Game 12: We lose
by mlmintampa on Nov 27, 2010 7:50 PM EST
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PrintFlorida's 31-7 loss Saturday night to Florida State was all of the season's problems wrapped into one neat 60 minute package. There were the fumbles that were not a result of hits, John Brantley floating balls into opposition hands, Urban Meyer and Steve Addazio struggling to get plays in, desperate 4th down plays, and a complete lack of organization and discipline. The sickness of the lack of focus has spread so far that even the equipment trainers screwed up by not bring longer cleats for the tall and slick grass in Tallahassee.
The Gators made it 7-3 after converting a short field in the first quarter, but that drive was not evidence of things to come. FSU outplayed the Gators, for the first time in seven games. But much of the Gators' performance was the same mistakes that have plagued them all season. The Florida offense turned the ball over on fumbles, a pick and downs, leading to 14 FSU points, field position switches and denying the Gators points when they drove the ball late in the second quarter.
The second quarter drive that ended with Brantley's interception was his Kiss of Death. After Jordan Reed rolled the Gators 60 yards, Brantley came in on 3rd down inside the FSU 20. His ball was beautiful, as they always are. But he didn't see the defensive back underneath and was throwing to a player surrounded by two other FSU defenders. Had Reed not gotten hurt in the second half by diving like the whale in the Pacific Life commercial, we might not have seen Brantley again.
Florida will accept a bowl bid, maybe the Music City Bowl, because they need the extra days to practice. In the mean time, Urban says it's time to rebuild. That's nice and all, but it starts at the top with Meyer. He needs to reassert himself and mold the program back into the vision of a team that wins because elite athletes are in positions to win by coaches who understand what they are doing. Don't blame one-armed Moses Jenkins for getting beat all day or Chris Rainey for fumbling the ball. The problems for this team started in the football offices and filtered to the game days.
As for the total season perspective, we will have more on that later this week. In the meantime, please be serious about this; Florida had won six consecutive games in a series that had not had that level of domination in 20 years. Things happen. Teams lose games. In addition, it is not very flattering to be a fan and blow this game out of proportion. There are a lot of tragedies in life and losing to Florida State is not one of them. A tragedy would be attending Florida State, not losing a football game.
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I’m also glad that the Seminoles finally got their win to end the streak at a time in which the Gators weren’t in the National Title picture.
The Once and Future King
HMMM
About as glad as all the Gator fans that hang their haats on a 6 game streak when FSU was at it’s lowest. You Gators still have a long way to fall. Next year season is gonna be pretty long for you guys.
GO NOLES! GO EAGLES!
You're hanging your hat
On ONE win when the Gators are at their lowest. Same difference?
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 28, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
The Fisher train is rolling, and unlike Urban, he designed the offense :)
I bet you were all as big of Bobby fans as I am of Addazio.
I know that process is the focus, but I would really LOVE to see some results against UM and UF.
Great post....
Your post sums it up. Nothing much to add — except that I can at least forgive Reed for his high dive for reasons: 1. He is a freshman. 2. At least he was committed to the game.
The reports are that he got a concussion on the play. He was seen throwing up after the game.
mlmintampa
UF C/O 06
http://www.alligatorarmy.com
That last sentence was the first real smile I've had since, oh, about 3:00 CT or so.
"In case you're wondering what the offense should look like, that wasn't it." - Urban Meyer <-- HE SAID THIS ONCE A LONG TIME AGO I PROMISE
I am trying to think of something clever to hide the fact I am here to gloat.
Go noles!
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Meh. Gloat when you win another 5 in a row.
"In case you're wondering what the offense should look like, that wasn't it." - Urban Meyer <-- HE SAID THIS ONCE A LONG TIME AGO I PROMISE
Nah, I think we'll just gloat now, and every day until next year's beatdown in Gainesville.
"Hey, Moose! Rocco! Help the judge find his checkbook, will ya?"
We are working on it :)
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Nattylite is the official beer of the Noles
by ckah28 on Nov 27, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Damn. Was hoping you would just come out and say what you want to say. I haven’t the time needed to wait on a FSU fan while he thinks.
The Once and Future King
Wait
we think?
Haha. Self-imposed joke there.
by RoyalOaksNole on Nov 27, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
fireurbanmeyer.com?
Whose with me?
MileHighReport.com member since 02/06/07, promoted to "Position Coach" (i.e. new staff writer) on 02/16/10!
Not me. Let’s see what kind of changes are brought about after the season is officially over.
The Once and Future King
Gonna watch boxing tonight? Marquez v. Katsidis tonight!
http://www.firesteveaddazio.com
Fire Steve Addazio.
Yeah. Can’t wait. You gonna be watching it as well? I think the Aussie Katsidis might just win it.
The Once and Future King
I dunno, i just hope it’s awesome. Froch/Abraham was a snoozefest. If you want drop by Bad Left Hook later on… the thread is always hopping during a good fight.
http://www.firesteveaddazio.com
Fire Steve Addazio.
fire him? how about Meyer giving some money back?
Urban Meyer clearly DID NOT DO HIS JOB this year! If bonuses are paid for winning titles, how about giving back some cash for losing 5 games, including two full games with a combined total of 14 POINTS! (MSU & FSU) Give back $2 million for your total lack of performance, Coach! Maybe then you could see that Addazio threatens your job and the program.
by OldBallCoachFan on Nov 27, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
After the game Meyers said he had to go recruit better to get you back on top
You all had “the greatest recruiting class of all times” last year – that is not the problem – is he really clueless that your coaches are not developing the players and can’t scheme for $#!t
My question is
did UF recruit players who are just supposedly the most talented at their position and not pay any mind as to what system that player fits in? It’s like half of the players on offense are suited for one type of offense (like I-formation) and the other half is suited for the Spread.
It’s just mind-boggling how this incompetence was allowed to happen this year.
I really hope they fire both coordinators. Maybe even Meyer as well. Championships aside, the man has lost his fire.
And the game ball goes to...
The FSU grounds crew!
All their big pass plays happened when our guys slipped and fell. Rainey, Demps, and Burton all had big holes and fell making cuts. Maybe we should start FireTheEquipmentManager.com while we’re at it…
And I thought UF just got outplayed.
That makes much more sense.
I know that process is the focus, but I would really LOVE to see some results against UM and UF.
That makes sense.
A gator fan coming up with excuses. It could have been inept coaching in all aspects of the game.
Now y'all know how we felt with Jeffy.
by RoyalOaksNole on Nov 27, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
Oh but it is.... slightly
It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask you the questions.
by floundringaround on Nov 28, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
Except that they broke state laws to get Jeffy.
Double genius :/
I know that process is the focus, but I would really LOVE to see some results against UM and UF.
No keep him please
KeepSteveAdazio.com
class of 99
by xWd40x on Nov 27, 2010 9:52 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Thing is we could take him as an OC and it wouldn't hurt us nearly as badly because our Offense because our coach runs it.
I really would like end by saying we would never want him though because he would be dead weight on our extraordinary staff.
A wise polish man once said: If you don't look out for #1, you get a hand full of #2
by PalmAireNole on Nov 28, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
is it just me, or are other bewildered by
in 3 years of prep, this is the best they can prepare brantley?
have al the coaches spent the entire year pounding a round peg in a square hole?
can burton not throw overhand?
is our offense so complex, they don’t have anyone smart enough to run it?
who figured playing 3 qb’s with individual, limited repertoires would fool professional college coaches?
did urban’s health cause deeper problems than anyone really knows?
has losing strong, gonzalez, mattison, etc hurt our recruit evaluation more than we thought?
is meyer more stubborn than smart?
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Do I hear a dog whistle or is the gator nation gassy?
this is too funny, this is why it’s so fun to make fun of turds…rise and fall ladies! It happens to everybody, nothing in your fanny pack to prevent against it!
At least take it on the chin like a man…or go fake your death and contemplate retirement..all signs of a great higher learning institution! God Bless…
I dont even understand why you commented.
nothing you said has anything to do with this post or the overall feeling here on AA……but ok.
by silverstreak3k on Nov 27, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
Cool post bro
Your school is still next to a homeless shelter.
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 27, 2010 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
And the inside of your stadium is still painted up like a middle school gym.
But, no, seriously. Nice fucking parking garage you guys play in.
"The other day I... uh, no, that wasn't me." - Steven Wright
by O-Town Nole on Nov 28, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The multiple National Championship signs
in our middle school gym would like a word with you. They’d like to ask why you haven’t hung the “Ron Zook Field” sign yet.
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 28, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
Let me know when you don't have to back into a MNC game.
"The other day I... uh, no, that wasn't me." - Steven Wright
by O-Town Nole on Nov 28, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
Never once backed it to the National Title game. We’ve won the game before every time.
The Once and Future King
1996 --not so much
and you dont have an undeafted season
Got us there
so we’re 2-1 when it comes to “backing into” MNC games. We still won all three times we were in it. Which I suppose (just guessing here tho) that is WAY WORSE than backing into my CONFERENCE championship game; a conference that consists of two bowling pins, a stack of quarters and 9 plastic bags.
And WHAT is this out of nowhere OBSESSION with an undefeated season?? Who gives a flying F??? I’ll take 13-1 with a MNC every single year! I’ll say it again – Auburn was undefeated in ’04 and has nothing to show for it.
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 30, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
We won the game before. The SEC Title Game. That doesn’t count as backing into anything.
The Once and Future King
WE ALSO BEAT BACK-TO-BACK THE #1 TEAMS IN THE BCS, 2008!!!
Taking down #1 Alabama in the SEC champ game, then the NCAA’s highest scoring offense in #1 Oklahoma in the NC game.
And demolished the #1 team in 2006. So no backing in as far as I see…
Let me know when you
Don’t need NC-freakin-State to lose to back into the conference championship game for the weakest AQ conference in the country.
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 28, 2010 1:06 AM EST up reply actions
This year we're in and your not.
And if you want to talk about the past, when was the last time that UF went undefeated?
I know that process is the focus, but I would really LOVE to see some results against UM and UF.
Auburn went undefeated in 2004
No National Championships to show for it. Yawn. Come back when you’ve got some more powerful ammo.
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 28, 2010 1:50 AM EST up reply actions
McCarney to UNTx
Can he take Addazio w/him??
by Andrew Nordine on Nov 27, 2010 11:18 PM EST reply actions
Be careful about firing someone
I’m a Florida fan EXCEPT when they play FSU or LSU. Yes, Gators, this has not been a bad year, but it is probably a temporary setback. Remember, before you go after Urban’s head, just as we made a big mistake waiting too long to retire Bobby, you would be making a bigger, possibly, mistake, to get too down on Urban for one average season, even if you did deserve better.
Urban’s big mistake, as I see it, was in not seriously preparing a successor to Tim over the years — and his (and Gator fans) are paying big time for that mistake now. I believe, however, that one reasn Urban wien with the 3 QB rotation was to figure out who will be his QB next year, while trying desperately to make it harder for the opposing defenses to prepare. Only time will tell.
I’m looking forward to Urban and Jimbo being one of the premier coaching matchups, and UF-FSU again becoming “THE BIGGEST MINI-NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME IN FOOTBALL” for a lot of years to come. Remember how, in the 90’s, it was said that FSU and / or Florida played in a Game of the Century at least once each season.
Enjoy the off season folks.
You beat our worst team in 30 years. We’ll be back.
by Andrew Nordine on Nov 27, 2010 11:39 PM EST reply actions
You’ve won 6 in a row on a practically senile Bobby…..CONGRATULATIONS!!! We bring in a competent coach and he makes Urban look like an amateur. This mastermind was 17-1 against his rivals? No, 17-2. This is a joke of a blog, and you still think the last sentence is credible?? Do you all not have internet in your trailer parks? The Gators have been playing some of the worst Seminole teams in a long time the past few years. It’s a down year, but it’s also still a rivalry game.
You act like
This rivalry exists in a vacuum. Was every team on our schedule coached by senile old men those six years? How did we go 62-12 those six years and win two MNC’s if we were terrrible and taking advantage of your old coach?
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 28, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
No but your rivals have been terribly coached for the past 5 years...
So beating up on UT, FSU and UGA the past 5 years is not a real big feat.
A wise polish man once said: If you don't look out for #1, you get a hand full of #2
by PalmAireNole on Nov 28, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Still an awfully grounded argument
We still beat Alabama, Arkansas, LSU, Ohio State, one of the highest scoring NCAA teams ever in Oklahoma, do I need to go on? One of the years UGA was the MNC front-runner and we took them down. I award your argument zero points for having no connection to reality. Your team has sucked for the balance of this decade and we beat them, yes. The other teams we’ve beaten haven’t all sucked. In fact they were pretty damn good. As were we.
This year is a different story. You’re not that good. You have terrible losses and you’re sneaking into the weakest AQ conference championship thanks to a NCSt loss. We’re worse than you are. Just b/c you earned your way off the short bus doesn’t mean you should punch your ticket to gifted classes just yet.
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 28, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Your list can't go on...that is the list
The Arkansas win isn’t that impressive until this year IMO. Where your win against Alabama deserves a ton of respect, your main feat is beating LSU. I congratulate you guys on that. And your losses against them are just as impressive…5 4th down conversions. And beating OU and OSU was no small feat.
Nearly 30 % of Urbans wins have been against teams with suspect coaches…fsu UT, UGA. Basically all your big rivals have had big issues with coaching during his time.
It’s not awfully grounded argument, when you consider recruiting. when you consider you had the only competent coach in the state, and how that affects recruiting. You guys had your pick of the litter for nearly 10 years, now there is at least one school in the state that wants to fight for elite talent.
A wise polish man once said: If you don't look out for #1, you get a hand full of #2
by PalmAireNole on Nov 28, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
I guess those 2 national championships was Bobby Bowdens fault as well.
Good one dumb ass
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
You are stupid
Bobby quit coaching and playing an active role in the program after that NC. So yes congrats for beating up on a team without a HC for 10 years.
A wise polish man once said: If you don't look out for #1, you get a hand full of #2
by PalmAireNole on Nov 28, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Jesus christ
You can tell these FSU fans aren’t used to winning b/c they’re terrible at it. These are your arguments? You don’t see any similarities between what you laid out above and Urban’s team this year?
You beat the hollow shell of a team this year by being less worse than us. Congrats. I mean that with sincerity. Congrats on a solid win. Your players wanted it, knew this was their year and went to town. Enjoy. But dont get delusions of how fantastic you are. You still lost to NC State, NORTH CAROLINA WHO HAS HALF THE TEAM SUSPENDED and got thrashed by Oklahoma.
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 28, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
I see similarities...Was there any less gloating by you guys when you beat up on a team without a HC
We beat the piss out of team that had no heart.
Your arguments are very weak and your football knowledge even weaker. Our loss to UNC-they didn’t have half the team suspended when they played us. Pretty sure they only had a few guys out not 14 guys from the 2 deep defense like they did they nearly beat LSU. That UNC Defense we played would have a field day against your offense.
Loss to OU-yeah second game with a new defense against a team that runs the Hurry up…that’s where football knowledge comes in to play.
You got me on the NC state game, but hey you guys lost to MISS state.
Your main argument is that UF sucks terribly and that we beat a terrible team there fore we are just barely better dog crap. Yeah we manhandle a lesser opponent like good teams do. We beat a badly coached team (with all the talent in the world) the way you should…soundly.
I will be the first to say our team is not elite yet. But don’t discredit us by saying your team is garbage, and so is the team that just dominated you is trash at the curb. We beat you just as soundly as USC and Alabama did.
A wise polish man once said: If you don't look out for #1, you get a hand full of #2
by PalmAireNole on Nov 28, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Not that I would know, because I'm such a football DOLT
But if the “hurry up” was the only reason Oklahoma smoked FSU, plz do explain why Fisher seemed to be so scared of the endzone in that game?
Not that I even know how big a football field is (100ft? Seems big!) but I’m almost certain that OU’s secondary (What’s a secondary? is that the second half of the game?) is coached by Willie Martinez. Yes, that Willie Martinez from UGA; known for gaping passing lanes and defensive coverages that would make a pop warner coach giddy with excitement.
Plz do explain why OU’s D allowed only its second-lowest point total of the season (only better performances came vs Iowa State and Colorado – JUGGERNAUTS I TELL YOU) vs Fisher’s offensive powerhouse.
NOT THAT I WOULD EVEN KNOW ANYTHING I JUST SAID I’M A COMPLETE FOOTBALL RETARD
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 29, 2010 8:54 AM EST up reply actions
Christian Ponder injured his elbow badly that game...
Do you not know about OU Offense how it was “rebuilt”?…rebuilt with all the guys that were injured the previous year…
Not sure I understand your UNC argument…if that rhetorical question is your version of a argument. If their 2 deep is as good as anyone’s and they are missing 2 players from it when they play us. compared to 14 at the beginning of the year…
We lost our big time receiving threat during right before the season so trying to install two soph… to make up for him in one game would not bode well for an elite program like OU.
football is measured in yards not feet bourbon
Your argument about willie is great…except Bob Stoops is a great DB coach. Just like Jimbo Fisher is a great QB coach so despite us having a QB coach. Our HC is very involved with that aspect…
A wise polish man once said: If you don't look out for #1, you get a hand full of #2
by PalmAireNole on Nov 29, 2010 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
Hey 'noles, act like you've been there
OK, so we haven’t been there for a while, but show some class, instead of acting like gator fans wearing different colors.
Not these folks. Clearly they are of the younger generation, as in under the age of 20, and have never experienced a winning FSU team before.
The FSU fans of the 90’s would kick these current fans asses if they ever met them.
The Once and Future King
nolespankdegayturds: I’ve got a question for you.
So let me see if I understand this…You just beat your most hated rival for the first time since 2003, when they are having their worst season since 1979 and how to celebrate? Not by going out with friends, drinking, partying…no. What you apparently decide to do, is to create an account just to say ridiculous stuff after 11:00. Do you have any friends? Or a life?
Just curious is all.
The Once and Future King
Because the Seminoles were great the last five years?????????
Typical hypocritical gator. Seriously Ron Zook has the last win against a good FSU team. Spurrier against a great one. Take your licking like a man and the spear right up the ass.
So your shitty team beating our worst team in decades
Is a fantastic victory, but when we laid your asses out SIX YEARS IN A ROW, it was just because your “teams werent that good”?
SEMINOLE LOGIC, EVERYONE…SEMINOLE LOGIC. GREAT THINKERS.
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 28, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
First 9 win season since 2003…..Now remind me when was the last time the Seminoles beat the Gators? 2003. I think you are all to hurt to admit this FSU team has been clearly better than UF all season. Not surprised by the results of the game, just proud to be a Seminole. I’ve stuck by my seminoles through and through, you all want to abandon ship after one off season following 2 recent national championships. Urban is still young and has no excuse, unlike Bobby. The tides are starting to turn in the state of Florida real quickly….
Y’all have been better all season. Except at the beginning and that Oklahoma game, while we were beating up on Tenn, Kentucky…etc. Other than that…y’all have had the much better season. At the end of the day, y’all won (congrats) and get to play for a BCS Bowl. Much like we have the past few seasons.
Nobody is jumping ship though, maybe a bandwagon fan or two, but if you want them you can have them.
The Once and Future King
Wouldn't count that BCS bowl just yet...
VT isn’t going to be a cakewalk
It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask you the questions.
by floundringaround on Nov 28, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
I saw some stat tonight that said that FSU has won 13 of 14 against VaTech. Crazy.
The Once and Future King
Yeah I believe thats what it is
Someone on our boards said that he lives up there and the VT fans all wanted to play NC St because they feel like they can never beat us!
It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask you the questions.
by floundringaround on Nov 28, 2010 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
Ha. Yeah. One of my best friends is a VaTech grad and he texted me right after the NC State game was over and all he said was “Crap”
The Once and Future King
As long as all the players feel the same way
It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask you the questions.
by floundringaround on Nov 28, 2010 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
I dont think any Gator fan
Would deny how poor this team has been coached or the players executed on the field. Was FSU a better team all season? Debatable. Oklahoma thrashed you guys and, top to bottom, the ACC is probably the weakest AQ conference so your wins are suspect as well.
But tonight, FSU was vastly superior to the Gators. No doubt about that. As for the tides turning and this signaling a permanent change? Don’t start counting those W’s just yet fellas.
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 28, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
You sound like a middle schooler with a comment like that, are you some type of party animal or something? Judging by your picture of a cartoon dog, you must be. And what are you doing writing on this site SO late? Shouldn’t you be out at the bar in Gainesville making out with a girl missing 3 teeth?
Not a party animal, but I apparently know how to celebrate a big victory. Unlike y’all.
The Once and Future King
A big victory? I expected this. A big victory to me would mean a ranked opponent not that sorry excuse of a team that took the field today. I drove up from Miami at 5AM to make it up for the game in time. And unlike “y’all” I leave my game with a slamming headache cause I’ve haven’t stopped making the noise the whole game. So yes that is why I’m at home.
Again
You are on a rival’s blog, gloating about 18-22 year olds winning a football game. On a saturday night.
COOL STORY BRO
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 28, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
That’s what I’m saying. Back in the 90’s FSU knew how it was done…apparently the 10 years of losing has changed them.
The Once and Future King
I mean...
I’m 30, married and my wife and kid are asleep. What’s his excuse?
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 28, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
If a mutant barks on the internet
And no one pays attention….does he keep barking?
You sold me...queer giraffes.
Probably. He/she was doing it when nobody was here. Apparently he wants to get his rep and post count up.
The Once and Future King
MIAMI FAN MAKING GAY JOKE
No one is surprised.
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 28, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
why are you paying attention that hard?
…..interesting….
by silverstreak3k on Nov 28, 2010 4:27 AM EST up reply actions
Surprised
He could out-smart the captcha
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 28, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
Surprising...
I come on AA once in a while to post. Most of the time, respectful stuff. I am very surprised at the outcome of this game. I thought the gators were going to win by 10. If you compare players, UF obviously has the advantage on talent. No question. That’s why I thought the athletes were gonna win out today. But, it goes to show you…. Coaching is HUGE. UF was outcoached big time tonite and it showed. I can’t believe I spelled all this shit correctly (iPhone auto spell) bc I am smoked at the bar! don’t expect the same result next yr. Good work noles! time to get laid fellas.
by NoleSoulPole on Nov 28, 2010 12:37 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Coaching was the difference. I don’t really think that the players are all that much apart talent-wise, but the Jimbo Fisher crew seems like the real deal. Here is hoping that Stoops gets offered a head coaching gig. :)
The Once and Future King
UF
Has way more talent. Except at qb and center. I still can’t get over how bad pouncey played. Us Nole fans know how the lack of coaching can kill sick athletes. Thank fuckin god tebow is gone.
by NoleSoulPole on Nov 28, 2010 12:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The talent is there
Players did NOT execute. I think the coaches called a better game tonight than they have been. It really goes to show when our experienced defensive players are getting burned left & right and we can’t complete a pass. Brantley can’t pick up a blitz to save his life.
Glad this rivalry has some life once again.
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 28, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
nolespankdegayturds is not a representative for the rest of us Noles
Even at a team’s worst moments (regardless of if that team is the Gators), it is wrong to throw tact and respect entirely out the window. Disregard the stupidity of this individual. He/she doesn’t speak for the rest of us.
Team Gold - Winner of the 1st TN FSU Spring Football Fantasy Draft
Every fanbase has em
Good game, enjoy the victory and represent Florida well in Charlotte.
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 28, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
Next year, it'll hopefully be a great matchup
Not one of these lopsided victories for either team… let’s go back to the good ol’ days of thrilling last minute rivalry wins. It’s how this matchup should be!
Team Gold - Winner of the 1st TN FSU Spring Football Fantasy Draft
Much appreciated.
Good luck against them Hokies.
"I’ll tell you one thing: The grass at Tiger Stadium tastes best."
by LesMilesEatsGrass on Nov 28, 2010 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks! And your username is amazing!
Team Gold - Winner of the 1st TN FSU Spring Football Fantasy Draft
On a side note...
How the BBall team looking this year? Is the FSU/UF game gonna be a good one? and looking farther down the road, can you stand a chance against my Wildcats with Jones beasting up?
It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask you the questions.
by floundringaround on Nov 28, 2010 1:17 AM EST reply actions
The Gator BB team is like the football team. They are trying to discover who they are.
The Once and Future King
Fair enough
Should make an interesting season come SEC time. Is there a reason that UF/UK isn’t the last regular season game this year?
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by floundringaround on Nov 28, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions
I noticed that as well. It’s like the 3rd to last game or something for the Gators. And yeah, it should be a very interesting season. Tenn looks really good early as well.
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All he can't do is be on the sideline.
He can attend practices, travel with the team, talk to players/coaches before the game and at halftime…. theres quite a few loopholes in the “suspension”. Personally, I think the NCAA will impose even more later on.
It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask you the questions.
by floundringaround on Nov 28, 2010 1:29 AM EST reply actions
opps that was supposed to be a reply
It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask you the questions.
by floundringaround on Nov 28, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
I can't tell how sarcastic this post is supposed to be
It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask you the questions.
by floundringaround on Nov 28, 2010 1:40 AM EST up reply actions
Another board had a comment
Is it POSSIBLE that Coach Meyer hasn’t been HBC this year? Closed practices, the seemingly disengaged stance Coach has had on the sidelines, the unexplainable offense, and general malaise/ridiculous coach-speak in the press?
I am really wondering if CM actually DID resign last year and came back simply to hold together the recruiting class/save the assistant coach’s jobs.
I think that would be an easier pill to swallow than thinking Coach simply became horrible/blind/disinterested/whatever. I truly have never seen a team play this……disorganized, which isn’t even a word used to describe a football team. What are the chances of that, do you think?
It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask you the questions.
by floundringaround on Nov 28, 2010 1:37 AM EST reply actions
Wouldn't doubt that is true
I think thru Urbz’ history its been pretty clear that he may call the high-level shots but he is more of an eye for talent, both players and coaches. He has always left quite a bit up to his coordinators. Urbz is by nature a conservative, run-oriented Woody Hayes football coach. Mullen WAS the offense.
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by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 28, 2010 1:43 AM EST up reply actions
Amusing, Isn't It?
Florida State wins first game in this series in six years, and the Florida State fan races over to a Florida blog to taunt with some of the least creative stuff this side of Steve Addazio’s playbook.
There is a lot wrong with this team, and I’m sure there’s a lot of venom from Florida fans that I haven’t sought out. But I’m pretty happy that most of our frustration with this year has been with the obviously head-scratching play-calling, and has been vented with sighs and smirks rather than with more vicious stuff.
I would guess that there’s been a bunch of square pegs in round holes at UF since 2008: no one has quite been what Percy Harvin was; no single defender has been what Reggie Nelson was, despite Ahmad Black maximizing his talent; no linebacker replicated Brandon Spikes this year; Brantley isn’t Tebow, but neither are Reed or Burton; Addazio as OC has meant dropoffs in play-calling and in line coordination; the old Charlie CB blitzes have been a problem because there’s no Janoris to Janoris’ Haden on the other side. It was a dropoff, like we should have anticipated, but it seems more like every little flaw turned into a huge one.
This is what 2007 would have been like without Tebow and Harvin. It’s no shocker it sucked.
My heart breaks mostly for Brantley, who was as destined to be a Gator as Tebow was, and while it’s got to kill him that this has been such a disappointing year, there are more important issues for him to worry about.
But it heartens me that we mostly seem to trust that this is a blip based on youth and poor coaching, rather than a cliff-dive. And I hope we’re right.
In all kinds of weather and all that.
by Andy Hutchins on Nov 28, 2010 1:45 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Not me....
Just been frustrated for the last 71 years. Nah. It’s a modicum of respect. Y’all have smoked us so bad since 03 that someone who actually knows football and knows what goes into it…respects the team that kicks their ass year in and year out. I just hope we can bring the rivalry back to what it used to be. Btw- I just hogan leg dropped my boy from UF who said we wouldn’t win and he could outdrink me w a car Bom ….. He lost …. Bad
by NoleSoulPole on Nov 28, 2010 1:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Now, See, This?
I respect this. Good luck to y’all next week, even though I’ll be figuring out what the hell “Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, hi!” means.
by Andy Hutchins on Nov 28, 2010 2:21 AM EST up reply actions
But is there reason to believe it will be better next year? UF loses a lot.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 28, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
Im a….CrimiNOLE….badoop badoop badoop badoop….im a….CrimaNOLE.
If you're not a Gator, you're Gatorbait!
You know what’s strange to me? The Gator confidence poll on this site. After the MSU debacle I’ve never once voted more than the lowest percentage… however, it seems after every mediocre win we had, people forgot that we really had a sucky team with a sucky offensive coordinator and the confidence went up… why?
http://www.firesteveaddazio.com
Fire Steve Addazio.
My thought is that the people voting higher (not one of them, so…yeah) are the ones who are either slightly delusional, or at least confident that the Gators could get to a better bowl with the wins (and almost backed into the SECCG).
Slightly unrelated, hopefully for my sake they get anything except the Music City Bowl. I’d end up buying a ticket and going, and I can’t take that kind of pain.
by thatguyclint on Nov 28, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
What a night!
I grew up just 19 miles from FSU down in Wakulla county, and have been a die hard Nole since I can remember. I left FL in 1987 and after 22 years in the AF, I recenty retired. I have watched with both elation and disgust at the ups and downs of FSU football, especially the last 6 years. I can’t tell you how upsetting it was to watch the slide downhill from the great team I grew up with to watching FSU lose to the hated Gators in the sandbox. Some seasons the rest of the games didn’t matter as long as FSU beat the Gators.
Last night that all changed…………………..I think the Seminole Nation finally saw the light at the end of the tunnel. FSU and Jimbo Fisher flat outplayed the Gators, and that was a sight for sore eyes. Lets hope that we can use this victory as a catalyst for the future of FSU football. I am so looking forward to next years season even as we face VT in the ACC championship, and a good bowl game after that.
I am still a huge fan of Bobby Bowden, and I won’t get into all the drama of the past 6 years with the coaching, but I have to hand it to Jimbo. I don’t think there could have been a better replacement for Bobby, and look forward to seeing where Jimbo takes the team.
History is great, and my favorite quote is this: "Those that forget history are doomed to repeat it". But I hate to break it to the Gators, but you are only as good as your last game/season. Quit blaming the FSU grounds crew for slippery grounds, the refs for catching your dirty plays (we got caught for a few as well), and just face facts: you guys had a bad season. Look at your mistakes objectively, rebuild your team, and just admit that you got beat by a better team. Lets get this rivalry back to the days of old when National Championships depended on which FSU/UF team won.
On a side note: for a really good laugh check out some of the posts both FSU and Gator fans and some of the twitters from the Gator players. Next thing someone will be blaming aliens for the UF loss, and that it was all a massive conspiracy.
Once again thanks to a great FSU team last night, and for putting a smile on this old Florida boys face!
by commandpostman on Nov 28, 2010 11:25 AM EST reply actions
A tragedy is going to FSU?
A real tragedy is tryIng to be “Harvard of the South” in the SEC. It’s a moot point right now whether you graduate from UF or FSU for Florida employers( unless they care more about football than their company). The real tragedy is thinking that spending two years in a Gainesville community college to get accepted to UF makes you superior.
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!
Pretty far from accurate
UF outranks FSU in just about every academic category and significantly when you start talking about graduate schools. Admissions are harder, SAT averages are higher, starting salaries are higher.
Look, you won a football game b/c you were the better team. Don’t start blowing smoke up your own asses in every aspect of life.
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 28, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
There's no lies
UF is a good school. Not elite by any means, but good. The gap is a lot closer than you would believe. FSU had the equivalent of Bowden as a president, but things are changing. It is also true that 2 years in CC will get you in at UF. We aren’t talking about Harvard vs. A GED.
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by DownTownJax on Nov 28, 2010 3:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
A public ivy? GTFO
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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Yeah. UF wasn’t included on the original list of 10 that was released in 1985. But in 2001 the list was updated and included 30 schools. UF was one of them in the southeast region.
Just google public ivy and it will come up on hundreds of websites.
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LOL updated to 30 schools
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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I may not agree and I think its a touch silly
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 29, 2010 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
Bowl Game
Can we just pass on bowl offers this year to spare us more embarrassment?
GO GATORS
For any of you Bulldog fans who post on this site from time to time and operate under the delusion that the Georgia game is Florida’s BIG rivalry game – check out these posts – for pure venom nothing matches Gators-Seminoles.
And Gator fans – let us concentrate on the many and obvious problems at hand right now – between now and the bowl game – and let no one say "Wait till next year." That was part of the Gator fight song in the olden days before the ole ball coach got here. Let that attitude never return. Get better now. Use the time between now and the bowl game to hire new coaching and refocus.
HURRRRR
GAYTURDS BEAT SEMIN-HOES AT ROUNDBALL TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL
If only I cared about the bouncey ball I’d be happier.
You sold me...queer giraffes.
looked familiar
We have a great defense but our offense couldn’t run anything, let alone put the ball in the basket…
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by floundringaround on Nov 29, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
In other news
FSU may be on there way to solving their financial issues following the Gator’s trashing of the visitor locker rooms. I’m thinking FSU’s bill to UF will be $31.07, $3,107, or even $31,007. Looks like the Gators should have saved some of that toughness and tenacity for the football field.
You're kidding
did that really happen? I have a hard time believing that. Probably an exaggeration of a normal mess.
If that is the case though, that is really low and whatever coach allowed that should be ashamed.
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 29, 2010 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
From Twitter:
Visitor locker room damage rumors going around after UF have been “completely blown out of proportion.” Says one #FSU official. Locker room wasn’t left any differently than after any other game.
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 30, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
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