Wanted: Information on these guys.
by benzduck on Jan 27, 2010 11:02 PM EST
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The 1929 Florida Gators, via www.secsportsfan.com
I'm an author in Oregon and have lately been documenting forgotten or unknown eras of Oregon athletics on your sister sbnation site, Addicted To Quack. I'm digging into Oregon pre-history lately, and am looking for any information (clippings, references, photos, comments, etc) on your 1929 Gators team.
Specifically, I'm interested in what led up to the season-ending Oregon vs Florida game on 12/7/29 in Miami, the joint private-car train trip for both teams from Jacksonville to Miami, and any "whatever happened to" details of players like Charlie Crabtree, Red McEwen and Homer Seay.
It's an interesting story from several angles. This was the first, and so far the only, time the schools have met on the field. The stadium promised by Miami promoters of the game didn't even see construction begin until August or September, because apparently nobody wanted it in their back yard. The "Webfoots" took a 3700 mile, 14-day train trip from Portland to Miami via Los Angeles, New Orleans, and Atlanta, playing two games on the way. And as far as I know, this was the first time a team from the west coast played a current SEC team (still a rare occasion).
The game was a Big Deal in Miami; it may have been the first major college game ever played there, and sparked interest in what would eventually become the Orange Bowl.
Any help will be greatly appreciated and fully attributed.
Thanks in advance. Maybe we'll see you in Glendale next year, for the second Oregon-Florida game..
Please be kind and use good grammar.
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The 1929 Gators finished 8-2, losing to Georgia Tech and Harvard. On December 7, the defeated Oregon in Miami, 20-6. That season, UF only played two games in Gainesville. They were coached by Charlie Bachman, who was 27-18-3 in five seasons at UF. His eight wins in 1928 (8-1) and ’29 were his best seasons at UF.
I would have to spend more time on it, but not a lot was written about the late 1920s-early 30s teams. Florida’s Great Depression began in about 1927 and the University almost did not survive the Depression and World War II.
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I’ve noticed there hasn’t been much written, which is kind of surprising considering the level of interest now. Near as I can tell, Florida didn’t even field a team until the mid-20s. (by comparison, Oregon’s been playing since 1897.)
And I’m really drawing a blank with the ‘29 Florida players. Crabtree played part of the 1930 season in the pros, he’s in the all-time databases, but he apparently disappeared off the planet after that.
I have learned a few things about early football rules. In the ‘29 game, every time Florida scored, they received the ensuing kickoff from Oregon. Wonder how many points you’d see in a game if your team never had to play defense?
everything is history, eventually.
Drawing a blank
I’m not surprised that there are not a lot of details available about that era in UF football. My dad was born in Newberry Fl. (just North of Gainesville) in 1929 and times were tough back then. Most locals survived on truck farming and cattle. A lot of the land was so poor you could not raise a ruckus on it with a quart of whiskey. I would be interested to hear more about that era myself.
I had no idea Oregon and Uf have only played once before
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miether did I but before we face off in Glenndale,
a top pac-10 team (USC in particular) has to go east coast against a top SEC team only to find themselves biting the dust and begging to go back and hide in the corner wishing they never heard of the pac-10
For Christmas I received a book on the Florida/Georgia rivalry
It gives a summary of most of the games including 1929 (UF won). Some of the names in my book are different than those mentioned above. Strange. I’ll either copy the info on the ‘29 game or just transcribe that game’s write up.
was it a “football vault”?
I got one of those for Oregon football for xmas. Interesting but not really accurate — all my book said about the Florida 29 game was that it took place in Gainesville.
everything is history, eventually.
It is a "football vault"
If it’s not very accurate, then I probably shouldn’t transcribe the info – especially if they don’t even have the correct names. No need to post potentially incorrect info.
I’m pretty sure the names were right — they were taken from Florida newspaper stories of the game.
Can’t be 100% certain of that though. One of the Miami News accounts talks about the performance of two players for Oregon who weren’t even on the trip let alone in the game — the star QB Kitzmiller (broken ankle) and tackle Austin Colbert (grades).
everything is history, eventually.
wait, I saw that book at Barnes and Noble
it was cool it had even replica stuff about that game even some tickets
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