Tim Tebow At The Combine
by Hook85 on Mar 1, 2010 4:07 AM EST
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As I predicted Tim Tebow was very impressive at the NFL combine Sunday. As a QB he was one of the top performers in all categories. According to ESPN, Las Vegas made Tebow's 40 yard dash a gambling event. They gave Tim Tebow an over/under of 4.82 in the event. As every Gator fan knows, don't bet against Tim being able to defy the odds he was given, including life! He was clocked at an impressive 4.72, destroying the house odds by a full tenth of a second, which was also 4th best time for QB's.
One of the combine drills that measures agility and quickness is the 3-cone Drill. Tim Tebow not only had the fastest QB time, but he also recorded a faster time then any of the running backs for that drill, and was 4th fastest out of everyone. Even I was impressed with that. So apparently Timmy is much quicker and agile then people give him credit for. Who can blame them though, most of his high light reels show him thundering right through people, not a quick spin move or side step to elude the defender that some of us Gator fans have seen many times.
I also couldn't help but notice how he looked like an actor straight out of 300. Hmmm...Maybe if this NFL thing doesn't pan out he can always be the next female eye candy Matthew McConaughey, which requires no acting skills at all. Just be able to say things like "NO, NOO, NOOO!" or "Alright Alright Alright". I know my wife would be happy with that.
I don’t know why everyone is so surprised on how athletic Tebow was, but if you tuned into Sports Center recently you probably noticed one of the so called draft experts saying they didn’t think Tebow was that athletic and maybe he CAN play other positions then QB if needed. Welcome to the world of Tebow Todd McShay, and Bow while your at It!
Tim Tebow Combine results
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4.72 40 Yard Dash (4th)
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38.5'' Vertical Leap (1st, QB Record)
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9' 7'' Broad Jump (2nd)
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6.66 3-Cone Drill (1st, 4th overall)
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Height- 6'3''
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Weight-236
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Arm Length- 31 3/4''
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Hand Size- 10 1/8'' (Largest among QBs)
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Now all that is left for scouts to make their final decision is the Gator Pro Day. If and I mean a big if...Tim has tweaked his mechanics enough where he looks comfortable and accurate throwing with a quicker release like he’s been doing it all his life then he will be the most complete packaged QB going into the draft in a long, long time.
Please be kind and use good grammar.
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Good stuff here
Only mention is that it was a full tenth of a second faster, not a full second. Still a long time in the 40 yard dash.
Overall, I think we all knew his measureables would be great.
It’s going to come down to his throwing, but I wouldn’t be so concerned if he doesn’t have the mechanics yet. There will be a team that sees his potential and hopefully draft him to play behind a solidly entrenched QB so he can just work on his game without the pressure of playing right away. As long as he is given time somewhere, I think he’ll be fine. He obviously isn’t NFL ready like a Matthew Stafford, but that doesn’t mean he won’t be great down the line. Just have to hope a team treats him like an Aaron Rodgers or Phillip Rivers (also had weird mechanics) and gives him a chance to develop.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 1, 2010 11:19 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
haha damn you!
This will be corrected. 3.8 would be super man like. haha
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
*They are typos, get over it*
Yeah.. Bolt type speed
And I knew what you meant, just a typo I’m sure.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 2, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Hell yeah
His 3 Cone and Shuttle runs were frickin’ awesome. I am thrilled that he has been able to silence the critics of his pure athletic ability.
Really though, we shouldn’t be surprised. Performance in these kind of drills are as much a function of practice and repitition as pure athletic ability. And did you really think ANYONE would outwork Timmy? Never happen.
Can’t wait till Pro Day
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by Sid Bream's Moustache on Mar 1, 2010 4:21 PM EST reply actions
How did he silence his critics?
Everyone knows he’s a freak athlete. That wasn’t really up for debate. The only critics are of his throwing motion. Considering he didn’t throw at the combine, I don’t know how he has silenced anyone, unless it’s those who question his ability to play at a different position.
As they said on the TV yesterday, does anyone know Peyton Manning’s 40 time or Tom Brady’s shuttle time? I couldn’t tell ya, but I’m sure they weren’t very good.
He’ll silence the critics when his throwing motion is improved. I think he’ll be successful too, but the combine didn’t change anyone’s opinion of him.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 2, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
I disagree completely
I said that he silenced the critics of his pure athletic ability. And there have been plenty of them.
There have been a bunch of people talking about how Tebow couldn’t play another position at the NFL, and wouldn’t be able to cut it. Not that I want to see him as an H Back or something, but he showed that he isn’t just an athletic QB, but as athletic as alot of position players.
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by Sid Bream's Moustache on Mar 2, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Who were these people?
They are idiots if they don’t think he’s a good athlete for a quarterback.
If you are talking about people who were discussing his ability to play tight end, well he’s not Antonio Gates or Vernon Davis for that matter, so I could understand it. The only time I have ever heard people question his athleticism is when talking about a position change.
But at QB, I’ve never heard a single person suggest he isn’t an elite athlete.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 2, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Todd McShay is one
He has said Tebow isnt explosive enough or wasnt a good enough runner to play H-back or TE in the NFL. Now that he saw his work outs he admitted he was wrong and he may be able to switch.
So, no I was refering to people complaining that he cant switch to other positions, and cleary they were wrong. Sure its not a given that he can switch easily but his size and athletics are good enough to play FB or TE.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
At TE
He still isn’t that fast.. Vernon Davis, Dallas Clark or an Antonio Gates would run by him with ease. I still think Desmond Clark is his best comparison for a tight end. Which would be a very good career, but he isn’t a great athlete at tight end, just an average one.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 5, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
4.7 is good enough to be a TE in the NFL.
Antonio Gates is the only person I imagine who runs much faster, probably a 4.5 or something. Look at the TE’s 40 times alone in this years combine. Only a couple hit below 4.7
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
I never said it wasn't good enough
I said he’d be solid at tight end.
But his 40 time is only average for an NFL tight end, you are underestimating the tight ends talent in the NFL, if you think only Antonio Gates is much faster.
Vernon Davis (4.41), who I mentioned, is much faster, and the other elite tight ends blow 4.7 away too. Kellen Winslow – 4.51, Jeremy Shockey, 4.58, Jason Witten, 4.62, Tony Gonzalez, 4.54, Greg Olsen 4.5, it goes on. 4.7 is very pedestrian at that position.
I’m not saying he can’t play the position, just that he doesn’t have elite speed there. Could do a lot worse then a Desmon Clark type career.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 8, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
But
Not many of those guys (if any at all) are as strong as Tebow.
Greg Olsen?? elite?
Greg Olsen
Is not even elite, which further proves my point. He’s a decent pass catching tight end, but not great, and he’s still much faster than Tebow.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 9, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
And again
You are underestimating NFL players:
Vernon Davis numbers in college:
bench press (465 pounds), power-clean (355 pounds), index (797 pounds) and squat (685 pounds)
Hell, even Greg Olsen benches 400 lbs. and he’s basically a WR.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 9, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
I think Davis' numbers
Are not typical at all – they are probably at the top of the league at the TE position. So while I would never say that Tebow would be the best TE in the league, I think that there are so few good ones that he has a great chance to play well at that position should it come to that.
Most TEs, probably 99.9% are not smart enough to play QB. Tebow is. Football IQ can make you a better player than your natural ability.
I've agreed that he would be a good tight end.
Repeatedly. I’ve never said otherwise. I think he’d be very successful at the position.
I just don’t like to read things that were clearly not researched and you have no proof. Like he’s the strongest, or fastest besides Antonio Gates or the smartest.
When you say things like.. 99.9% are not smart enough, what kind of evidence do you have? How do you know these guys aren’t well read or educated?
Just a ridiculous thing to say. It makes you sound like you just like Tim Tebow and know nothing about what you are talking about. Instead of posting something reasonable, like he’s an intelligent player, with decent speed and exceptional strength you go off the deep edge and make him out to be a genius with Mr. Incredible strength and unmatched speed.
No one is going to take your opinion seriously if you don’t look at it rationally.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 9, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
This is a Gator blog, not a Newpaper. We can say exaggerate as much as we feel like it, its your problem if you take it too serious.
I just don’t like to read things that were clearly not researched and you have no proof. Like he’s the strongest, or fastest besides Antonio Gates or the smartest.
WTF?
1. I would say Ski is just exaggerating about his IQ because he plays QB which requires you to have a higher football IQ then a TE. Does that mean Tebow is 99.9% smarter, no, it was just a exaggeration because there is no way to actually compare.
2. He said not many of those guys are stronger then Tebow. Last time I knew Tebow was benching 400lbs his sophmore season and was not allowed to go higher. Sure there is some people that are stronger, but all around there isnt many. Naming one person doesnt prove his theory wrong.
3. Nobody said hes the fastest. You said there is many TE’s who would blow by him. I disagreed. Which of course, I was wrong and admitted that there is more TE in the NFL with 4.5 ranges 40’s then I expected. But I never said Tebow would be the fastest. So again stop putting words in my damn mouth.
4. I also said his 40 times were good enough. And not many TE in this years draft had a better time. Which also proves my point, Tebow is fast enough to play TE.
bq. 40-yard dash attempts yielded unofficial times of 4.70 and 4.72, according to the NFL Network. That’s pretty much as fast as some of the highest rated tight ends. Stright from SI.
So dont come in here and talk shit about people not doing research when you dont even research what people are saying. Especially me, because half the shit you are saying I said, I never did. And I admitted there was more TEs with super fast 40’s then I expected. So what, I never said Tebow would be the best damn TE in the league, or the next Tony Gonzalez. So wtf are you arguing about?
IF you dont like reading it, then dont. Nobody is making you.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
EDIT
This is a Gator blog, not a Newpaper. We can exaggerate as much as we feel like it, its your problem if you take it too serious.
i.e. stronger then 99.9%
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
Well I haven't researched the IQs of all NFL players
But it is generally accepted that the QB is the most difficult position to play because it requires both athleticism and a high degree of intelligence. TEs need to know what they need to do on every single play. QBs need to know what all 11 offensive players are doing on every single play, plus read defenses.
As far as speed is concerned, aside form the 40 being a weak indicator of NFL success in my opinion (i.e. Emmitt Smith is slow as Christmas and had a pretty fair NFL career), it is even more insignificant for TEs. When was the last time you heard someone say “man, that tight end can sure fly?!”
Good TEs can catch the ball in traffic (none of us have any idea if Tebow can do this) and can break tackles downfield – all of us KNOW Tebow can do this.
I have no idea if he’ll be a success, a bust, a QB or a tight end, but I am entitled to my opinion. I’ve watched football for over 3 decades, so I don’t think there’s a need to conduct a whole lot of research to form an opinion on a player’s likelihood for success.
by skigator93 on Mar 9, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Obviously 4.7 isn't lightning speed, but its faster than most expected. Which was my point.
So there is more then I expected who run fast 40’s. But one thing your not mentioning is, these are 40 times and they dont mean everything. Sure they are a good indicator. But its not everything.
Also, a lot of those players have had many injuries and I bet money they still dont run that speed. Being a TE is more about blocking, and crisp routes with good hands. It’s probably better to be quick then have top end speed, since TE are rarely asked to outrun a defense.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
Injuries
By that logic, it’s safe to assume Tebow will be slower too after being in the league, so what’s the point?
First, you say it’s a great 40 time, then you find out that no, it’s not a great 40 time at all for a tight end. Then you say, well the 40 time doesn’t matter.
I didn’t need to mention it doesn’t mean anything, because I’m not the one who tried to say he was very fast. I’m the one who said he would be a good, but not great tight end.
Saying a guy will have a good career shouldn’t illicit this kind of response. I never disagreed with you that he can play tight end in the NFL, I also never said his 40 time would prevent him from having a very good career. I actually repeatedly said I think he would be very successful at tight end. Saying a guy won’t be the best at what he does, doesn’t mean that he won’t be successful.
All I was doing, was showing you that you were way off when you suggested his 40 time was anything special for a tight end.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 9, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
What the hell is your problem
Nobody here is saying Tebow is super fast or whatever. All I have said is Tebow impressed a lot of people with his NFL combine. I didnt say he was the most athletic person at the combine, I didnt say he will be one of the most athletic TE’s in the league. I didnt say any of this shit. This entire thread you have started the arguement implying Tebow didnt do anything he wasnt expected to do. And your wrong, because I even have a quote from ESPNS own Todd McShay who admitted he didnt think Tebow was athletic enough to play TE. All I have ever said was Tebow is athletic enough to play TE, and your negative comments, without actually saying it are implying he is barely athletic enough. Which is full of crap, just because he doesnt have a 40 time that matches some of best TE’s in the game.
You need take your attitude some where else because no where on here has anyone said that Tebow is more athletic then most NFL TE’s. All we have tried to explain to you is there was a lot of talk about Tebow not being athletic enough to be able to play another position, and clearly he is. And you have gone out of your way to make it seem like I made the stuff up about Tebow being doubted. Do your own research next time, and youll see everything I have said in my OP was true.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
My point is you named a handfull of guys who have been injured many times
And probably dont run that fast of a 40, and yet they are still the elite TE’s that they are.
First, you say it’s a great 40 time, then you find out that no, it’s not a great 40 time at all for a tight end. Then you say, well the 40 time doesn’t matter.
Haha, I dont mind a debate. But your recent comments are just stupid and disrespectfull. PLEASE SHOW ME WHERE I SAID HIS 40 TIME WAS GREAT.
All I was doing, was showing you that you were way off when you suggested his 40 time was anything special for a tight end.
I never said this again, lol, I said there was only a couple TE’s in this years draft with a faster time.(WHICH IS TRUE) I knew there was NFL players with faster 40 times. I just expected them to be closer to 4.6-4.65 range, and even then I never said Tebows 40 times are special or great, I SAID GOOD ENOUGH.
They are idiots if they don’t think he’s a good athlete for a quarterback.If you are talking about people who were discussing his ability to play tight end, well he’s not Antonio Gates or Vernon Davis for that matter, so I could understand it. The only time I have ever heard people question his athleticism is when talking about a position change.
This is what started this whole debate. Righ here, you are implying just because he isnt Antonio Gates or Vernon Davis that the critics are right to question whether he could switch. I am arguing that he is athletic enough to play TE. Read through the comments again and you will see that you come off as saying Tebow isnt that athletic and it is still a question of whether he could switch or not. Comparing him to the best TE’s in the league isnt a acurate way to tell if a player can switch to that postion.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
You said
You think Antonio Gates is the only one who is much faster, clearly that’s not the case, I went through the top 10 tight ends and didn’t find who wasn’t much faster.
When you say he is better then all but probably one guy, you’re suggesting he’s special.
I agreed with you that he was good enough to make the switch. Read what I said. I said he is athletic enough and would have a successful career there. I said you saying he was faster then most tight ends, all but Antonio Gates, is ridiculous.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 10, 2010 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
Get your facts straight
Saying you dont think there is a lot that is MUCH faster, is not the same as saying " I think hes better then all". It means exactly as I said, I didnt think there would be a lot of TE that are a lot faster. Never said there wasnt.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
Dude I have had enough of your stupid shit
I said you saying he was faster then most tight ends, all but Antonio Gates, is ridiculous.
Seriously, stop making shit up. I never said he was faster then most tight ends. So either STFU about it, or copy and paste the BS stuff you are saying I said.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
illicit
That’s sex, usually. Now the word elicit means to “call out” or “bring forth” . Damn.. don’t you research anything? Chill out, we’re all just chatting and having fun. If you’re all stressed out, go slap the bitch, don’t take it out on home folks.
Ciao
Typos vs. misinformation..
Completely the same…
by Grinder in Training on Mar 11, 2010 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
You dont know jack. Stop acting like you do.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
Utttt Ohhhhh
Hook is PISSED. This may be a time to panic and run for our lives cuz this MoFo is on a RAMPAGE!!! hahaha
by gatorempire127 on Mar 11, 2010 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
Yea I cant help it when someone keeps making up shit up and putting words in my mouth. And then saying I am misinforming people.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
You said
You said ,“I imagine Antonio Gates is the only one much faster.”
I didn’t make this up. It’s right there in this thread. I said this is not true, because it’s not. That’s not making shit up. It’s you throwing a hissy fit because you were wrong and got called out on it.
Many tight ends are much faster, in fact, almost all of the decent pass catching tight ends are. So yes, you misinformed people, but no, I did not put words in your mouth.
Also, I don’t need to know jack, all I need to know is how to use the internet to look up 40 times to prove you wrong.
If you are going to make a blanket statement like 99.9% of tight ends aren’t intelligent enough to play quarterback or stronger then other tight ends (there two were not you, but same idea),or only one tight end is much faster, maybe you should actually look these things up.
I realize this is a Gator’s blog, but that doesn’t mean I have to accept ridiculous homer statements. It’s like listening to a 12 year old talk about his favorite team. Tim Tebow is the strongest player ever!!!!!!! yay!!!!!!
Just because we are fans means we can’t talk about these guys intelligently?
by Grinder in Training on Mar 12, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
This was my statement
If you are going to make a blanket statement like 99.9% of tight ends aren’t intelligent enough to play quarterback or stronger then other tight ends (there two were not you, but same idea),or only one tight end is much faster, maybe you should actually look these things up.
I stand by my statement. I “looked it up” and I haven’t found one tight end that has moved to quarterback. I did find a QB who has moved to TE, and he has since proven that he is an idiot. So there is your research for statement #1.
With regard to #2, I checked that too and was unable to find any strongest man competition in which all NFL tight ends and Tim Tebow took part. I am relying on my gut for that one.
You are WRONG. Get over it.
I never said Tebow will be the fastest, I never said Tebow will be anything special. All I ever said was Tebow is athletic enough.
SOO where in the hell did I say any of this shit you speak of below.
Like he’s the strongest, or fastest besides Antonio Gates or the smartest.
I said you saying he was faster then most tight ends, all but Antonio Gates, is ridiculous.
First, you say it’s a great 40 time
because I’m not the one who tried to say he was very fast.
All of those are quotes from YOU, saying THAT I said those things. Which I didnt. You are wrong. Learn how to READ other people comments clearly before you put words in thier mouth.
I said I imagine there isnt much faster.
1. Thats is cleary stated as my opinion and not as a fact.
2. This doesnt mean I think Tebow would be the second fastest TE, I just didnt think there was a lot of TE’s that could blow by him. Either way, this was not even in my OP, and I never informed people that this was some sort of fact. I made it clear it was my opinion. So stop trying to call people out, when you have no idea what your talking about!
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
FYI
I imagined Gates is the only one much fatser does not mean I think Tebow is faster then all nfl TE’s besides Gates.
I dont know how you get that correlation, but its way off. So I am calling out your stupid assumptions.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
ownage.
I love it when we get hostile on this site literally makes my day.
by gatorempire127 on Mar 13, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
Are you serious?
What is the difference? You saying you imagine something to be true is no different then you saying you think it to be true.
You’re arguing semantics. You were blatantly wrong. He isn’t fast for a tight end in the NFL, there are many tight ends much faster then him. You believed that not to be the case, I showed you that you were wrong.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 15, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha, you make laugh.
You proved me wrong that there’s a bunch of NFL TEs who run much faster 40’s and I admitted that a long time ago. But all your BS of claiming I made all those statements was the problem. Just because you are right about one point dorsnt give you the right to trash the other person and make up shit saying he said that.
And I when I say I imagine something to be true… that is not informing people of the facts, it’s just telling people my opinion. So get over yourself.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
Your opinion was wrong
So get over yourself.
The other guy was wrong too. He made some idiotic homer comments. You say things not based in fact, you should be called out on it.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 16, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont care if I was wrong
Everybody is wrong at times. I had no problem with that, especially since I was just gussing.
The problem was all those other things you were claiming I said.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
The only critics
I beg to differ on this issue. Many of the critics have their panties in a wad for a jillion various reasons. Tebow is not the type of person to appeal to a bunch of raucous fans of typical NFL cities…. until he wins. NFL offense has been patterned for drop-back pocket passers for eons. Anyone who comes along that does not fit the mold is bound for criticism. There are also a number of critics who happened to have their feelings hurt because Tebow and the Gators overshadowed their favorite college teams. It’s easy to be a critic. It’s far more difficult to be a shrewd judge of potential. If the door opens just a crack for Tim, he will show them what a stud does. Go Tebow!
by renegator on Mar 3, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There are plenty of critics of Tebow.
That’s not what I’m saying. He has critics all over the place, I think we all know that. That has nothing to do with what I was saying.
I’m suggesting no one was critical of his athletic ability at quarterback. Show me where someone suggested he wouldn’t be one of the most athletic quarterbacks?
by Grinder in Training on Mar 4, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
In that context, you are correct.
I was simply reacting to the myriad of bitchers and moaners of everything Tebow does, says, touches or wears. It ain’t just his throwing motion that draws fire. I did not intend to dispute your point about recognition of his athletic ability. I’m just a little edgy about the A-holes that manufacture reasons to criticize.
and Who say's he won't do well at the combine?
I’m still suprised of his stats being that high. If you ask me, I think he’ll do great in the NFL when he’s done improving his mechanics
Who gets Tebow?
I’ve seen Jacksonville, Buffalo mentioned, along with a few others. My new choice:
Cleveland Browns. Mike Holmgren has a history of doing well with QB’s that others didn’t necessarily see anything in (Favre, Hasselback). He has recently said he’ll give Quinn all 16 games to start and prove himself. This is the perfect situation for Tebow in my mind.
I live in the midwest, and have seen.. more then I’d ever want to see of Brady Quinn play. I don’t see him being successful in the long term, he just isn’t an elite QB. At the same time, he’s good enough he won’t be benched during the season. This gives Tebow a place to grow, work on mechanics, and somewhat out of the spotlight of a New York or Chicago, where he can be left alone. He’ll also have Holmgren there to help with his development.
What is your preferred destination for Tebow? (And why too if you could).
by Grinder in Training on Mar 2, 2010 10:52 AM EST reply actions
New England
Brady as the established starter gives Tebow time to learn the game, and continue to improve his mechanics without the immediate pressure of game prep. Plus, the transition from a Meyer-coached team to a Belichik-coached team seems to be pretty smooth.
NE runs as close to the spread as I’ve seen in the NFL, so their offensive system looks like a good fit for Tebow. For example, they tend to line up in shotgun 70% of the time, and they use quick screen passes to augment their running game. Stuff Tebow has already seen in college.
Tim Tebow 2010.
Bring the hate.
Feed the beast.
Pittsburgh
He can back up Big Ben. I sure hope he doesn’t go to a sorry team like Cleveland or Buffalo.
Pittsburgh?
Why in the world would you hope he goes to the Steelers? His rookie contract would be up before he ever gets on the field. They have a potential hall of fame quarterback in his prime. Big Ben turned 28 today, he’s only 5 years older than Tebow. He has probably 5 -7 good years left of quarerbacking, at the minimum. I don’t understand this one at all, unless it’s to play tight end?
I could somewhat understand the Patriots if you feel Brady won’t last much longer, but Pittsburgh???
You would hope that Tebow is good enough to make Buffalo or Cleveland better. I guess if you don’t think Tebow will ever be a starter, Pittsburgh makes sense. I’m not going to write off his career this early though.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 2, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Not really writing him off
But if he goes to a lousy team – he’ll be terrible. He’s marginal NFL skill-wise. If he is under pressure from day one because of OL troubles, look out. Stafford has all the tools, and does anyone really think he’ll ever enjoy any success at Detroit?
Pittsburgh was just a knee-jerk suggestion, but any team that develops its players and is consistently competitive will be a good fit. Cleveland, Buffalo or the Bucs would be a death march.
I'd suggest Cleveland today is very different
Then the previous regime. Mike Holmgren develops talent. He knows what he’s doing, especially with quarterbacks.
Not only that, he won’t play in the first year if he’s drafted by Cleveland, so being under pressure from day one is a non-issue. They’ve already stated Brady Quinn will get 16 games to prove himself.
I’d suggest Stafford has already begun to prove himself, here in Chicago, we are all concerned about what he will become. He’s much better then I had given him credit for while at Georgia. He’s the real deal.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 2, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
To think that Brady Quinn can last 16 games
behind that offensive line is more than a bit optimistic.
you shut up
buffalo is a fine organization…
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Mar 10, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
They look sorry to me....
and they don’t apper to be headed in the right direction like my sorry Falcons do!
I'd prefer Jax
Its close to home. I’d get him in the 2nd (if we can trade back and get a 2nd round pick) or in the 3rd.
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Just afraid how soon he’d get into the game, and if they can properly develop him there.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 4, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Our QB coach is Mike Shula
Garrard is into his 30’s so the wait would be less than 3 years, maybe 1.
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Sorry.. not what I meant
I mean I’d be afraid he would start too soon at Jacksonville, not that he wouldn’t get an opportunity. I think there would be a lot of pressure to get him in the game right away if he is there. They need fans badly, and putting Tebow in could really help their attendance issues. Probably should have explained that better, my fault.
I’d like him to be in a situation where he’s sure to be behind a veteran for the year, Seattle w/ Hasselback, Cleveland w/ Quinn, St. Louis if they sign Pennington for a year. Something along those lines. I’m afraid if he’s in Jacksonville he’ll be thrown into the fire too early.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 5, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the polls and projections links
Looks like Oklahomo is still hurting from a terminal wedgie.
BTW
What’s all this crap about Sam Bradford being the possible #1 QB taken? ESPN thinks he has come back from the dead.
Well he was the projected number one last season
I guess his medical evals have checked out, so basically they are hoping those injuries havent effected his arm at all.
I haven’t heard too much about his arm and the type of injuries he had. So I assume all he needed was time for his shoulder to heal and there is no long term effects.
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Damn
I wish i kept up with this while it was happening… kinda feel outta the loop now. =(
by gatorempire127 on Mar 10, 2010 10:43 PM EST reply actions
There will be plenty of other loops
It’s like the newspaper. If you miss a week and pick it up again it’s like deja vu. When you’re old enough to read the trends, the day’s details don’t mean sh.t
Haha very good point rene my man very good point.
by gatorempire127 on Mar 11, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
What if Tebow had taken Pryor's path?
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?id=4985289
Jemele Hill argues that if Meyer substantially changed Tebow’s throwing motion in college, we don’t know if Tebow / the Gators would have enjoyed as much success.
Tim Tebow 2010.
Bring the hate.
Feed the beast.
The Gators are my focus.
Tim Tebow may have been the greatest college quarterback that ever lived and people are still asking “what if?”. Damn “what if?”. I have all the respect in the world for Tebow and his family and I wish nothing but the best for Tim. However, Tim’s pro career has nothing to do with what he has accomplished as a Gator and a decent human being. If throwing darts at Tebow brings any joy to your life, you need to carefully examine your values. I’m not a fraction of the man Tebow is so I feel free to address the detractors, kiss Tim’s ass.
A longer and more detailed article of this would make an good fan post.
I am a Gator fan first. Tebow is awesome and all that, but if he doesnt pan out in the NFL…Well that sucks and all but I am more concearned about my Gators and his future will not change his past. AT ALL.
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