Bobby Bowden's Retirement Gift
by mlmintampa on Jan 5, 2010 11:30 AM EST
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...is the NCAA taking away victories!
The NCAA Division I Infractions Appeals Committee has upheld the decision to penalize Florida State for academic cheating, meaning former football coach Bobby Bowden's record has been stripped of 14 victories.
The real tragedy in all of this is that nine other sports will lose victories, including a National Championship.
Although the school hasn't commented on what would be at stake, it should now have to vacate the 2007 men's outdoor track and field national championship and, in football, all seven wins from the 2007 season and, based on an analysis of documents obtained by the Times, and no more than five wins from the 2006 season.
Don't forget the value of small sports as football and basketball may pay the bills, but track and swimming also offer opportunities for a cheaper education and championships. FSU claims that they should get credit for working with the NCAA, forgetting that had FSU not asked students to cheat, they would not be in this situation. The headline will continue to be about Bobby Bowden and his victories. But don't forget about the athletes who were caught in the cross hairs and have had their academic reputations tarnished and their victories taken away.
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You should be thanking Bobby Bowden.
You’ll now know what it feels like to forge ahead with so much adversity and uncertainty. Additionally you will feel the pain from Saban AND a competent FSU program bearing down on you. Can you feel that? Its called immense pressure, to …….SURVIVE!
The tables are turning boys. The future looks good!
+1
First Elam, next it’s Brown. Then let THE COLLAPSE OF UF BEGIN!!!!!! The days of UF obliterating teams unchallenged are OVER.
Thanks for fitting the stereotype, boys.
You’re nothing more than a football team that treats other sports and academics as a side show. Sort of like your circus, but the circus gets better treatment than most of your academic units. Also, Elam is at FSU because he didn’t want to compete for a job in Gainesville. He said it himself. The Meyer leave of absence was an excuse.
mlmintampa
UF C/O 06
by mlmintampa on Jan 5, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
um...
didnt see him “say that himself” anywhere on that quote. he said “make a difference at FSU” meaning FSU is down and he can be someone that helps prop it back up. UF is already at the top so another top recruit wouldn’t “make a difference”, it would be life as usual. stop putting words in the dude’s mouth and grow up.
You clowns would know
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
Driver of the "Cut Reggie Nelson" Bandwagon.
That is exactly right mlm. just an excuse!
After seeing all the UF commits at the Under Armor game he decided that he would look elsewhere. I can’t say I blame him. This group of UF D-back commitments is by far the best in the country. I doubt Elam would start in front of any of those guys anyways.
by pLANEolG8RB8 on Jan 5, 2010 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
LOL you were so right.
I dont even think those FSU tards even read the Post. “oh were gonna be good again” chatter is funny. The entire post had nothing to do with the football team but actually says all FSU cares about is football. What do these goober heads come in here and talk about? How great they will be in football next season. Wich is pretty funny in its self, since there is no evidince at all that supports that theory. Oh they fired one of the best coaches of all time, You have a unproven head coach, who has been running the team behind the curtain for years any ways and not showing any signs of success. But that some how is a bright future?
"I meant to misspell that word, just observing who would correct me."
Nah FSU will stay at the bottom
Keep dreaming about beating UM and UF.
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"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
Driver of the "Cut Reggie Nelson" Bandwagon.
The future looks good?
Why exactly? You must have found a bottle of Ripple and an old Playboy. Make sure you go inside the trailer before indulging in any more fantasies. I’ll be waiting for the Gators to stomp a mudhole in the Noles again next year. It’s like tax time and fourth of July, it happens every year! I find comfort in tradition and the annual stomping of FSU is one of the most satisfying traditions I know of. The best thing you can do is dress the FSU girls up real pretty and pray for some Tebow genes. Go away now.
Hey, come on now renegator, take it easy on these poor lads.
You know the only time that these fsu jack arses can run their mouths is the 30 day period before national signing day because they know that will be the only month all year that they will have even the slightest amount of optimism for their free shoes future.
fsu really does need this Elam kid, I heard they were adding a new position to their offense just for him and they’re calling it the O-Safety. They are going to line Elam up 15 yds deep on every play like a punter would normally line up but behind the QB. They are doing this for two reasons.
First, they are ashamed that Ponder at one point in the 09 season was leading the fsu football team in tackles due to all the INT’s that he threw. I believe he set the all time record for tackles by a QB in the FBS during fsu’s 09 cam"pain" before his injury against ??? clemson.
Second reason for the O-Safety position was they need Elam to tackle the other teams players when fsu QB throws an INT. Even though the fsu staff was proud of Ponders’ tackles by QB record, the fsu staff realized they’d run out of QB’s due to injury without the O-Safety position.
Maybe they will get elam and he like reid can be the next group of fsu seniors to go 0-for against UF and win 50% of their games. The only reason elam is considering free shoes is because he knows that at UF he will be just another player but at free shoes he would be the big man on campus. go figure. do you want to play? or do you want to compete.
by pLANEolG8RB8 on Jan 5, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Why all the optimism?
It’s not like FSU’s recruiting has been down recently and just turned around. You’ve been getting top recruits already…..expecially those who are scared of a little competition (i.e. Elam and Reid). Maybe that’s why ’Noles always look better on paper than on the field. They like the accolades, but they just shy away when someone stands up to them.
Also, it’s not like Bobby has been doing any coaching. The only difference between next year and the past 5 is you’ll have a new DC. And I think Mickey Andrews did a pretty good job for the Noles during his stay.
you realize picture you have up, I dont even bother reading anything you have to say
Becuase I know it will be coming from a complete idiot!
"I meant to misspell that word, just observing who would correct me."
Thats a shame
Bobby doesnt deserve that. take the wins away from the school not the coach it wasnt his fault. he earned those wins his players didnt dont penalize him.
Lack of institutional control.
Maybe Bowden is getting screwed, since nine other coaches (like FSU Baseball’s Mike Martin) could have known. But they all should have known their players were being encouraged to cheat by the athletic department. The players don’t know NCAA rules for cheating, but the coaches should and stepped in.
mlmintampa
UF C/O 06
This kind of crap has been going on since Bobby has been at fsu.
this assylum has been run by the inmates for years. It’s rediculous to even get in a discussion with a bunch of criminoles about what Institutional Policies should be. It is plain to see that the only thing that fsu fan cares about is W’s and L’s. You can tell by their comments that they feel that they are above the law and should be left alone to do what ever they feel is right. “Piss on the government” they say. Well I say that taking a few “wins” away wasn’t nearly enough penalty. They’re lucky not to have lost a bunch of scholarships and the opportunity to play in the off-season which would have killed their consecutive bowl streak. Take a peek at these idiots blogs, you would think that these morons just won a National Title instead of going 6-6. Look at their treatment of Bobby and the way they are gloating and bragging about how they finally got rid of the second winningest coach in NCAA history who only had 1 year left on his contract. FSU fan clearly lives in a different space of reality than the rest of the world. So I say, just leave ‘em where they’re at. And remember this, never wear your best clothes to skin a skunk. GO GATORS
Isn't Dowling a JUCO lean?
I’m pretty sure one of your DB’s is. Remember Willie Downs? Great players aren’t always guaranteed to qualify. Is it Dowling or Dorsey that j-j-j—-just m-m-m-might not have the g-g-grades?Recruits look good, how many will qualify? If all qualify maybe you can push for Consensus all america freshman team or something ridiculous. Of couse, thats not the same as Consensus AA, IS IT?
Another ? for you fine gentlemen, who wont be in the league next year? From what i’ve seen you’re currently falling victim to your own success. UFaG may set a record this year in the draft. Oh, wait, that will DRASTICALLY change this team.
Also, do you believe its merely coincidental that you’ve enjoyed this run while we’ve had “internal issues”? Seriously, that would make you delusional with a false sense of entitlement. Your run is almost over, admit it, feel it, eat, LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!
Next up are the coaching changes, who have you managed to retain? Strong?Gonzales? your RB’s coach left, didn’t he? Who else jumped ship? Is Meyer coming back?
Gators, you are hilarious! I truly look forward to seeing the dumbfounded look on your faces after you realize that it happens to the best of us. Also, i believe one of you classy fellas made a reference to Tebow’s genes above. Thats a nice thought that brings two responses to mind;
1. I’d rather have a QB who can read a defense and doesn’t take 5 seconds to release the ball.
2. Wouldn’t Tebow have to like women for that to happen?
I bid you gents farewell, don’t say your pal Scalpemall didn’t warn ya.
please.....never refer "it happens to the best of us" to your sorry assed program.
And you of all people are making references to coaching changes? UF is losing coaches due to our success on and off the field. Free Shoes’ coaching changes are due to your lack of success! Where do you idiots go to get your replacements……Tennessee? I guess the loss of 14 games due to lack of institutional control wasn’t enough. You had to go to the dirtiest little “hoestess” house in the SEC and get one of their male strippers to start your new staff off right. Awesome new staff dude.
One more thing, if Dowling or any of the other UF commits has to go JUCO to make the grades required by UF, that will be OK with us. A kid named Reggie Nelson comes to mind that had to go that way and if I remember correctly he was still a force for his Soph and Jr years before he went to the NFL. We’ve only had one or two Freshman D-backs to start in the history of our program anyhow. Haden leaves us this year for the NFL and Jenkins is the other and he’ll be going pro after next season. Now go back to Warchant and enjoy discussing your top 25 recruiting class and male stripper coaching staff with the rest of the criminoles on that site and stop trolling over here with us winners
The Rise of FSU
You have piqued my interest Scalp dude, are you really the guy standing on the bridge with the banjo in “Deliverance”?
Wow, you've got me pegged!
Renegator you are so perceptive. I’m sure your kindergarten teacher tells you so on a regular basis. Its funny you should mention “Deliverance” (which i’ve never even seen). The last time i was passing through Gainesville I felt the white-trashy goodness exuding from every confused teenager rockin a camo hat to the side wearing the gold grills! Talk about a quagmire! I mean seriously, I got the distinct feeling that “Oh yeah, you’re my sister, you’re my sister” has been mumbled through Jim Beam breath more than once in your fine town.
I suspect that’s why UF’s FLAGSHIP campus is located there. Shoring-up the more un-educated, rural, Quite frankly backwards portions of the state is a priority! Particularly around infrastructure( 5 points for the first gator who can tell me how many syllables is in infrastructure).
Hook, sorry about the picture, oh wait, no, im not. Tebow has been a hateful individual toward FSU from day one. He couldn’t put his team in his little “Jesus saves” backpack against BAMA. For now, his tears shall sustain me. Arrivederci, boys!
you are a sad sad little man
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by silverstreak3k on Jan 7, 2010 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
Scalp
This is the last time I will ever respond to mindless B.S. poured out by anyone who has no interest in intelligent exchange on sports, life etc. I have great respect for the entire state of Florida including Tallahassee even though the city of my birth is Gainesville. I have had respect for Coach Bowden since he came to FSU and I have never taken cheap shots at him or his athletes despite the rivalry between schools. No one in his right mind could ever equate Tim Tebow with failure. In future exchanges, keep it civil and reasonable. It is possible to throw good natured barbs at at fans of rival schools without being trashy. I apologize for stooping to less than a civil level and it will not happen again. There is no need for it.
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