Florida Gators Sunday Notes
by mlmintampa on Oct 10, 2010 12:04 PM EDT
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- There are two talking points now in regards to how you feel about this team; the players suck or the coaches suck. We will continue with the idea that the coaches suck. The Gainesville Sun will continue with the players suck. There isn't really a right or wrong answer. The answer might be somewhere in-between. But I was happy to see the fans booing without mercy while the offense was on the field. Mediocrity will not be tolerated.
- Florida missed Jeff Demps something fierce. Good thing they opened up the offense by including Andre Debose. What? Debose only had one carry after his kickoff return touchdown? What does Debose have to do to get in the Urban Meyer Trust Tree, return two kicks? Keep booing fans, the coaching staff apparently can't hear you.
- ESPN's Joe Schad reported during the game that John Brantley had four cracked ribs and a broken bone in his thumb. Urban Meyer said after the game Brantley had damaged ribs and a sprained thumb. So if you were wondering what are the quickest ways to get banned on this website, they are using slurs and questioning Brantley's toughness.
- But as tough as Brantley might be, he apparently isn't tough enough to play quarterback near the goal line. The Gators had five snaps inside the five, four had Trey Burton at QB and Jordan Reed had the other. Our play calling inside the red zone is still a Goddamn mess.
- The Palm Beach Post talking points includes the Gators continuing problems not just with play calling, but getting the play in. There were three timeouts following first downs, not including the timeout following a holding call and 12 men in the huddle penalty. That was the drive when UF got inside the five yard line, but ended with a missed Chas Henry field goal. If you followed us on the twitter @AlligatorArmy, you would know that we hate timeouts after first downs. The old Urban Meyer would have killed Steve Addazio for not getting the play in.
- By the way, we went the entire post without mentioning blowing a fake field goal or the defense allowing a game winning touchdown. You know why? Because the Gators offense was far worse. If it wasn't for Jelani Jenkins' interception and Ahmad Black's fumble recovery on a punt, UF would have had zero points in the first half. Not to mention Emmanuel Moody giving LSU a field goal before the end of the half with his fumble. The defense did not play well, but they didn't lose the game.
- Also, don't get down on the team. Unless you're a season ticket holder and want to get rid of them. I'd like to get season tickets, so the more that are available, the better it is for me.
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Moody is horrible. Addazio is horrible.
Other than that, I can live with the problems they currently have.
The Once and Future King
by FlaGators on Oct 10, 2010 12:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I wont ever get down on the team,
unless they fire Addazio only to rehire [Name Redacted].
Until then, though, I’ll just continue to complain about the offensive coaching staff.
The poor kids. Debose will be lucky to even sniff the NFL at this rate, despite his talent.
"In case you're wondering what the offense should look like, that wasn't it." - Urban Meyer
Is t just me...
Or was this made harder after watching Spurrier getting a signature win with great play calling and getting the ball in the hands of his best playmakers? I (as of now) wouldn’t trade back for The Ole Ball Coach, but there’s something more comfortable about watching his play calling. As a long time Gator, it’s like putting on an old comfortable pair of shoes.
by gator'n'mempho on Oct 10, 2010 1:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
How can you be happy that the fans boo'd your offense without mercy?
And further, how can a TRUE FAN actually BOO THEIR TEAM???
I get what you’re saying with regards to showing that the fanbase is displeased with the coaching. However, booing your own TEAM while they are on the field sends the completely wrong message to the players. In the years of horrid coaching at FSU, I can’t remember a time when we actually boo’d our team. Just my 2 cents.
In the years of horrid coaching at FSU, I can’t remember a time when we actually boo’d our team.
That’s because in order for the fans to boo, there actually has to be some in attendance.
The Once and Future King
by FlaGators on Oct 10, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's not easy to do
But unless you are willing to accept 7-5 seasons (as FSU fans clearly were able to do, but most of us will not), you need to let the coaching staff know that they can’t take their fans and home field advantage for granted. Continuing to cheer for terrible calls that lose games is doing a disservice to the team.
Boo the terrible just like you cheer the spectacular.
Well I wasn't trying to stir the pot.
Just wanted to put in my 2 cents, which I did. I would take an empty stadium over a stadium full of fair weather fans that proudly boo my team when they take the field. I would guess John Brantley would agree with me. Good luck in the rest of the season gators, and we will see you in our house on Nov. 27’th.
Back away from the ledge...
I see the true colors of the UF faithful coming out! Band meet wagon….
by NoleSoulPole on Oct 10, 2010 4:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
A post that makes no sense. But since it comes from a Seminole fan, that is understandable.
The Once and Future King
That difficult to comprehend?
UF had a great run with arguably the best college football player to ever live. Now that he is gone, the finger pointing is in every direction. “the players suck, the coaches suck, we’re too young” or maybe it was simply the ugliest uniform ever created was the reason for the LSU loss. I don’t know. But what I do know is that UF is a top tiered program with loads of talent. Unfortunately, teams go thru growing pains when the best college player ever is gone. You can’t sustain national championship caliber seasons year in and year out without coming back to reality at least once. So instead of pointing the fingers, maybe the gators simply lost to better teams and were outplayed. And as hard as this is to say about les miles, were outcoached as well. Ouch.
by NoleSoulPole on Oct 10, 2010 7:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the last point you just made
is exactly why the boos came out. would you cheer for dive plays with your third string running back and a horrid offensive line? i cant wait to beat your ass in november
fsu is totally irrelevant in the world of football and basketball. we won’t let our programs stoop that low.
As if week 6 rankings mean something...
and the Gators wernt really expected to compete for a bcs title this season but even knowing that the Gators are always in the back of everyones mind these days whether it’s Tebow getting hazed, Demps being the fastest man in college, the baseball team making it deep into the college WS, Percy Harvins migraines, Noah telling it like it is in Chicago, Erin Andrews always looking good on ESPN or DWTS… I could go on all day.
What’s going on with the noles besides kicking one of the greatest college football coaches out of town? Who the he’ll knows, or cares?
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
Out coached, sure… Better players, no.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
by Hook85 on Oct 10, 2010 8:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yes
damn us for wanting better. what the hell is our problem?
by silverstreak3k on Oct 11, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
The players know it's not then that is getting Boo'd.
Remember they do actually go to school with a lot if the people in that crowd, and Gator nation has made it clear we are sick if Addazio’s pathetic play calling. It was so obvious that the play calling was being boo’d that the announcers picked it up… And if they got who we were boo’ing, you’d think you would of been able to figure that out.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
by Hook85 on Oct 10, 2010 4:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Dear Nole fan,
It’s called high expectations.
by gator'n'mempho on Oct 10, 2010 1:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
fsu is totally irrelevant in the football world… or any world for that matter. we won’t let our programs stoop that low
I'd say we're plenty more relevant
UF is still featured in national news and on ESPN much more than FSU (unless they’re reporting on your VERY lax admissions policies), and I’m sure it would be a bigger deal for many programs to beat UF versus beating FSU.
Not to mention, UF has won two of the past four national championships. Maybe when you add a trophy to your case with a date later than 1999 on it, your argument will make some sense.
http://www.firesteveaddazio.com/
I believe, that FSU’s last two trophies read “Gator Bowl” and “Champs Sports Bowl” and then the “Emerald Bowl”…that one is my favorite though, as they couldn’t afford to send the band.
The Once and Future King
When I lived in Tallahassee last year, I saw a kid in Publix wearing a Emerald Nuts Bowl tshirt. I was laughing so hard, I had to use the Entenmann’s display to keep from falling down.
mlmintampa
UF C/O 06
http://www.alligatorarmy.com
The scoreboard hides the fact that we had no business being in this game. 2 TD drives of under 20 yards and a kickoff return. Other than that, one solid drive. Maybe 2 or 3 plays that you can look at and say “hey, nice play!” You mentioned the time outs after big plays. Last night wasn’t the first time. It’s just unbelievable when you get a solid play, good run after catch, and the O-line is walking the 40 yards we just gained, the coaching staff is too busy high fiving or something to get the next play in, and the huddle finally forms with 9 seconds on the play clock. It’s called momentum and it is a real thing. It’s just so many things beyond the fact that so many 5 star recruits are either not living up to potential, or not being allowed to.
Ugh.
I am so tired of going into these games feeling like our talent has to overcome our coaching for us to have a chance. I’m with this bunch no matter what (I did not boo last night) but I’m finally coming around to the belief that we’re just SOL this year…
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I know you are light on the ban hammer...
BUT if things really start to turn for the worst for this team like the Zook days, and by some miracle FSU turns it around like the 90’s… I am sure those stupid Noles will get a lil cocky and decide to drop by here a little more often. If it gets to be so annoying like reading the comments on a yahoo sports page, the ban hammer hopefully will get used a little more freely, if you know what i mean.
I hate those idiots on yahoo sports cmnent sections, Its maddening if you actually try to read some of it.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
by Hook85 on Oct 10, 2010 4:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
FSU fans are welcome to visit as far as I'm concerned
As long as they have something substantive to add, I have no problem reading their posts. MKE Nole posted an intelligent comment up above stating his personal opinion on the booing at games. Nothing wrong with that.
I'm not implying his comments were trolling or dumb.
I’m just saying it’s funny how we lose 2 in a row and they are playing well and all of a sudden noles are joining in on the comments. Maybe it’s just a fluke but i have been to our rivals sites in the past years of our success and there has been some embarrassing Gator fans trolling, but the Noles, Vols, dawgs, are very quick to ban them in a heart beat… If we continue to suck, we will soon get our share of trolls as well. I will not enjoy that at all.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
by Hook85 on Oct 10, 2010 7:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nah. We’ll be fine. As far as “trolling” I sure as heck hope that none of the main posters here do that. Always thought that was kind of dumb.
The Once and Future King
I got banned from the Vols blog
because I said I didn’t feel sorry for them when Lame Kiffin quit on them after they were drinking the kool-aid and basically defended lane Kiffin for all his low antics all season long and then they were all shocked and surprised when he quit on them. I wasn’t that’s for sure.
I guess I could of waited a few days to say I told ya so, but screw them I was still pissed about how I was treated when u tried to tell them Kiffin was a joke and they should not be proud of his stupid publicity stunts.
My point is, other blogs are rediculously strict on rules, I can see why sometimes.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
other blogs are rediculously strict on rules
This is very true. My thing is that I’m not going to step in the way of someone’s comments. If I banned people for being annoying or making absurd comments, I would have banned Gator fans too. Other than a few magic words, I think the only other ban I used was when a Seminole fan was trying to physically threaten/intimidate people. He used the magic words too.
mlmintampa
UF C/O 06
http://www.alligatorarmy.com
The yahoo comments are the bottom of society.
That said, if they got that bad, I would ban them. But I’m not going to ban a FSU fan calling out UF fans when they only drew 60k to a conference game. If anything, I would promote that FSU comment for how hilarious it was. Besides, if we can dish it, we can take it.
mlmintampa
UF C/O 06
http://www.alligatorarmy.com
I was mostly referring to a worst case scenario like the yahoo comments...
Other then that, rival team fans can bring it on!
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
It’s kind of amazing isn’t it? The fact that FSU and other teams can’t even fill up their own stadium, but yet their “fan” posters come out of the wood-works to post anywhere and everywhere.
The Once and Future King
especially since we lost two in a row, they are casually dropping by now.
It was nice while it lasted I guess. I still have hope though that we will get our shit together and play like the Kentucky game from here on out.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
Don’t worry. The rest of the season the Gators will be better than good. And next year is going to be a blast.
The Once and Future King
next year's defense will be stout
Unfortunately, the offense will still look like the keystone cops so long as Addazio is still here.
I'll be completely honest
I fully expect the Gators to pull something together on offense by the time FSU comes around. I rag, but the talent is there at Florida, obviously.
Im pretty sure it isn't the players.
You have Top 10 recruiting classes (not rated by just ESPN, Scout and Rivals too) almost every year. Yeah, some players are hit and miss, but entire classes??? Please.
my 3 cents
play calling leaves a lot to be desired
i don’t believe we gain a strategic or tactical advantage getting plays in after the line is set; i think it reduces effectiveness
we have some good players, but lsu and alabama have better ones
for all the receivers we recruit, we don’t have very good ones, at least not a julio jones or tolliver and we definitely don’t have running back like richardson, ingram, etc., or defensive linemen like nevis or darius
in short, no game changers
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Terrance Toliver was almost a Gator. But at the time he was being recruited, we still had Percy Harvin, David Nelson, Louis Murphy…etc. He wanted immediate playing time, and obviously we couldn’t give him much.
The defensive linemen will come in due time. Most everyone (the highly touted ones) are freshman. Give them a year.
The Once and Future King
Game Changers?
Demps and now Debose are proven game changers.
UF was down 2 TDs in the 4th qtr. and pretty much buried when Debose took the kickoff back to the house. The momentum suddenly swung 180 degrees and the Gators were able to take the lead shortly thereafter.
That is, by definition, a game changer.
I think we have special athletes – Omarius Hines being one of them. However, when he doesn’t touch the ball, he isn’t going to change too many games.
by skigator93 on Oct 11, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
demps is fast, but
that great a tailback
wrong guys touching the ball much of the time, you bet
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Demps
Despite running him into the middle of the line on 90% of his carries, is still averaging 6.5 yards per carry. That’s pretty special.
Mack Brown is averaging 7.7 YPG…..on 3 carries. Yet, we still lean on Moody when Demps was out. Addazio makes Forrest Gump look like Einstein.
yep
but he needs to be running outside more
his plus is speed and getting beat up between the tackles is not the way to make the most of his tools
personally, i think they still cling, subconsciously or not, to the tebow offense
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
We’re beat up, it’s true, and some of the other “personnel decisions” have been questionable, at best, as many have commented. BOTH of the above can be laid to some extent at the feet of the same coaching staff that is doing such a putrid job of preparation, pre-game planning and in-game flexibility. For example, the QB and our most productive speed back have been injured through their mis-use, while one promising receiver hardly sees the field no matter WHAT he does when he gets there (like run in a kickoff return), while another is kept in the doghouse even while he pays his own way and does everything asked of him, and the supposed Percy-back picked and groomed for the slot remains in limbo, no discussion or explanation allowed (even once the courts are done with the matter that put him there).
Meanwhile, there are a LOT of talented young players over there along the sidelines who could gain a lot of valuable on-field experience in the course of an otherwise transitional season, which even the more naively over-optimistic Gator fans are realizing this one is headed towards. This is the time to make necessary changes—on the field AND in the coaching staff. Doesn’t even have to be all that drastic: Addazio back to O-line and his recruiting/administrative duties, and either promote Loeffler to OC or bring in a new guy (which ever Urban has to do to keep the peace AND assuage his sense of honor and friendship). The team on the field could be BATTLE-TESTED going into the Spring, ready to begin a new run towards dominance and excellence.
game experience
i suspect urb wishes they had given more chances to brantley in games they were up by 20 pts, instead of running timmy out there series after series
also, who didn’t see the fade coming from lsu on that last play (again)-except the dc
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Hi Guys!
I just dropped by to see how you were holding up! Look around and you can see how us Wildcats feel every football season. See ya later when the real ball season starts!
Happy Days are here again! Wildcat's have #1 recruiting class again!
Sorry Donovan et al, but this is and will remain a FOOTBALL school. We’ll climb back on “that other” wagon when Billy catches lightning in a bottle recruiting-wise a second time. Meanwhile, “Old” Urban needs to come back and fire “New” Urban’s ass—or I guess it’s up to Foley to clean house and get things moving SOONER rather than later—never thought I’d say the above (even a month ago), but if we face wholesale upheaval in mid-season and bring in a young visionary like Wittingham now he’ll have the rest of the season to bond with the young guys, get them familiar with and battle-tested in the new system AND retain and add to our NEXT recruiting class. Otherwise we lose at LEAST next year right along with this one.
Almost no chance it’ll happen, though. Too much stubborness, arrogance, denial and self-delusion going on in this program I’m afraid.
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