Who will be Florida's quarterback next season?
by mlmintampa on Dec 15, 2010 12:21 AM EST
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PrintWill Muschamp seems like a fine gentlemen and someone who can lead the Gators to victories without developing a heart condition. But I was a bit concerned that when Muschamp was asked about who would be quarterback next season, he said he would look at the roster. I understand that Muschamp has had the job for three days, but the quarterback at Florida is kinda big deal. For everything Muschamp laid out during his press conference, he was the least forthcoming on anything related to John Brantley.
Perhaps I am getting too far ahead, but aside from talking about a coordinator with pro experience and running a "balanced" and "pro-style" offense, Muschamp did not reveal much. Which brings us to something else he said; between now and the Outback Bowl, he will be evaluating the team. He does this following the emergence of Trey Burton, Jordan Reed proving his worth, Jeff Driskel confirming his commitment to UF and Brantley implying that he is considering a future that does not include UF.
If you have been reading Alligator Army this season, you know that I was a big Brantley backer, until it became obvious he couldn't function in the offense. I blamed the coaches for a large share of his problems and thought Brantley should transfer, to prevent himself from playing the spread. Now, it is almost unfair that he is playing for a job under Muschamp by continuing to run an offense that never fit him.
I would like to see Brantley stick around for a pro-style coordinator, but I can't blame Muschamp if he decides to go in a different direction at quarterback. If Brantley does transfer, it answers part of Muschamp's open ended comment from the press conference. If not, I think Brantley could be the guy next year.
What do you say?
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Would love to see JB stick around
I think the New Ball Coach was just trying to be careful to keep the focus on Urban and the upcoming bowl game, since I guess it’s not technically “his team” until January 2nd? I don’t know that I’d read much into him not having looked at the roster, as he claimed. Now Brantley saying he’s going to talk with his family about what’s best for his future… that concerns me. I just think he needs a chance to run the offense from the pocket, not running for his life. Hopefully we’ll get to see that, because as highly touted as Driskel is, I don’t see a true freshman as the starting quarterback at Florida running through Alabama, LSU, and Auburn in consecutive weeks and surviving, and Burton\Reed don’t really exude “pro-style” quarterback.
I just think Brantley’s our best bet at winning next season with the right OC in place. The kid wasn’t a Gatorade National Player of the Year because of his running ability…
Right
He was a Gatorade POY b/c he basically played against Pop Warner teams. Take a look at the league Trinity was in – all the teams ran the damn single wing until Kerwin showed up there and started bombing it down the field against D’s that weren’t prepared for that.
Johnny could be great at a smaller scale program like Jacksonville or Delaware. Next year is going to be VERY rocky for us as we install a new offensive system. Even if it is more tailored to JB’s strengths his future would still probably be better served by taking his talents to a program that suits his strengths but is already established.
I for one welcome our new BOOM MF'ER overlord.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 15, 2010 7:36 AM EST up reply actions
He was being diplomatic
I think it is unfair to criticize him for this. He was being diplomatic. He hasn’t even practiced with the team yet. So, he has no place announcing anything about specific players. Also, remember that he was involved in recruiting Brantley to Texas, so he knows all about him. I suspect this could mean that Brantley could stay around; I am not convinced that Brantley can play in ANY offensive style — except for high school. We shall see.
you sure about that?
Muschamp didn’t arrive at Texas until ’08. Brantley was recruited to UF during 06 with 07 being his first year.
I for one welcome our new BOOM MF'ER overlord.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 15, 2010 7:39 AM EST up reply actions
I got the sense
that he was actually referring to talking to Brown and Davis about Brantley prior to his hire to UF about his recruitment and not exactly being involved in recruiting him.
I already know one Gator great who has problems with word connections when public speaking, Emmitt Smith, I think I can give this guy the benefit of the doubt that he merely fumbled through that.
Get out of my House!
well since we might be moving to the pro-style offense
it’s gonna be Brantley, he’s best suited for the job
Mathew 19:26 "With God, all things are possible"
There is no way to know
based on what Muschamp gave us in the presser. I agree with the comments above about him being diplomatic, and the fact that it’s not even his team yet. I do find Brantley’s comments a little….ill timed. I mean I get it, and I understand why he’s saying the things he is, but why finally admit that you hate the offense right before Meyer’s last game? He’s been the good soldier throughout his time here, even though many of us suspected that he was less than pleased, so why change your tune now?
I would not be shocked to see Muschamp take advantage of probably his only “grace period” in year 1, and start Driskell as a freshman.
Driskel
is the real deal. If JB transfers I would like to do what the 06 team did…a Leak/Tebow combo with Reed/Driskel. Continue to use Trey as an Athlete position, but stop the nonesense of him lining up at QB and having him run it up the middle everytime, or every once in awhile throw in an option. That wasnt obvious.
If you're not a Gator, you're Gatorbait!
relax
any coach that started reordering the depth chart, without coordinators, three days after getting the job, without seeing tape on the players, and at a press conference would probably not be a very good coach.
He's a Defensive Guy, remember?
He very much reiterated that at the press conference. He didn’t get into a very specific discussions of his offensive/defensive philosophy, he just talked generalities, which I suppose is to be expected from a first-time head coach. Plus it would be wrong to state what system he plans to run until he hires the OC who will actually be in charge of doing so.
Bottom line: he’ll run the program and may have a more involved hand on the defensive side of the ball. He will hire a special teams coordinator because he’s not a special teams guy. And he’ll hire an OC who will ostensibly have the ability to decide how he wants to run the offense. Brantley, Reed, Burton, Murphy and Driskel will apparently have to wait, like the rest of us, to find out what the UF offense will look like next year…
he's a defensive guy alright
but the question is, will he turn into shannon (flop as NC) or stoops (good as HC)
being cautious about commenting on a legacy qb before evaluating him personally and w/o an OC
is just not smart
i’m glad he minced his words on this unfair question
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
to continue your comparison...
Stoops looks pretty good in retrospect because Mike Leach, Mangino and Kevin Wilson have called his offensive plays over the years…Shannon had…Mark Whipple? i don’t think we actually disagree on much here…I certainly agree that based on the pedigree of the quarterback it’s better to hold one’s tongue (particularly since the current coaching staff still has control of the team until the bowl is over).
The OC choice
In your comparison is also affected by the league that coach played in. The Big 12 is an offense-oriented conference and the OC was much more critical. Not to say that the OC hire in our situation isn’t critical; it is. But in the SEC if we’re able to hold our opponents to 17 points or less, I think we’ll win 9-10 games pretty easily. 17 points should be easily achievable with a new OC and the occasional defensive/ST TD
At war with the concept of the Venn Diagram
by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 16, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
We sure are quick to forget...
Brantley throwing an uncatchable mile high missile on 4th and goal in the Georgia game. Or Reed getting us in the redzone against FSU just to have Johnny throw a pick on his first pass to THREE defenders. Not to mention the underthrown flea flicker that was saved by Rainey who pulled it off as he was getting throat hacked against Vandy!
My Point is this: Brantley had the whole season to prove it to us. Granted bad O-line and Addazio’s dive-a-thon and Johnny Option….but if you watched the games as carefully as I did, you’d see how often he was overthrowing or off target.
Bring on Driskel! New coach, New QB, New Era!
jb was here for three years
no excuse for the mismatch of talent and plan that we had this year
and that is on urban
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
He should transfer to univ of maine
If you're not a Gator, you're Gatorbait!
by Gators1 on Dec 15, 2010 6:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Lol exactly. He might as well join the CFL.
If you're not a Gator, you're Gatorbait!
by Gators1 on Dec 15, 2010 11:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The rumor is Delaware
Not as far but much much more pedestrian and bleak.
At war with the concept of the Venn Diagram
by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 16, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
That wont happen. They have pat devlin the 5 star penn state transfer. JB wouldnt win it over him.
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by Gators1 on Dec 17, 2010 7:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Devlin Graduates this year
Flacco’s success in the NFL makes people think Delaware is a great place to matriculate on up to the NFL at the QB position.
The problem is that Harvard, East Carolina, Northern Iowa, etc all have QBs in the NFL in the top 32 positions.
The truth is that USC, Michigan, Purdue, and Boston College are the only schools with more than one QB in the top QB positions in the NFL.
This is a crapshoot, at best. Florida, Florida State, Miami, Alabama, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Penn State, and, frankly, 85% of the top 40 schools in the country aren’t represented at top QB in the NFL.
Just Sayin.
By the Way, Hope you play well in the Bowl Game.
But just not enough to beat the Nittany Lions!
Elizabeth, with Vin Scully, only folks working longer than JoePA at same place!
by joefromboalsburg on Dec 17, 2010 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
Your right. I thought he was a Junior. But yep hes a Senior. Maybe Deleware is his best option
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by Gators1 on Dec 18, 2010 1:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I couldn't vote...
Since there was no option for “Don’t give a damn who the hell starts back there as long as the offense doesn’t look like a bunch of monkeys trying to molest a coconut.”
You may not like what I have to say...but somebody has to say it...
i guess you guys think pass blocking is an admirable skill
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Pass blocking would have won us a few moe games this year
and Pouncey not trying to see if he can surprise Johnny with snap.
-“Hey Carl, do you think I can catch em off guard this time?”
-“I don’t know it’s worth a shot, give em a reason to run around a bit more, (chuckles).”
Get out of my House!
What is this "Pass Blocking" you speak of?
Is it some kind of new fangled football idea that you could have passed on to Addazio?
You may not like what I have to say...but somebody has to say it...
My guess would be either
Driskel or Brantley. Myself, I somewhat hoping that Driskel starts.
12/8/10- The day Urban Meyer resigned as coach and the day Crawford signed with the Suxs. One of the worst days in sports ever!
QB 2011-13
What is Driskel’s QB rating in the SEC?
Reed’s is127 without practicing the position. Meyer tossed him in out of desperation and then limited his play options. He was a pro style in high school with some option . His first pass was a 31 yd corner fade with no pre-game warm up. He put the ball in the only spot where it could have been caught. He described where he put it after the game from memory.
Brantley was gonna tear it up based on High School in August. How did that pan out? Don’t look at the plays where he was rushed look at his ability to hit the open man where he could catch the football and come down alive when he was not rushed. Poor placement time and again, high throws, late delivery and wrong receiver. Same looping drop delivery as Tebow.
Reed’s passing is actually better than Brantley’s because he throws the ball as well as it can be thrown. There is no gain with Driskel . Reed is proven passer and runner in the SEC.
What is really funny is the lack of noticing Tyler Murphy’s presence. Smartest QB on the roster. Killer arm and great foot work and ball handling. You see Pro-Style requires foot work, balance, poise, deception and passing. Wouldn’t surprise me to see Reed and Murphy for two more years. Then Driskel. The O line ain’t gonna be a whole lot better next year. You will need Reeds toughness ( Driskel is a shell of J. Reed) and Murphy’s smarts and speed to get out side and throw when the rush breaks down
There isn’t going to be any longer to think back there. Goodbby John and good luck.
STANDING OVATION!!!
(even if I want Driskel starting) I’m a big supporter of Reed and Murphy. Johnny was too busy texting to listen to his new HC’s plans anyway…
by GoGators82 on Dec 19, 2010 12:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
All the talk of entitlement at the beginning of the season, and it’s looking more and more like the fingers needed to be pointed at JB.
by Andrew Nordine on Dec 19, 2010 10:07 PM EST reply actions
JB ??? Driskel??? Reed????
You SEC/Gator fans don’t spend much time learning about QB and it makes for fun. This may be because you have to have an IQ over dull normal to play the position. You had Cam Newton and you now have J. Reed both black….yet you yield to the temptation that a great white hope will again arise in Jeff Driskel.
give Reed the ball…….next Heisman
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