players. Hopefully everyone will be well when we play tougher teams.
PTR – feel free to keep hanging around here and lamenting over everything the Gators do. Obviously, like your incompetant coach, you are obsessed with the Gators. I guess it’s envy. As I drove to Lexington on Friday and was passing through Tennessee everyone on the call in sports show wanted to talk about the Gators. The game was over nearly a week and UT had another game Saturday, yet they were all still talking about the Gators. I guess it’s because Kiffin knows it is the only way to get an irrelevent team in the news. I guess the team was still focused on the Gators too and UT almost lost to Ohio.
by skigator93 on Sep 27, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats stupid anology
If im sick, i want to play myself, that doesnt mean i care more about playing then my own health. it just means i think i can tough it out, and i dont think im too sick to be able to play at the level people expect me too. same thing with Meyer.
by Hook85 on Sep 27, 2009 1:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LSU
I think Tebow will be back for the LSU game. We are fortunate to have a BYE week up next. I think we can beat LSU with Brantley. We don’t need to score too many points to win games – we can rely on the defense.
by skigator93 on Sep 27, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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