ESPN says Charlie Weis targeted to be Florida offensive coordinator
by mlmintampa on Dec 31, 2010 2:46 PM EST
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PrintESPN has talked to two sources that say Charlie Weis, the former Notre Dame coach and current Kansas City Chiefs coordinator, will be the offensive coordinator under Will Muschamp at Florida. Weis would would bring a pro-style offense and as former New England coordinator, would come highly suggested from Urban Meyer's friend Bill Belichick.
The sources tell ESPN that Weis would take the job, but remain with the Chiefs until they are eliminated from the playoffs. Chiefs coach Todd Haley would not comment on the report.
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That Josh McDaniels worked better with Matt Cassel in New England than Charlie Weis has been. Also, Weis & Healy don’t get along well.
I don’t get it either, I think Weis & BOOM will clash as well. Weis also doesn’t strike me as the type of recruiter we need. Simply waving Super Bowl rings around might not do the trick.
But, seeing what he’s able to do with a roster chock full of 4 & 5 star talent will be interesting.
All this said, I don’t think it’ll happen. All the “Sources” lead back to Dooley from the Gville Sun.
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by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 31, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
The reporter who is behind that story is clearly on some sort of narcotic.
The Chiefs was from 4-12, third from last, to 10-6 and in the playoffs with Weis directing Cassel.
The Pats went from 16-0 to 11-5 and missed the playoffs with McD guiding him
Also, personal stats >
YEAR TEAM G CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM RAT
2008 NE 16 327 516 63.4 3693 7.2 21 76 11 5 89.4
2010 KC 15 262 450 58.2 3116 6.9 27 75 7 2 93.0
Completion percentage notwithstanding, his year this year is WAY better.
Small useless fact – the Chiefs are 2-4 vs their division, 8-2 vs the rest. They might not be such a joke in the playoffs.
Yeah, me thinks this is pretty much a done deal.
http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/Headlines.aspx?sport=NFL&hl=197338
Guess it could be worse.
The Once and Future King
i dont see how it could be much better
he hired an experienced OC guy that has proven the ability to get the most out of his players. love the hire.
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5.
by silverstreak3k on Dec 31, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah. Very true. When I first read of the idea a couple of days ago…I didn’t think there was a chance in heck of it happening.
The Once and Future King
yea
most people will look at it and maybe think its not a good hire based on his work at ND, but i believe he had a lot of defensive problems there, and still took that team to 3 bowl games. plus he has the much lower stress of just being an oc. i mean after steve, this is like a miracle! haha
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5.
by silverstreak3k on Dec 31, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
really?
seems to me he lost the nd job because he could not get the most out of his guys
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
He lost the ND job because they (ND) still think it is 1962. They think they are still an elite program. When in reality they are a 6-7 win team at best year in and year out.
2005: 9–3 L Fiesta
2006: 10–3 L Sugar
2007: 3–9
2008 : 7-6 W Hawaiʻi
2009 : 6–6
The Once and Future King
thats two
bcs bowls btw.
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5.
by silverstreak3k on Dec 31, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
BCS rules
were a lil diff, if I recall. They were guaranteed a BCS bowl if they were ranked or something asinine like that.
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by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 31, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
the gators are guaranteed a bcs bowl game
if they do well and are ranked high enough….whats your point?
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5.
by silverstreak3k on Dec 31, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure if serious
To get to a BCS bowl a SEC team has to either win the SEC and/or finish ranked in the top 14. As an independent Notre Dame gets a BCS bowl for being ranked, no matter how deserving or what their schedule looked like or winning a conference, nothing. ND had no business in a BCS game for several years in a row and got humiliated.
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by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 31, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Notre Dame gets an automatic BCS berth if they are ranked 8th in the final BCS standings.
The Once and Future King
ahh
Thats not as bad as I thought. I guess it was just a matter of being way over ranked for too long and not playing any difficult teams during the season.
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by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 31, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
and basically
uf gets an auto bid if ranked 8th….not too much of a difference.
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5.
by silverstreak3k on Dec 31, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
also if you start off with not sure if serious you should always put
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5.
by silverstreak3k on Dec 31, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
oh yea
that’s my go-to but folks here seem to be a bit light on using pics, so I don’t really bother.
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by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 31, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
i try my best to post the good ones
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5.
by silverstreak3k on Dec 31, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah. The only one I found was like two and a half years ago…it involved a woman, a champagne bottle, the busting of the cork…and me getting banned for 2 years from SB Nation.
The Once and Future King
ha!
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5.
by silverstreak3k on Dec 31, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Yep. And the only blog that counts my original sign-up is this one. All the others…made me re-apply this summer…etc.
The Once and Future King
That is epic
Need to stick to EDSBS. Its the wild west
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by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 31, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
Still hard to call it
“a done deal”. Referencing the same report from Mortenson that references the same Dooley post.
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by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 31, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
I fear that any worth Weis once had has been lost to NFL-aids and Notre Dame-syphillis,
but I hope I’m wrong… Regardless, he’s not Addazio, so I won’t complain.
"Evacuate in our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances." - Mack Brown, Pasadena, circa early 2010.
he did really well last year with the chiefs
arent they primed for a playoff spot for the first time in a decade or something?
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5.
by silverstreak3k on Dec 31, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
This year…his only year with the KC Chiefs…
KC is 9th in total offense. 11th in PPG. 1st in rushing. 28th in passing.
The Once and Future King
well the year was almost over
thats why i said “last year” but i think those numbers are pretty good for a team that doesnt have any real talent away from the RB position. (still think cassel is over-rated)
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5.
by silverstreak3k on Dec 31, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Totally agree. The only reason why Cassel is even there is because the HC is that dude that was hired from NE.
The Once and Future King
Just to set the record straight, Cassel was brought to KC because he was due for a pay raise after a breakout 2008 season and KC needed a franchise type quarterback.
Scott Pioli, former Pats head of player personnel, was hired away to be the Chiefs’ GM
It was Pioli who brought him there, not any coaches.
KC in 2009
25th in total offense
23 in ppg
11th in rushing
25 in passing
just saying – improvement in ALL areas of the offensive game, and by large amounts
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5.
by silverstreak3k on Dec 31, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yep. Except for passing though. But KC has never really been a passing team.
The Once and Future King
ah yes
missed that one. i think thats cuz of cassell…..thats my take and im sticking to it haha
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5.
by silverstreak3k on Dec 31, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Umm, Cassel has thrown 27 TDs vs 5 picks.
He’s not throwing for 300 yards per game, but he is also not playing in a dome or in Florida.
They have a backfield that has a shot at having two 1,000 yard rushers. They play in KC. They have no need for a Manning type of player.
Now, look at Cassel’s stats now vs when he played on the Pats’ juggernaut offense. Much better now.
It begs the question – is Cassel that good ? Can he be a “system qb” when he’s had success in two different systems ?
Or, is Charlie Weis that damn good at running an offense.
They (KC) has the 25th ranked passing attack. That’s all we were talking about.
The Once and Future King
I think Charlie Weis’ passing attack speaks for itself, in spite of this year’s “low numbers”
by GatorPhoenix on Jan 2, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Am I the only one who thinks his would be an unmitigated disaster?
The guy is insufferably arrogant, underperformed in the college game, and can’t recruit. Would the vaunted “decided schematic advantage” really materialize?
I really think we can do better.
he was head coach there
point to one instance when he was oc and failed
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5.
by silverstreak3k on Dec 31, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
He can recruit. Top 25 according to Scout.com
2005: NR
2006 : #5
2007: #11
2008: #2
2009: #23
That isn’t all that bad. Can’t really count the first year….etc.
The Once and Future King
and remember
all he has to do now is recruit the offense. malcolm floyd, golden tate, jimmy clausen, etc
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5.
by silverstreak3k on Dec 31, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
+1
not inspiring, especially for a new hc like wm
i was/am hoping for a younger, more energetic guy trying to make his mark
not one working his way down
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Charlie Weis is 54 years old. Spurrier is 65 years old and look where he has (and almost had) South Carolina.
The Once and Future King
id rather have an experienced coach
heading up the o. we saw how an unexperienced “younger up and coming coach” handled it (steve). if you have one of the premier programs in the country, you need premier coaches.
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5.
by silverstreak3k on Dec 31, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm
Steve Addazio is 51
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by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 31, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
i believe the quote was
i was/am hoping for a younger, more energetic guy trying to make his mark
steve is younger, and was on his way up (HC now). he fits exactly what sportsman wanted…
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5.
by silverstreak3k on Dec 31, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
except
he wasn’t good and had a very limited view of offense
kind of like a line coach would have
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
just as another young and upcoming coach would
i will take experience on the o side of the ball after we what all just endured.
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5.
by silverstreak3k on Jan 2, 2011 1:59 AM EST up reply actions
So we go from the top 1% of the top 1%
To having a decided schematic advantage.
Advantage: push, I guess.
"We will be a physically and mentally tough football team. And it's not something you talk about, it's something you live your life with.’’
Will Muschamp, December 14, 2010
this is gotta be the best news for someone like brantley...
more pro style, no more option. (i would guess)
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5.
I dont see how you can complain
The guy was the OC for the New England Patriots who won Superbowls, was a head coach at a top program and had some decent years there, and is now the OC of the Chiefs who have been one of the biggest surprises this year with an offense that is killing it. The guy knows what he is doing with offense. Then I hear complaints about recruiting. Are you telling me if you were a high school kid you wouldnt want to play for a guy who has superbowl rings, ties with some of the best people in the NFL, and was a former NCAA HC? I’d play for that guy.
my one concern
is his ability to recruit a line. his skill players were amazing, but i want amazing lineman too. they need to hire an outstanding oline coach.
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5.
Are you kidding me? This is HUGE
Look what he did for the Kansas City offense. He is gonna beast our offense out and bring BIG offensive guys to our team. If this is TRUE than i am STOKED! Weis will only have to work the offense so he will have way more focus. This is a smart hire.
"Im in psychoville and Finkle's the mayor"
"Your gun is digging into my hip"
My doc told me to act like a robot for the next week. Great prognosis! Me and Johnny-5 will be one...
and mushamp went after him....
you guys are crazy if your not pleased with this hire.
"Im in psychoville and Finkle's the mayor"
"Your gun is digging into my hip"
My doc told me to act like a robot for the next week. Great prognosis! Me and Johnny-5 will be one...
If he was suggested from Belichik than i would say TAKE IT!
"Im in psychoville and Finkle's the mayor"
"Your gun is digging into my hip"
My doc told me to act like a robot for the next week. Great prognosis! Me and Johnny-5 will be one...
by GoNuckingFuts on Dec 31, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
not to mention that he has at least 2 Gator starters
he probably wants more, maybe Weis can make our main quarterback good and New England may draft him for when Tom Brady retires
Mathew 19:26 "With God, all things are possible"
Good Coaches
take guys from winning teams and championship teams…. They are already winners and know how to deal with clutch situations. I wish my dolphins took a book out of his page on that one. Draft Cam Newton… IDC he is a winner just like Tim Tebow will show through and through GO GATORS!!!
"Im in psychoville and Finkle's the mayor"
"Your gun is digging into my hip"
My doc told me to act like a robot for the next week. Great prognosis! Me and Johnny-5 will be one...
by GoNuckingFuts on Dec 31, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure about this
but we need the pro-style offense
Mathew 19:26 "With God, all things are possible"
For what it's worth...
I was a little worried when I heard this.
The good:
1. The Patriots version of the spread is both pro-style and it utilizes the pre-snap read, which is enough like the spread option for an easy transition.
2. The guy can call some plays.
3. Those three rings will look good in a high-school senior’s living room.
The bad:
1. Those rings will look good until he starts talking.
2. He’s a bloated douche-bag.
3. See # 2
Then, I remember who our offensive coordinator was the past two years. Verdict – UPGRADE. Really, it’s like going from a $50 hooker to Pamela Anderson.
by gator'n'mempho on Dec 31, 2010 10:59 PM EST reply actions
more expensive hooker?
why not go for the oc fr the boises or the tcu’s?
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
hheeerrrreee we go charlieeee
if this happens ill be pretty damn happy. bringin UF back to the ole pro style O like back in the glory days of wuerfell and spurrier. this is gonna help out our future stud backs too. gillislee and mack arent good spread backs, they need to run north and south behind some pullin guards or a big ole fullback. i like it i like it alot
kc star says it's official
intro monday
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
confirmed by haley
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5.
by silverstreak3k on Jan 3, 2011 4:13 AM EST up reply actions
I understand people’s hesitation about CW but I am PUMPED.
Charlie Weis’ failures were as a HEAD coach. His offenses were pretty darn good with limited recruiting abilities. It was his defenses that were failures. Not a concern now.
He gets to recruit and mold ONE side of the ball, the side he knows and has shown can work.
If this turns out to be true, this is HUGE !!!
Florida will be able to attract top flight receivers as well. Gone will be the “Florida receiver” stigma. Florida will be able to attract guys like AJ Green and Julio Jones, not losing out to them because of a “gimmick offense” as in years past.
Weis’ rings and NFL resume means the best of the best will come to Florida because there are NFL teams who’d love to get their hands on Weis products.
What the hell is wrong with you people who are not happy with this?!
Charlie Weis is a known offensive guru in the NFL and has had great offenses every where he has been, including Notre Dame. Only reason he was fire at ND is their defenses were horrible and he was the HC so he was held responsible. Maybe Gator fans do expect way too much if they are not happy right now…For goodness sake our OC was just Steve freking Addazio!!!!!! And you people are not happy with Weis.
I’ll believe this when I see it.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
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