Florida Gators Sunday Notes
by mlmintampa on Oct 17, 2010 9:18 AM EDT
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- That sound you heard at 11pm last night was the Tebow-only Bandwagon fans falling over themselves to get away from the Gators. The sound actually was the 21-car pile up they caused when their Toyota 4Runner with the Jesus fish and Sarah 2012 stickers cut off a line of cars on I-75. People with Jesus fish stickers on their car are terrible drivers.
- The Orlando Sentinel's Mike Bianchi thinks Urban Meyer could bench Steve Addazio or John Brantley. Benching Brantley is an intellectually lazy argument. Not only are you assuming that Brantley is a major problem, but that the alternative is better. Maybe Trey Burton can run the ball better than Johnny, but I think there is a reason why Burton only has two passes and they came in a blowout. To be sure, Brantley is a problem, but so is the play calling and protection schemes. When I was in school, I knew people who thought Chris Leak should have been benched for Ingle Martin or Gavin Dickey. Those people were hospitality majors or got MRS. degrees.
- The Gainesville Sun notes how UF was 1 for 3 in the red zone Saturday, with two drives ending with a missed field goal and a fumble. If you remember, the failures in the red zone was the biggest point of our argument against Addazio.
- Brantley says he and the team have Meyer's and Addazio's back. That's nice, because as I tweeted during the game, I would expect Addazio to fall on the sword by Brantley's dad stabbing him with the sword. Maybe Uncle Pennybags and the Bull Gators will make Addazio fall on the sword too. (Follow us on twitter @AlligatorArmy. We're super insightful and fun to be around!)
- Pat Dooley writes the two scariest words for a SEC fan, "Hello Shreveport." He also notes UF can win out and win the SEC East. Forget taking the back door to the SEC Championship. That would be taking the trap door.
- Dan Mullen said this was not an upset, and he was right. UF was outplayed on offense again. The defense was average to above-average. I know the defense is occasionally frustrating, but I have yet to hear someone seriously complain about Teryl Austin. But that could be because he is being compared to a mental midget.
- The Palm Beach Post considers the possibility that UF just doesn't have the offensive talent. In the same piece, they push for Mack Brown and Frankie Hammond to get chances. This isn't the NFL. You can't trade anyone or sign free agents. That means if you can't coach the talent you have, you need to find a new gig.
- By the way, you can probably tell we're getting defensive and firing at everyone. So I apologize to Sarah Palin supporters, people who drive foreign SUVs, intellectually lazy people, hospitality majors, Shreveport, and midgets. Not people with Jesus fish on their cars, because they really are bad drivers.
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“Hello Shreveport.”
Even Zook didn’t do that. I want mass changes if this happens.
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Not a chance the Gators fall past the Gator Bowl. I can see it now, Michigan vs Florida in perhaps the most meaningless New Years Bowl both have ever played in.
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by Jonathan Loesche on Oct 17, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously?
One year at 7-5 or so and that’s it? Blow it all up? After three SEC Championship games in 5 years? Really? How does this make sense?
Next time you want to say that the Shreveport Bowl is a good bowl, look at yourself in the mirror first. Then see what your reaction is.
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Shreveport would be awful.
It would also be one bad outcome in a sea of SEC title games, National Championships, and Heisemens.
Keep Calm.
rock bottom
this kinda feels like rock bottom which means we’re almost there. if we were alcoholics, we’ve just lost our wife and kids and can finally admit we have a problem. but unfortunately we won’t fullly hit bottom until we get caught smoking crack with the cheap hooker in an alley behind the bar and spend the month in jail drying out.
that’s in 2 weeks in jacksonville. hang in there gators, it’s for your own good.
There was an entire “Mad Men” episode like that this season. Don Draper starts cleaning himself up, going to the gym, and cutting back on liquor and smoking. Of course, he sleeps with his secretary and his company is in danger of going under, but at least he looks better.
mlmintampa
UF C/O 06
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The funny thing about last night was
The play calling was mixed up, yet they still looked like shit. Brantley never had time to throw deep even if they never tried. Stone hands is was back in full force and maybe passed it on to some others.
I think I am in the acceptance stage of the 5 stages of grief.
USF was denial/bargaining
Bama was anger
LSU was deppression
Now I’ve come to just accept my team just isn’t that good…
What’s really funny is Cocks lost to a team we stomped, but beat a team that stomped us…? College football is so confusing.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
by Hook85 on Oct 17, 2010 9:52 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
anyone know
why gonzalez was passed over for addazio for OC?
passing game seems to have gone down hill, beginning last year
is loeffler involved much in passing game?
lots of new players, new coaches—maybe we lost the wrong ones?
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Granted, I enjoy going to JU games and the Dolphins can put up points with the best of them, but there is no way Bell could possibly take over a UF team, even as an OC
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by Jonathan Loesche on Oct 17, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
You know, I had a few scenarios at the beginning of the year
In one of them, everything went right, the Gators finished 13-1, and somehow won the MNC.
In another, everything went wrong, the Gators finished 5-7, and we missed a bowl. Neither of those scenarios involved losing to Mississippi State.
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised to finish 2-3 (beating only Vandy and App State).
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One thing I really hate
is how the offense was actually having success with Burton in and us just running the option up the field and then we get close and we bring Brantley back in. One of (key word one of) the most frustrating things with Addazio is he just wont make up his mind what kind of offense we want to be. If you want to run then just put in Burton and lets run…
have to consider hard facts:
1) teams simply go through down years. The Gators have been national title holders and title contenders for the last 4-5 years. Unless every recruiting class has been blue chippers the whole way (and I don’t think they have) we’re just at that point where the Seniors and Juniors just aren’t as good as we’re used to.
2) The offensive coaching IS that bad. There seems to be an inability to adjust the play-calling to the talent we have, and also an inability to gauge the right time and place for certain plays (such as an overemphasis on ground-pounding the ball instead of getting downfield for points). Also, a lack of balls.
3) There’s nothing wrong with the St. Petersburg Bowl… if it ever comes to that…
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Our recruiting classes have been very solid lately. Now granted, they have been based on defense and it’s a big reason the defense has not seen such a big dip, but I don’t think we can solely blame the recruits and players. Brantley hasn’t been good at all, but he hasn’t been put in the best position to succeed. Demps is a talented player but is hurt/not being used bc of I guess injury. Hines is a great player yet we don’t really have any plays to pass to a huge, fast, talented receiver. I think we have some good players we just aren’t using them properly.
Also note that Bama has tons of great young players yet they are still pulling the best in the nation. Anything Saban can do we should be able to do.
Difference between Saban and UF
Saban has an established quarterback, o-line, and offensive scheme in place. After Saban loses his qb and heisman tailback, Bama will have a down year as well. It may not be as drastic as what we are experiencing; however, not only did we lose our entire offense, but we also lost our entire staff. We will recover. We may be out of contention for a couple years; however, we are acquiring the right pieces to the puzzle. Unfortunately, college football is a “what have you done for me lately” business. At this point, we need to be patient and set realistic expectations for the team. This year a four loss team would be great. Next year, if make it through the season with 2 or 3 losses, then it may be called a success as well. Fellas, we had a perfect storm for 4-5 years. Now, we have a new staff, team, and we need to find a new identity.
w/o game film, hard to say
but brantley seems either not read the defense very quickly or
our receivers can’t run routes and manage separation
he’s rushed quite often, but getting the ball down field isn’t all about bad protection
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
We suck.
That is all.
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We're 4-3.
We’ve been 4-3 before (and the last time we promptly beat 3 ranked teams in a row).
We’ll be 4-3 again.
We’re playing profoundly crappy football. But we control our own destiny, and no one remaining on the SEC schedule is really any better than the team we just lost to by three thanks to a lack of a kicker and a fumble in the red zone. Or the team we lost to by 4 because of one of the flukiest plays in college history. Let’s not give up quite yet. Still plenty of time to become 2007 Tennessee (which, there are worse things).
Time to get hammered
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Loyalty
I appreciate minitampa’s article on maturity. To me it is about loyalty. If you ever played sports, or simply live a real life, you know that there are down moments, tough clutch moments that call for loyalty, belief, and hard work. I agree with this basic premise from the standpoint of supporting a team and living a good life. However, I disagree with the premise that we should accept a mediocre or “down year”. Florida is, or is supposed to be, an elite program like USC or UM was in their heydays. Those programs, when they were reeling of national championships and beating teams on reputation alone, never had years like we are having and this is why what is happening to the Gators is not acceptable. We waited decades to be an elite program and we cannot let it slip away because of bad decisions.
If you believe in accountability the way I do then the problem is NOT Addazio, it is about Urban Meyer’s choices for play calling and Offensive Coordinator. To get beaten by LSU on a fake field goal when everyone in the world new it was coming is atrocious and means our team and our coaching staff has lost their edge, both mentally and physically and this start’s with Meyer. I am not calling for him to be fired but I think the proper thing is to demote Addazio and hire the best damn OC we can find, and for Meyer to take a step back and re-evaluate what he is doing differently this year compared to last year. I believe the issue is very deeply rooted. When we get intimidated and humbled by the likes of Miles and MSU, then something is wrong at a deeper level.
We are not rebuilding, we are sinking into mediocrity or worse and this is never acceptable from an elite program.
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We just arnt that good. But all this talk about how we will no longer be a top tier team in the future is a little rediculous. It’s one season, our QB doesn’t fit, our line is full of crippled old men, our WRs can’t catch worth a damn, and our defense is young.
Only thing that transfers over is Addazio sucking at OC, other then that we will get a better suited QB, our line will get better, new WRs will step in, and that Defense is GOING to be great! Just relieve Addazio of OC, Gators will be back on top.
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by Hook85 on Oct 18, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know none of you want to hear this
especially from me, being a Nole fan. But does the Meyer/Addazio situation remind anyone of…the Bobby Bowden/Jeff Bowden situation?
It eventually got sooo bad at FSU (Wake beat us 30-0 at home), that we fired Jeffy and got Jimbo. Not that the problems stopped there, but that’s beside the point (Meyer is not senile).
Thoughts?
It does strike me as similar
in that Urban is strangely reluctant to even admit something is wrong. I understand having loyalty towards your guy, but from the coach who, against UGA in 2007, benched our only viable running threat for two early fumbles (one of which was not his fault), this kind of loyalty in the face of overwhelming evidence is a little weird… and Bowdenesque.
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