Are you worried?
by mlmintampa on Nov 2, 2010 12:00 PM EDT
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PrintWe're playing Bill Simmons and you are Jack-O. The question is; are you worried?
The Gators finally had a game in which the best players made the best plays. We didn't get John Brantley's first cold blooded drive, but Trey Burton, Chris Rainey, Will Hill and Chas Henry all made the most of their chances. The defense forced four turnovers and Urban Meyer did not look like he wanted to puke after the game.
Of course, Florida gave up 21 points in the 4th quarter, was shutout again in the 1st quarter and there is that whole deal with Brantley not making as many plays as he should. Throw in Steve Addazio still calling plays at random (random is not a strategy, people), and there was enough to make you puke after a win. Not to mention, the Gators kicked out Jonathan Dowling, who must have done something horrific to get kicked out of UF. My guess is he stole Bernie Machen's motorcycle.
The Gators control their own destiny to win the SEC, which is all you can ask for in a rebuilding season. But are you worried? Vanderbilt seems like a sure win, even with our ability to play like garbage. The South Carolina game is the SEC East Championship Game, which is just about what we expected. It will be a home game, but UF has lost two of those. Everything seems better though, because Meyer doesn't look like crap and the offense is slightly improved. Either that or UGA's defense made us look good. (The 4-14 third down conversion was a mess, however.)
So, are you worried about not winning the division? Or are you confident that a few rolls of duct tape, suspended running backs and Rolaids will get us to Atlanta?
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It will depend upon what team Spurrier brings.
If its the South Carolina that embarrassed Bama, we don’t stand a chance. Otherwise, it will be a back-and-forth game like it was against Georgia, and with luck we can win.
Here’s to hoping the Chicken Curse strikes in our favor.
"In case you're wondering what the offense should look like, that wasn't it." - Urban Meyer
Yeah, kind of...
I think we’ll handle Vandy, though nothing is for certain as long as Addazio is calling plays. South Carolina should be a real test. Those guys are pretty good, and have clearly been a better team than us this year. That being said, it’s not as if many of the fellas on the SC sideline have played in many high leverage games, or even been a part of them. Sure they’ve had big games like everyone else, but that game in Gainesville is a de facto playoff kind of game. I expect our guys to be better suited to that kind of atmosphere. Now whether or not that will be enough remains to be seen, but Garcia is meltdown prone, and we have a very good secondary. If we can limit Lattimore, which won’t be easy but can be done, I like our chances. The run D has been good all year, so if that can hold, we could be Atlanta bound so that we can be Auburn, or Bama’s sacrificial lamb…on second thought, do we really want to the division? The thought of getting killed in the SECCG sickens me.
Heck yeah, I'm worried.
It’s Spurrier. Remember when he was on our side, and how well he coached in these types of games? Plus, this is South Carolina’s year (if not now, when?), and we needed every break we could get to beat a resurgent but not-that-good Georgia team. Seven points against MSU? Yup, I’m worried.
BUT! I’m also very pleased that we’re even in this position. Given how dire things were looking before the UGA win, I’m just happy to be where we are.
Cock Block
That was not a perfect performance, but we saw glimpses of what we could be. Heck, people are comparing our offense to Oregon … i guess maybe it could be? No doubt the potential is there. We will need luck for sure.
wow
who did that? (compare uf with oregons offense)
by silverstreak3k on Nov 2, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
My hope and dream remains
that Mark Helfrich is the next University of Florida OC, though I doubt his next move would be another coordinator job. Mimicking Oregon would be fine with this guy. If we can turn Urban’s spread into a no huddle offense, and get it to run smoothly (as in not how it did against UGA after 2 weeks of practice) I can easily see this offense once again returning to the 40 pts per game it was at under Mullen.
It all depends on how we play the next two weeks.
Was the Georgia game a fluke or perhaps the product of the bye week or is this the beginning of a turn around. We have two weeks to figure that out. Let’s also hope that the boys don’t get to over confident in the next two weeks (although god only knows how good App State is).
vandy - unconcerned
usc, of course concerned. the ol ball coach is a hell of a coach and can actually gameplan accordingly.
My thought about the game was this:
Celebrate the win.
Remain frustrated with the performance.
It was not a good game (in terms of performance.) Georgia was making a ton of mistakes, and so were we. They just happened to be a little more fail than we were. Keep in mind, UGA lost to freaking Colorado. People seem to be taking way more away from this than they really should. The O line is still in shambles. Our offense appears to rely entirely on two guys, random big plays out of conservative play calls, and insane field position as a result of the other team misfiring.
I don't know about South Cackalacki, Appy State, FSU, or anything else down the road
We play Vanderbilt this week, and in case you haven’t noticed, we’re not good enough to overlook ANYBODY – let alone an SEC team on the road. Go Gators, beat the Commodores!!
by skigator93 on Nov 2, 2010 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Meyer.
Was I the only one that thought Meyer was about to freaking pass out on the sidelines throughout the UGA game? Heck, I even saw an assistant yelling at him at one point as he looked pale, sweaty, confused, scared, etc. The guy definitely doesn’t have a poker face!
As for your other questions, I’m still worried about all our remaining games, but I think Vandy is the most winnable. That said, I think we could pull them all out if we continue to get healthier and the playmakers bail out the playcallers.
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For the Author . . .
I would love for you to share your inside information for which you must possess in order to continually bash Urban Meyer for his decision in regard to Rainey. Also, I would appreciate more information, from your source of course, indicating exactly why Urban kicked the safety off the team. If you lack any inside information, and you merely enjoy bashing Urban Meyer, then why the hell even post anything. I deal in facts. If you have an issue with the law, in regard to Rainey, lets debate it. Although I hate to speculate as to who will win or lose, I think you may be outmatched. Otherwise, discussion in regard to the remainder of the season and how UF will perform is welcome, and I enjoy sepculating about those issues. That being said, unless you possess some factual knowledge, which the rest of us do not have access, then your specualtion and crticism merely evidences your ignorance. If you want to ban me, then ban me. However, your statements are not appreciated and based on bias. That is, your own personal bias and lack all objectivity.
Don't worry about mlm's Rainey hate
He’s never seen eye to eye with me on the issue. I say Rainey was just a kid with some poor impulse control that lives in a day and age where it’s easy to make a mistake that will haunt you forever, even if you don’t mean it and say it out of a moment of anger (internet, text messages, twitter… it’s out there forever as soon as you send it off). He seems to be of the opinion that Rainey is the worst human being since Hitler (hyperbole, but my point is he takes what Rainey did as a serious threat and holds that against him).
http://www.firesteveaddazio.com/
I wasn’t aware I was still hung up on the Rainey thing, but I thought 7 games or more (half season) was preferable to me. I’m stating that as an opinion. As a writer, I use both facts and opinions. And as colombo mentions, it is in the eye of the beholder what you think of Rainey. We both know Rainey can say crazy things, but I differ in that I thought this was more serious. I think you’ll find that since Rainey has come back, we allude to his legal troubles, but also gave him credit for his play against UGA. As for Dowling, since we don’t know why he was removed, I came up with an absurd reason. If you really think I’m claiming that Dowling stole Bernie Machen’s motorcycle, I suggest reading previous articles to grasp my sense of humor.
As for bias towards or against Meyer, I would agree in that I’m hard on him. People are supposed to have opinions and I choose to be hard on the coaches, rather than the players (the few exceptions being Dan Werner, T.J. Pridemore and some players who keep breaking the law). I expect much more out of Meyer than a college kid. I’m honored you think I have some sort of special access, but I assure you my day job does not allow me time to get any special access.
By the way, it’s clear you need to read more of Alligator Army because you would know I almost never ban people. Disagreeing with me sure as hell doesn’t merit a ban. Trolling for comments and changing your profile picture to the mugshot of a Gators player does merit a ban.
mlmintampa
UF C/O 06
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Fair Enough
Personally, I would take a more objective approach; however, as you said, it is all about preference. That being said, if you make conclusions without the privilege of all the facts, then your conclusions will not be complete; and you run the risk of painting an inaccurate image of someone or some situation.
Bottom line, I am just tired of listening to people, whom are supposed to be Gator fans, bash Urban Meyer and criticize every decision made.
How can someone be objective, but not be critical?
I’m supposed to be objective and fair, but not consider when one side has failed? That does not make sense. I can be a really obnoxious Gator fan, but I also know when the team is not meeting our expectations. If you would rather read UF’s Baghdad Bob, go here.
Also, the idea that someone is less of a Gator fan if they criticize Urban Meyer is bull shit. He’s a football coach, not the Pope. If a fan thinks Meyer is wrong to keep Steve Addazio as offensive coordinator or that Meyer is wrong for how he uses his backs, be critical. Legitimate criticism is always necessary in sports. Otherwise, we would have a lot of terrible coaches getting by, instead of only Mark Richt.
mlmintampa
UF C/O 06
http://www.alligatorarmy.com
Objectivity
Objective in your analysis without arguing personal bias. Objectively state the facts and allow other to form an opinion. However, by stating partial truths and forming a conclsuion based on those partial truths, the conclusions go beyond good journalism.
As for the crticism of Urban Meyer, to assume that Urban Meyer does not want what is best for the program, any declarant of such a fact is merely making a leap of logic. No one is in a better position than Urban to make such decisions for the program. Bottom line, because we have lost three games, it seems as though most fans are suddenly questioning every decision by the staff and Urban. You are correct. Urban is not the Pope. However, if we were 8-1, no one would have any reservations. The obvious facts are as follows: (i) completely new staff, (ii) other options are unknown to us, (iii) completely new players and the need to develop a new system, and (iv) a great incoming class of players. You proclaim that, as fans, we should not allow a head coach of a successful program to make staffing decisions. Without our uneducated input, the program would fall into dismay. I simply disagree.
I believe that, by showing support for Urban Meyer, our coaches and staff would be more productive. Furthermore, by criticizing Urban’s decisions in regard to personnel and moral terpitude, we are displaying a complete lack of allegiance to Urban and the program. You, like all other fans, have a right to your own opinion. That being said, IMO, most of the remarks and criticism are unfounded and go beyond legitimate criticism. Obviously, what constitutes legitimate criticism is a grey area and depends on the individual’s perception and beliefs. However, after all the success whch Urban and staff have brought to this program, how is it legitimate to question someone’s core values and ability to govern the future of this program.
Conspiracy Theory Time
Florida’s game is at Noon. SC’s game is at 7. If Florida wins, SC’s game is pretty much meaningless in terms of the division race. Would the OBC be so diabolical as to save his starters and risk a loss in order to keep them healthy for the 13th?
Florida
I went to my first college football game over the weekend in Jacksonville to see our boys play. I must say it was an amazing experience and cannot wait to go again. I had a blast! Back to the topic at hand. I think Florida is going to beat South Carolina. I think Florida played a pretty good game other than allowing the 21 pts in the 4th. I think Florida will put pressure on Garcia and force him to make bad throws and we will capitalize. My only worry is stopping the run. We did a really good job against Bama’s run game. I think Florida will make it to the Atlanta. But the question is who will they be playing? Bama or Auburn?
We have a chance to win.
Probably an equal chance to lose given we’re playing at home. If this were @ SC, I don’t see it happening unless Spurrier gets stubborn slinging the ball without success. They ought to be able to win just by pounding the rock, if they play their cards right.
Honestly, I can’t even be bothered to think about SC right now. Vandy has my full attention… this is a week-by-week, day-by-day, and frankly, minute-by-minute team. Anything more than a week into the future might as well be a year.
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It is clear that a team with less talent is able to stay in the game with Florida by running the ball almost exclusively. Florida has looked at its worst when the opponent continues to pound the running game. Monte Kiffin exposed the flaw last year, making a good Gator team look very mediocre. Dan Mullen was able to win the game by running the ball on almost every play. Don’t think for a second that SOS is going to let Stephen Garcia turn the ball over when he can run Marcus Lattimore down our throats all game. Be prepared for South Carolina to control possession, and for them to throw the ball no more than a dozen times.
With that said, let’s get a win in Nashville.
I'm not concerned, I'm terrified...
We had no business winning the Georgia game, to take it as anything other than the universe’s blind hatred for Georgia is to go too far.
Vandy concerns me. Even when we have a good team, Vandy still shows up and makes a game of it. We do not have a good team. They could Absolutely beat us by 2 touchdowns.
FSU and South Carolina. One of them will beat us, probably both. Home field advantage means nothing for us this year, and as long as our offense is suffocating under the monumental and Zook-esque prison rape of our offense, we cannot approach any more games with confidence. Fuck You Steve Addazio. Fuck you in your fucking mouth.
Always struggle with Vandy
Want proof?
1996 National Championship team. Beat Vandy 28-21
2006 National Championship team. Beat Vandy 25-19
2008 National Chmapionship team? well, they handled Vandy 42-14
But Urban’s 2005 team won 49-42 in 2 OTs or was it 3?
Three, and it was Cutler single handedly
I’m with the above commentator to an extent. I will never root for us to lose, although I think it is the only way Addazio gets the boot. Do not take it as a bash on Meyer, but no progress is being made with our current offense and he is the CEO.
Call me a pessimist, but O Line is still under achieving in its current set-up, receivers are running routes that have no damn purpose, and my liver is struggling to watch much more of this.
Leak has always been my favorite and, while I believe Tebow was a crutch for the past three years, I never believed we could be less creative, assertive, or completely unable to adapt.
Since she got reelected for the umpteenth time—-Go Gata!!!
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