How injured is John Brantley?
Urban Meyer said following Saturday's loss to LSU that John Brantley had "damage" to his ribs and a sprained thumb. Brantley said something similar. This refuted a report by ESPN's Joe Schad that claimed Brantley had four cracked ribs and a broken bone in his thumb.
But, rather than give up on the story, Schad has stuck with it. Schad says Brantley has hairline fractures in four ribs and a small fracture in his thumb. In addition, Schad's source says due to Brantley's rib injury, the quarterback's mechanics were wrong and gave him shoulder pain from throwing the ball wrong. That shoulder pain was why Brantley couldn't throw Thursday or Friday.
There are a few non-football things to consider here. In terms of who you believe, we have the Gators (who are notoriously prickly and secretive with the media) and Schad's unnamed source (who gave more detailed information and cleared ESPN's editorial standards for acceptable unnamed sourcing). The Gators may also be physically protecting Brantley, in the way that hockey players get "lower-body injuries" when they have an ankle sprain, so opponents don't know how to target them. Schad's source seems to be feeding the information as a sort of, "Look what they've done to my boy!" and shaming the Gators into protecting Brantley more with better blocking packages and no quarterback options.
I would expect most fans to stick with the Gators on this. However, I have a suspicion that Schad's source is accurate. The information Schad has is too specific to be some random dude. Also, Schad seems to like Brantley a lot. I wouldn't expect him (or any ESPN reporter) to continue to run with a story unless it is accurate. You can rip ESPN for a lot of things, but their reporters are generally correct. Something else to consider is that former Gator Chris Doering said Saturday morning that Brantley wouldn't play at all.
Football wise, it puts the Gators in an awful position. Assuming it is just ribs and a bad thumb, Brantley won't be close to full strength for a while. Any sort of trunk injury will cause a throwing problem as the player rotates to throw. The thumb, if it is at the bottom of the hand, might be ok. Baseball catchers get that injury from foul tips glancing off the mitt, and can play with it.
Against LSU, Brantley was 16/24 for 154 yards, with almost all of his passes within 10 yards (average completion was 6.4 yards). If we're looking for more evidence that Brantley was significantly hurt, Brantley had one running play and there were very few option plays. Compare that to 16/32 passing for 202 yards (average 6.2 yards) against Alabama. He was also credited with seven rushes in that game. That means against Bama, he was willing to scramble if in trouble and run the option. Not so against LSU.
We'll have to wait for Urban Meyer and Steve Addazio's comments this week to see if there is any additional information. But the Gators, with only Trey Burton as a backup, need Brantley. Even at 75 percent, he is a better option than Burton. Thankfully, after Mississippi State on Saturday night, the Gators have a bye week. If Brantley is protected well against the Bulldogs, he could be much healthier for Georgia on Halloween weekend.
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I don’t know if Brantley is really as hurt as Joe Schad says he is (I too suspect that he is), but like you say…Miss State should be a site for sore eyes. Literally.
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Miss State had 538 yards of offense last week at Houston. Yes, it was Houston, but 538 is still a big deal.
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That, and I don't trust the O-line to protect Brantley from anyone.
"In case you're wondering what the offense should look like, that wasn't it." - Urban Meyer
by cantcatchuf on Oct 11, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously
I love each and every one of our O-Linemen… but as a unit they can’t seem to block anything. I don’t know whether to blame Addazio not paying attention since he’s become coordinator, or the massive quantity of injuries we have on the line, or the being switched around so much (out of necessity, see injuries) and not fully understanding the plays, but if I had to point out our single greatest problem on the year, that’d be it. The line. JUST. CAN’T. BLOCK.
by The Commenter Formerly Known as Not You on Oct 11, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously?
I wouldn’t be shocked if Mississippi State beat us this weekend. Heck, I’d barely be surprised. Maybe taken aback…
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Agreed
If Demps doesn’t play we are in trouble. Also, everyone should look at the fact that currently Florida has a verbal commitment from the number 1 rated pro-style prospect. Each week I think we are playing ourselves into a decommit.
Brantley.
You and I don’t see eye to eye on John’s abilities, but we definitely agree on his toughness. That said, if they’re letting him play with fractures in his ribs and thumb, then I have even less confidence in our coaching staff that ever before. The bottom line is that he was already on pace to post the worst season by a Gator QB since, I don’t know, Doug Johnson? So, what sense does it make to trot him out there, exposing him to greater injury, if only to see his performance struggle even further?
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You might need to go further back than Doug Johnson
With only 1056 yards passing and 6 TDs through 6 games, Brantely isn’t on pace to match Johnson’s numbers as Gator QB:
1997 2023, 21 TDs
1998 2346, 19 TDs
1999 2574, 20 TDs
Maybe Terry Dean? or Kyle Morris?
He will probably get to the 2,000 yard mark, I doubt hell get to 20 TDS because he gets yanked every time they get in the redzone.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
Help me here Ski
What was his name? Larry Otab?
Ochab?
Possible, I’ve tried to blot it out subconsciously I guess. Where can we look up past rosters etc. I’ve been watching the Gators for a long time but my memory often fails. What year did Ochab (or whoever) play? What were his stats?
He was before my time, but
it sounds like he played in ‘79 and ’80 when the Gators were terrible. This site has rosters by year
But I’ve never found a really good one with stats before the mid 90s, which can be found on the Gatorzone site.
I followed UGA growing up (raised in Atlanta), but became a Gator my freshman year in 1989 and have bled orange and blue ever since.
A good resource for team records, scores, coaching records, etc.
Is this one. You can see any teams all time record against any other team and so forth. I was really shocked at how one sided our record against UT is in the modern era. We have pretty much owned them. It sure seemed like they used to trip us up quite a bit, but I suppose the losses were just magnified because they were so costly to our SECCG plans.
Many thanks
I was born in Gainesville in ’54 and I had no choice. I was indoctrinated from birth. I remember listening to games on the radio when Spurrier, Youngblood, and later when John Reaves and Carlos Alvarez played. Rarely did we get to see a Florida game on television back then. I truly appreciate the information and I look forward to examining a reliable record to shore up my faulty memory. Go Gators!
Doug Johnson was awesome until that one loss at LSU.
He was looking like the next Danny Wauerfull, and then LSU upset us and then the stupid QB shuffle started with Palmer.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
Hopefully they will keep not running the option, and continue with thier last drive against LSU and run more diverse plays.
Anything but the dive I guess.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
remember the script sequence they started with at TN?
best they’ve looked this year
not just selection, but everyone knew the play
constant last second changes are deleterious to good offense
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
I TiVod the LSU game
If I have time, I am going to watch again and calculae what percentage of our offensive plays are dives. It sure seems like more than 50%.
Yahoo sports on the game recap has a play by play game drive.
it won’t say dive ofcourse but it’ll say run up the middle.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
Cant Tebow use his jesus powers to heal Brantely
God knows he wont do crap in the NFL anyway.
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