Florida Gators Notebook: UF hires Will Muschamp
by mlmintampa on Dec 12, 2010 11:25 AM EST
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Print- Pat Dooley calls the hiring of Will Muschamp as head coach "a great hire" and goes through Muschamp's bio. Muschamp's career has pretty much connected him to every major SEC program; spent part of his childhood in Gainesville, played at Georgia, coached at Auburn and LSU. While making the case that UF essentially hired Texas' future head coach, Dooley also notes that Muschamp's team was 5-7 this season.
- Dooley also has the first legitimate report that Urban Meyer resigned due to health issues. Writing in today's Gainesville Sun, Dooley says, "Meyer was told by doctors last week that the symptoms he continues to experience — including burning sensations in his chest — would raise his cardiovascular risk factors, so he decided it necessitated his resignation, according to the source. Meyer had been told a year ago that if his symptoms continued it would increase his cardiovascular risks if he kept coaching." Assuming this is accurate, and we have absolutely no reason to believe it isn't accurate, Meyer's health problems have been worse than previously reported. It also confirms that the rumors of heart problems were fairly accurate. It also says something about men's health; if you are in your 40s and 50s, you really need to see a doctor once a year. Don't be a tough guy and think you can fight off that nagging pain.
- Andy Staples, a former Gator walkon, notes that one bad season at Texas took the shine off Muschamp. But Jeremy Foley felt that Muschamp was still a great coach and had the ability to run an elite program. Staples also tells the story of Muschamp going to UF to inquire about playing as a walkon, only to be stiffed by a Gators staff member.
- The Sun's Ed Aschoff is sticking with the report that Major Applewhite will be the offensive coordinator. There are still rumors that other names are available, but Aschoff's report lends legitimacy to this story.
- If you're not excited about Applewhite, the Tuscaloosa News reports that Muschamp is targeting Alabama defensive coordinator Kirby Smart for the same position at UF. Last season, Muschamp and Smart were among the highest paid coordinators, both earning in the high triple figures.
- Florida defensive coordinator Teryl Austin told the Palm Beach Post that he would like to stay on in Gainesville. It is also apparent that while UF took the time to create a very developed release announcing the hire of Muschamp, they didn't take the time to tell their coaches still under contract. Although the release says Muschamp is a "One-time Gainesville native" which is absolutely dumb. You can't be a one-time native. You are a native or a resident. I can't express how much that headline annoyed me.
- The Austin American-Statesman says that Texas was stunned by Florida's hiring of Muschamp. There is also no word if UF contacted Texas officials before speaking with Muschamp, which they would have done if Muschamp was a head coach. What is clear is that Muschamp's Texas contract, while doubled when he was named coach-in-waiting, contained no buyouts or timeline for becoming a head coach. We think of Jimbo Fisher's coach-in-waiting contract at FSU, but Texas did not have the same thinking because they were not trying to force out their head coach like FSU was.
- Finally, wasn't the 30 for 30 film last night about SMU totally awesome?
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Take care of yourself Urban
Heart issues are a big deal. I’m no spring chicken and have heard too many stories of how this guy or that guy who never saw a doctor and worked real hard dropped dead without warning in his fifties. Again, Urban did the right thing. With two NCs in three years he has nothing to prove. Time to give back to the family that has supported him.
by htrcooler on Dec 12, 2010 11:50 AM EST via mobile reply actions
We must embrace
Let’s not run this one out of town, hmm?
Can’t wait to see the OC hire. Almost more critical than Muschamp himself. Ultimately, Muschamp bring the fire & passion Meyer had in his first year. Urbz lost that and I think his character was reflected in the team.
"Did you spill the whisky? You did, didn’t you? Okay, go ahead and eat the floormats."
Kirby Smart or Austin?
I’ll take Kirby any day over Austin.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
I third it. But, I think a OC is far more important then the DC. Did you see our offense last season? Our Defense was pretty damn good.
If you're not a Gator, you're Gatorbait!
Not even close
Nothing against Austin, but Smart is the more attractive option.
I am not sure why he would make a lateral move from Bama to UF.
I am hoping the Applewhite rumor is another worthless shot in the dark. So far, the media and “inside sources” have been so far off, I don’t even pay attention to them anymore.
At least we have something to be excited about. Imagine if Meyer had stayed retired last year. We might be facing another year of Addazio right now!!
I don't know why he would either
I would be ok with Austin staying and Will helping him out. An NFL mind combined with a College mind could be the better combination…Who knows?
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
Charlie Strong or Smart
Would not have let MSU run against us for the equivalent of 40 straight times…
Disagree...
Neither Strong or Smart (much less anybody else) has control over what plays the opposing sideline is going to dial up…
MSU runs the ball that much all the time bvecause they can’t throw it…
You may not like what I have to say...but somebody has to say it...
if smart comes
he won’t be here long, he’ll be a hc somewhere
so i favor hiring coordinators that will be around for a while
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Stealing Smart from the Bammeroids will only be the beginning as the staff is assembled...
Expecting to see some great position hires…
You may not like what I have to say...but somebody has to say it...
Love Kirby Smart...
…but he is a clone of Muschamp. Just wonder how 2 DCs are neccesary. Couldn’t Muschamp find a up and coming position coach and train him, like Sabam did to Muschamp and Smart. I like Kirby right where he is….Tuscaloosa.
And Applewhite, you talk about flipping a coin…geez,
I agree. I would rather keep Austin and lose out on smart then hire Applewhite and lose out on the OK State OC.
If you're not a Gator, you're Gatorbait!
Disagree...
With Muschamp & Smart, the defense will be so good the offense would only need to score 7-10 points a game…
You may not like what I have to say...but somebody has to say it...
I am not a fan of winning ugly
I like to win, but winning ugly almost feels like losing most times.
Get out of my House!
There's a difference between winning ugly...
And winning on incredibly nasty defense with a grind it out low scoring O…
You may not like what I have to say...but somebody has to say it...
Yeah
I mean I can take 20 points a game but when we start talking about 14 points being the most we can put up, we better have an amazing defense or else we’ll get beat more often than not by good teams.
but I did love the 2006 team, I loved the 2008 team too, but my favorite is still the 1995 and 1996 teams, talk about great defense and great offense. If only that 95 team knew how to stop the freaking option though.
Get out of my House!
Kirby Smart
Non Florida fan here. Congratulations on what’s probably a good hire. But I don’t know why Smart would leave Bama. He’s already a DC under a defensive oriented HC. Why would he leave to go to a more uncertain situation.
He had the chance to go to UGA last year and be in complete control of the defense. They threw a crap ton of money at him. At his alma mater no less. There was talk last year that Saban had told him he had his blessing if it was a move up, but not a lateral move and this is just that, a lateral move.
I just don’t see why he would leave for an identical (but uncertain, all new coaches are question marks) position. He’s already set himself up for the UGA job (if he wants it) or any other good job. It just doesn’t make sense to me.
It doesn't make much sense
It just fun to speculate, maybe because Kirby and Will are best buddy’s. lol
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
The reason he could come here
is because Muschamp is one of his best friends so he would enjoy to work with him. If UF could get him that would only help solidify the team especially in the eyes of recruiting, but I agree with most I care the most about getting an OC who is ready to turn this offense around.
The offense is already in the right track now that Addazio is out of the picture.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
by Hook85 on Dec 12, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Congrats on Muschamp. Liked him at Auburn with only one complaint -
his DB’s never looked for the ball. But, he was always so exciting to watch! Best wishes to Meyer.
STEVE ADDAZIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IS GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BYE BYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i love Will Muschamp already, hell I met marry him.
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Just noticed this...
You are a native or a resident.
A person can be both…I am a Florida native and resident…
You may not like what I have to say...but somebody has to say it...
But you can’t be a “one-time native”. If you’re a native, you are always a native.
mlmintampa
UF C/O 06
http://www.alligatorarmy.com
Born again
My Florida Cracker wife might disagree, but
Anyone can become a native by being baptized with the orange and blue in The Swamp.
In a physical sense
Mlm is right, in that weird fanatical sense, I can see your wife’s point. I tend to leave God in my heart and not mired in the whimisical worldly passions such as football, dare I say.
Get out of my House!
Fully agree there...
Perhaps just getting a little over finicky on your choice of words, bro…
You may not like what I have to say...but somebody has to say it...
i like teryl austin
he did a great job with the secondary this year , me if we get smarts i would put him as DC and make teryl austin and chuck heaters the secondary/safety coaches .
Mike Gillislee #23 ''THE BEAST''
Teryl will probably go back to the NFL to be a DB coach
I like him too, but we gotta bring in Coach Muschamp’s own staff.
I’d love to keep Teryl and definitely Chuck Heater.
While were at it maybe we can keep at Urban Meyer on as Special Teams coach
That way he can still be here at UF but not be so committed…
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
Gainesville Native
Headline on original release on gatorzone.com has changed to " One-time Gainesville resident" from the original “native” headline
Yuh...
Posted that in a comment over at TommyFlop…
They didn’t like that too much…
Was replied to with a reference to Jimbo engaging in forceful anal sex with Will…
Seems to be a common trend over there…
You may not like what I have to say...but somebody has to say it...
LMAO...Now it looks like I got banned and had my comments removed...
I’ll wear the censorship & violation of my first admendment freedom of speech rights like a badge of honor though…
You may not like what I have to say...but somebody has to say it...
You don't have first amendment freedoms on a website run by a private company or individual.
That isn’t a shot at you. But it is important to consider since I have banned more people in the last few weeks than the previous four years of this site for abusive and vulgar language. I don’t expect everyone to write like a priest, but you should write as if you are talking to people in normal society or in the office.
mlmintampa
UF C/O 06
http://www.alligatorarmy.com
Meh...my comments contained no abusive or vulgar language, mlm...
FlaGators can verify that, I believe…
Someone made the comment that UF had embarrassed them in football over the last six years and I simply pointed out that the Gators had been embarrassing them in football alot longer than those six years…As well as owning them in every other sport with the exception of baseball…
At that point their posters were the ones that responded withthe typical ‘d-bag’, ‘d!ck’, etc…
I make a point NEVER to result to name calling and personal attacks when commenting as that is the sure sign that you have lost the argument…
You may not like what I have to say...but somebody has to say it...
On top of that...
It’s common habit over there for Elliott to ban people that don’t agree with him or rattle their cage too much…
You may not like what I have to say...but somebody has to say it...
He banned a person or two last night as well. Just for the night, said they were in time out. And another person was warned before I just said forget it and decided to log off before everyone starts yelling.
The Once and Future King
Meh...should I really want to comment over there...
I have ways around it…
You may not like what I have to say...but somebody has to say it...
Yeah. I don’t remember seeing anything that was like that from you, but that is why I didn’t say anything in that conversation or really pay attention to it. It’s better to just ignore those types of comments and not say anything back. It keeps the collateral damage to a minimum. I only respond to the comments that are fair and or interesting on both sides.
The Once and Future King
Yeah...it admittedly had a bit of a tweak to it...
But in no way the flame thrower I would use here…
One of the bigger problems over there is that they can’t take a shot back across the bow…
Not like here where mlm will let the other side speak it’s mind…
You may not like what I have to say...but somebody has to say it...
And actually I do have my first amendment rights there, mlm...
As I can still speak my mind without fear of arrest or persecution…but said company or individual also has the right to remove my comments if they desire…
You may not like what I have to say...but somebody has to say it...
Though it makes them look lame and small...
You may not like what I have to say...but somebody has to say it...
Did Anyone else notice
That the 30 for 30 documentary was a bunch of self serving crap?
Was it compelling? yes
Was it scandalous? yes
Was it eye opening? yes
What it also was, was deflecting of blame. It lay blame squarely on an SMU booster who WOULD NOT COMMENT and a former Texas Governor who has since passed away.
The Lyle Leong Bandwagon will Continue to Roll!!!
Arriba sus Pistolas, Muchachos!
by Tortilla Pirate on Dec 13, 2010 4:27 PM EST reply actions
SMU booster who WOULD NOT COMMENT = Sean McCorkle
The Lyle Leong Bandwagon will Continue to Roll!!!
Arriba sus Pistolas, Muchachos!
by Tortilla Pirate on Dec 13, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not really sure why you’re so amped up about this, but I don’t think many people have taken the same view. (If anything, it glamorized SMU in the same way that the 30 for 30 “The U” glamorized Miami in the 80s.) The blame was laid on the boosters, athletic department and school board of governors. The boosters for paying the players and the athletic department and governors for knowing about it and allowing it to happen.
The Texas governor, Bill Clements, looks bad because he allowed the pay-for-play to happen (as an SMU board governor) and continue, which brought the death penalty as a repeat offender. Clements only admitted to the scheme after he was reelected. As a villain, this makes him an easy mark. He gets the political post, while SMU football dies behind him.
Also, the SMU booster who wouldn’t comment was Sherwood Blount. He was the one who said SMU had “a payroll to meet,” which became the name of the book about SMU in the 1980s. I was surprised at how many other boosters were willing to be on camera.
mlmintampa
UF C/O 06
http://www.alligatorarmy.com
Was just going to say it was Sherwood Blount.
And yeah, it was crazy how many boosters came on there, and most of the players who were “guilty” as well. Very well done.
The Once and Future King
and yes
it was Sherwood Blount
The Lyle Leong Bandwagon will Continue to Roll!!!
Arriba sus Pistolas, Muchachos!
by Tortilla Pirate on Dec 14, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Im just a little skeptical, that's all
(not so mush amped up) because as we all know here in Texas…..Craig James is planning to run for office here.
Its no coincidence that the people that were made “easy marks” and were easily cast were a sleazy Texas Politician, a shadowy booster, and a drug addled deceased player with an ax to grind.
It was also no coincidence that at the end of the story, when the renaissance of the program is being touted, Craig James says, “The program is calling us to come back telling us (James and Dickerson), ‘you did nothing wrong’”. REALLY?!?!? After the story about the TransAm? After he and dickerson were the two LARGEST fish the boosters/program EVER landed? We are supposed to believe they did nothing wrong? I dont think so.
The Lyle Leong Bandwagon will Continue to Roll!!!
Arriba sus Pistolas, Muchachos!
by Tortilla Pirate on Dec 14, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
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