One of your favorite Orlando Sentinel writers shows his true colors
by mlmintampa on Jul 23, 2010 11:33 AM EDT
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Remember the discussion about Florida grads and Orlando Sentinel writers Mike Bianchi and Jeremy Fowler in this thread? Well, Bianchi showed this morning he is an old school Gator; an unprovoked attack on the Georgia Bulldogs.
Georgia fans have way too high of an opinion of their program. In fact, I believe an argument could be made that Georgia is the the most overrated program in college football history.
Think about this: Georgia has won one national title in the modern era and that came 30 years ago in 1980. And the only reason it happened then is because of two lightning-in-a-bottle happenstances: The Bulldogs were fortunate enough to sign arguably the greatest player in college football history (see Herschel Walker) and they were lucky enough to take advantage of one of the biggest fluke plays in college football history (see above video of Lindsay Scott’s catch-and-run against Florida during the national championship season).
I would not call Georgia the most overrated team in history, especially when Florida did not become an national power until the mid-1980s. (And I like UGA as an academic institution.) However, I once spent 10 minutes on WRUF railing about how the only traditions Georgia has are silver pants, Herschel Walker and a dog. HOORAY HATRED!
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Just you wait....
…the next thing you know, Bianchi will find some excuse to come out with a pot-shot at UF. He’s an attention-whore and showboater like Slimebaum, and he pretty much goes in whatever direction the wind blows.
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by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Jul 23, 2010 1:09 PM EDT reply actions
UGA is not over-rated
at least not as much as USC Trojans are, but i digress. the only problem i have with the bulldogs are their fans. i have dealt with a lot of various fan bases over my tenure of where i have lived (UM, UGA, FSU, GT) and of all of those fans, uga ones are the absolute worst. they sit on some pedestal that they believes god gave them and are obnoxious even in blow-out losses. i have never met another fan base that is as terrible as the UGA fan base is….
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I agree with you on USC
but it’s obvious you’ve never met a Tennessee fan, they are the worst
People have a week dedicated to sharks, sharks have a week dedicated to Jason Heyward, let's follow in the "footsteps" of the sharks.....
USC is overrated? They've won nine championships. How many do you have to win to be properly rated?
Also, nothing approaches FSU fans for worst fanbase. Show up when you’re winning and throw the man who built your program under the bus when you’re losing. They had 20,000 USF fans at the USF-FSU game because they can’t sell their own building. I’d rather have delusions of grandeur like UGA than bandwagon, disloyal bastards like FSU or Miami. (UM gets a bad rap though because it’s a very small school that happens to play big time football. The annoying UM fans never attended UM.)
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I’m with mlm on this one. How is USC overrated? Just because you don’t win championships when you are ranked #1 preseason does not make you overrated. UF was not overrated last season, they just weren’t as good as Bama was (at least we definitely weren’t as good as they were that night in December).
USC was (is) a strong program, and over the past decade has been one of the top programs in the country. I don’t think they have been overrated at all.
As far as worst fan bases – everyone will have a different opinion based upon their own personal experiences. I’ve seen terrible fans at every school I’ve been to – well, except at Lexington and Oxford. Everyone I met was pretty cool at those 2 schools.
the reason I say USC was(and still is) overrated is because they play in the pathetic 10
they don’t play out of conference very often on the road(Ohio State doesn’t count) but when they play somebody good they play ’em at home
People have a week dedicated to sharks, sharks have a week dedicated to Jason Heyward, let's follow in the "footsteps" of the sharks.....
Because being champion of minor leagues
Is still champion of the minor leagues. Get what I’m saying? They have no competition out there, they always have a head start on any blue chip west coast kid, play in the second easiest division (sorry big east), and everyone fall all over themselves about USC. No school should be fawned over like they fawn over USC, and that is why they are over-rated.
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by silverstreak3k on Jul 24, 2010 3:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
what are you talking about?
They play Ohio State and Notre Dame every year out of conference and every other year on the road (for both – in alternating years). That only leaves them 1 other game to schedule and they travel sometimes to that game (see Fayetteville in ‘06). I’m not saying that Ohio State and Notre Dame are the best programs right now, but they are surely better than our OOC games. Granted the Pac 10 is weak, but they can’t exactly control that.
I understand why they say USC is so over rated.
Are they a power house team? Sure…For a few seasons they back on top like the old days… Now all they have to do is beat a few decent pac10 teams and they are in the F’n rose bowl. That’s kind of a big bowl for beating Oregon, maybe Oregon st. but still lose to Stanford or some other garbage pac10 team.
The Bush/leinhart teams were awesome, the rest have been over rated ever since they left.
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by Hook85 on Jul 25, 2010 7:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
To add to my point, they sucked last year but voters were like.... Ehhh we can't kick USC out of the top ten!
I remember watching ESPN and they acted like someone died when USC fell out of the top ten.
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by Hook85 on Jul 25, 2010 7:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This
Being over rated doesn’t mean the team has to suck, it just means people and the media fawn over that team waaayyyy mire than they should. Other teams in the running for most over-rated include, Notre dame, OSU, Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma and the like. None if those teams “suck” (except maybe ND), but all are over-rated.
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by silverstreak3k on Jul 25, 2010 2:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And all of those teams you mentioned aside from Notre Dame have played for the national title within the last 3 years.
I don’t think that counts as overrated.
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Plus
If you think Alabama is overrated, than this is not a serious discussion.
You should just call it “teams I hate.”
Who cares about the Rose Bowl? Nobody outside the conference who have trouble counting (Big Ten? Eleven? Pac 12? 10?)
Let’s remember that because of our success, we don’t have to do all that much to play for the SEC Championship, which is a springboard to the BCSCG. Our most serious challengers are UGA and the Cocks.
Like the other guy said there’s a difference between over rated as in they actually suck or over rated as in they get votes in the rankings simply because the name of thier school, or the entire media fawns over them.
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by Hook85 on Jul 26, 2010 12:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
this
you guys missed the point. hook got it
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To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
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by silverstreak3k on Jul 26, 2010 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions
So how is Alabama overrated again?
I’m still not following. They haven’t lost a regular season SEC Game in 2 years and ran the table last year for a national title. They return most of their offense, including a Heisman trophy winner – who may not even be the best RB on the team. And you’re saying they are overrated?!!?
If anyone is overrated – it is us. We lost most of our defense, which was the backbone of our team last season. We also lost the heart of our team the past 4 years, yet we are still ranked Top 5 in most polls with a QB who has yet to throw a pass against a starting SEC defense.
I never thought 'Bama was overrated
and I don’t think I will for a long time
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not sure if you got it
cuz your first paragraph seems like you didnt, but then your second one did…..so yeah.
i think you are focusing too much on the teams i named on not on my point in general…
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To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
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by silverstreak3k on Jul 26, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I totally understand what you mean
A team doesn’t have to be lousy to be overrated. To the contrary, they can be a good team, but have a ranking much higher than warranted based on extraneous factors. However, your examples are not good – those teams are not at all what I would call overrated. To the contrary, their high rankings are well deserved.
Notre Dame was a good example – they have been lousy for a while now, but are always thought to be better than they are because of the strong ND tradition. Alabama, USC and Texas are not good examples.
even on down years
all of those teams are rated higher than they should be. usually much higher. that was my point. obviously no one over-rates vanderbilt, but thats kind of my point. if vandy was 12-0 with a winning margin of 34 points, they would probably still be rated below a 10-2 texas, alabama, uf, etc. that was my point. yes you are correct that right now alabama is doing great, but everything is cyclical and as you pointed out, even UF is getting amazing ratings even after losing tons of people….so yea, the UF thing proves exactly what im saying….
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5
by silverstreak3k on Jul 26, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
dont jinx me!
I’m planning to head up to Nashville for that game this year….
Bobby Bowden’s time was up a long time ago. They held onto him as long as possibly could and gave him every opportunity possible to succeed.
Aside from that…I agree with you. Miami has the worst fans (out of the Big Three of college football in Florida) they couldn’t even sell out the old Orange Bowl. But there are enough Miami “fans” to fill up that stadium regardless of how small the school actually is.
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Are you serious?
About the FSU fanbase? I think most of the FSU fanbase was at wits end with Bobby and the way he ran the program at the end. That’s why nobody showed up. When the product is horrible attendence and booster contributions are the only way to show the school that a change needs to happen. And it worked. I was at the USF game. There was not 20k USF fans there. Not even close.
The FSU fanbase is energized with the change. The change was needed. We respect and love Bobby for building the program.
I agree that USC is not overrated.
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how does he know im of the younger generation?
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by gatorempire127 on Jul 28, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree that USC is not overrated
……..
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5
by silverstreak3k on Jul 27, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Its in the water
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
Real fans don’t need a reason.
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I have dealt withUT fans also
Probably not as much as someone living up there but I’ve had my share, and uga fans still win. It’s their annoited attitude that is the worst.
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5
by silverstreak3k on Jul 24, 2010 3:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I found it extremely comical
when they rioted against the savior Kiffen
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
Real fans don’t need a reason.
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by TheTealDeal on Jul 28, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
even funnier
more funny? eh whichever, even more comical was when they went back to their dorms without mattresses and had to sleep on the floor….
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5
by silverstreak3k on Jul 29, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
"I would not call Georgia the most overrated team in history"
neither would I as long as USC still has a program
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 23, 2010 10:52 PM EDT reply actions
Oops haha didn’t read the threads.. well, definitely USC
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 23, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
USC is gonna blow now though
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by Patssuck456 on Jul 23, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe....
There are a few programs that could survive what USC is going through. USC is definitely one of them…Only problem is you need the right coach to make it through…and their coach probably isn’t the right guy.
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Kiffy is one of the few coaches who could pull them through this
He is the ultimate bullshitter… and there is nothing more a HS football player wants to hear than bullshit. I F%*^ing hate the guy, but his Dark Side allegience is powerful enough to pull in top classes and sell a losing program to kids who dont know any better than “its USC, i need to go there”.
Add all that into ESPNs constant Koolaid talk about how great USC is, and the media will act their still the greatest thing since Cher
by Bourbon Meyer on Jul 24, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol, I love this
I F%*^ing hate the guy, but his Dark Side allegience is powerful enough to pull in top classes and sell a losing program to kids who dont know any better than "its USC, i need to go there".
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
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SCREW YOU GEORGIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by gatorempire127 on Jul 26, 2010 11:19 AM EDT reply actions
I'm glad you point out teh stoopid in this, mimi
Bianchi really lost me when he mentioned the part about
The Bulldogs were fortunate enough to sign arguably the greatest player in college football history (see Herschel Walker) and they were lucky enough to take advantage of one of the biggest fluke plays in college football history
In that case, what would one call the signing of Tim Tebow and the Jarvis Moss blocked field goal against South Carolina?
Every championship team has great players and some lucky bounces go their way. I fail to see how the fact the Georgia capitalized on those makes them “the most overrated program of all time”.
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Although I really dislike Bianchi and his constant anti-Gator slant
I think the point he was making is that UGA only won that single modern day title, and that took the luck of inking Herschel plus the miracle on Duval Street. While every team needs some luck to win a national title (like the Moss block or Mt. Cody’s block against UT last year for the Tide), UF was able to win a title when Tebow was still running over other 8 year olds in his Pop Warner league. Add to it the title Tebow helped us win as a freshman, plus the one he lead us to as a junior, and UF can legitimately claim to be a national power with 3 titles in the past 15 years. UGA is also considered by many to be a national power, yet its recent resume is a little lean.
That being said, I have no idea where this article came from – it is very unlike Bianchi to take pot shots at schools other than the Gators. My only explanation is maybe he was drunk when he wrote it or maybe he was angry at a UGA fan for making fun of his jorts.
U[sic]GA 2008 Preseason National Champions!
This is just sad: “And I like UGA as an academic institution”
Where Bianchi went wrong was in his phrasing. It should read: The Bulldogs were fortunate enough to sign pay arguably the greatest player in college football history (see Herschel Walker)
UGA alumni are ok fans, however average “Dawg” fans are illiterate obnoxious oxygen bandits
by TangoHotelWhiskeyGolf on Jul 28, 2010 5:31 PM EDT reply actions
Never listen to a Georgia fan
when they tell you Bulldogs are pretty.
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