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John Brantley's Injury: High Ankle Sprain, According to Report

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No one officially knows the extent of John Brantley's injury, though we have a few separate pieces of news to stitch together on the hit that knocked the Florida quarterback out of the Gators' 38-10 loss to Alabama — and video of Brantley's injury, if you care to subject yourself to it again. But the Palm Beach Post's Jason Lieser reports that "multiple sources" have told him Brantley suffered a high ankle sprain against Alabama.

What does that mean? Well, according to Wikipedia:

A high ankle sprain, also known as a syndesmotic ankle sprain, is a sprain of the syndesmotic ligaments that connect the tibia and fibula on the lower leg. Syndesmotic ankle sprains are known as high because their location on the lower leg is above the ankle.

What a high ankle sprain — remember, not the official word from the team, at least yet — might mean for Brantley's availability for the rest of the 2011 season is unclear. But it's probably worth noting that most high ankle sprains take weeks, plural, to heal, and that Tom Brady sustained a high ankle sprain two weeks before Super Bowl XLII and still managed to play in it.

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As long as there is no ligament damage, we’ll be fine. He’ll miss a game or two, and likely be back after the bye week. Which is in perfect time for the Georgia game.

Though missing out on the LSU and Auburn games, puts a serious damper on our season outlook.

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by FlaGators on Oct 2, 2011 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Although many would have argued that our season outlook

already included losses to both LSU and Auburn. LSU certainly in any rational assessment. So IF he is back by UGA and IF 100% or close to (and those are both big IFs) our season is only hampered by at most one extra loss. The damper, of course, then might be sweeping the east and still not getting to Atlanta via having 3 losses to West teams.

by olorcain on Oct 2, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent point. One extra loss (potentially, and if reports are true. That’s not that bad at all considering.

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by FlaGators on Oct 2, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, come on now

Driskell’s on scholarship too, and don’t forget Charlie Weis and his big, fat….paycheck. Now he’s really going to have to earn it.

Mix in a little wildcat, play off the chart defense, get some special teams scores. In short, injuries are an unfortunate part of the game, but a team has to find a way to win. The last 2 1/2 years have taught FSU a lot about playing with a back-up QB, though the competition level for Driskell (this week at least) will be better than E.J. Manuel or Clint Trickett faced.

What do your re-calculated proportional win shares show now? One loss is on the board, and losses to LSU and maybe Auburn are on the horizon? Is Georgia on the bubble? How about Florida State? If all those games end up in the loss column, and it isn’t likely, that would put the Gators at 8-5, just like last season. I think the Gators go 9-4, maybe 10-3. Either would be quite an accomplishment for a first year coach in the SEC.

by Dauntless12 on Oct 2, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops, I forgot about USCe

Still, 8-4 would be my regular season prediction even with the Brantley injury. That assumes a loss to LSU, and then two losses to the combination of Auburn, Georgia, USCe and Florida State. (I will give you Furman and Vanderbilt.) Going 8-4 might be a tall order given the likelihood of a freshman QB playing a significant portion of the season. But why set small goals?

by Dauntless12 on Oct 2, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had them at 8-4 before the season. I had them losing to Bama and LSU. I had Auburn at 55 and Georgia at 50.

Without Brantley, it changes things. Especially from an experience standpoint. It isn’t a knock on Driskel other than the fact that from what he has shown, he still has a bit to go. But that was to be expected, and a reason why he is the back-up and not the starter.

I’d put both the Auburn and Georgia games (since Georgia is playing really well)…in the 40’s now. Win shares.

Before Brantley…

LSU – 20
Auburn – 55
Georgia – 50
Vandy – 100
Carolina – 40
Furman – 100
FSU – 40

That puts us at 8 wins remaining by my win shares before the Brantley injury. Depending on if Brantley plays against Georgia, that is no longer a 50/50 game in my eyes, but an advantage to Georgia. But still…Auburn however, is now below 50. Where the extra loss comes in.

8-4 if Brantley plays all the games. 7-5 if he has back for the Georgia game. 6-6 if he doesn’t play against Georgia.

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by FlaGators on Oct 2, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

will carroll's book on sports injuries

doesn’t list a “high ankle” sprain but does cover ankle sprains in general. a key point he makes is that sprains aren’t a static injury – they are classified by degree and the severity of the injury can vary wildly. all such sprains involve damage to the ligaments.

according to carroll, for severe sprains the first step is ensuring there isn’t a fracture to the bone involved. that’s most likely why the prognosis took so long. after that there is a 72-hour period of general treatment – ice, compression, elevation, etc. at that point, the severity of the the injury can be properly evaluated and a course of treatment recommended. so that suggests, most likely, brantley will be out for the lsu game and possibly more depending on how bad the later evaluations reveal this sprain to be. i

here’s a link to carroll’s book. it’s an essential read for trying to figure out situations like these given the convoluted medical jargon, paucity of official information and the rampant amount of rumor. you can also tweet him @injuryexpert about this. he’s very good in responding on that medium.

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by kleph on Oct 2, 2011 8:06 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Thanks.

Doesn’t SB Nation employ an injury expert as well? I remember reading some of his Wuerffel stuff, but I can’t remember if it was just a contributing piece or not.

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by FlaGators on Oct 2, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

not that i know of

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by kleph on Oct 2, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paragon SC over at Conquest Chronicles is an orthopedist and has done a lot of write ups on some of the more common injuries in football. Here is the post on the High Ankle Sprain.

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by Todd on Oct 2, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhh thanks. I thought I’d seen a blog around here that had a clinic on the left side but wasn’t 100% sure. Thanks again.

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by FlaGators on Oct 2, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

We do.

He doesn’t work weekends, though. I’m going to ask bosses to see if he can weigh on in some of this.

by Andy Hutchins on Oct 2, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see. Well, if I was him, I wouldn’t either. That’s why if I was a doctor of some kind, I’d be a podiatrist. Because you work until 3 and there are no emergency calls.

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by FlaGators on Oct 2, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this is the best realistic news we could have hoped for.

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by Boddington on Sep 19, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions

I literally wish I had killed myself on the train station after I got laid off
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I want a goddamned criminal investigation.
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by internet commenter on Oct 2, 2011 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

It could of been a lot worse.

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by Gatorbuc15 on Oct 2, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup.

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by FlaGators on Oct 2, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any hope he could take a medical redshirt if he’s out for more than a few weeks?

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by Todd on Oct 2, 2011 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Supposedly the medical redshirt cutoff

is Game 4. No idea if that’s accurate. I’m sure there’s an appeal process however.

Oh, come on. Don't leave your uncle T-bag hangin'.

by Troll2Troll on Oct 2, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roughly…

a medical redshirt, a hardship waiver may be granted an athlete who appears in fewer than 30% of his or her team’s competitions (with none coming after the midway point of the season), then suffers a season-ending injury.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_redshirt

A player can compete in 30 percent of a team’s games in the first half of the season and still be eligible for a medical hardship waiver

http://www.illinihq.com/sports/illini-sports/mens-basketball/2007-06-03/ncaa-quietly-updates-criteria-receiving-medical-reds

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by FlaGators on Oct 2, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, last night's dinner...

…was a big plate of crow! I was one of many calling for JB4’s head. After carefully watching him with an open mind at the start of the season, I’m painfully heartbroken he went down. Not that he was a heisman candidate, but dammit he was doing good! I wanna go find him and give him a pat on the back. Get well soon, Johnny.

/spits out crow feathers

by GoGators82 on Oct 3, 2011 1:01 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

tough year just got tougher

Coach Bump can only thrive so long on previous recruits. He made SEVERAL bad judgements on recruits while at Texas which he got final say once he was “heir apparent”

Much of Texas 5-7 record last year was Wills’ faulty recruiting

Look for lots of 7-5 8-4 years ahead

by Senator-Blutarsky on Oct 3, 2011 7:38 AM EDT reply actions  

[sarcasm]Wait, wait Andy. You're totally losing me here.

Are you implying that players might be better as juniors and sophomores than they were as freshman? You’re going way out on a limb there, pal. Such a thing is truly unknown in the annals of college football history.[/sarcasm]

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by car.full.of.midgets on Oct 3, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Glad to hear that the injury wasn't season-ending

Good luck with the rest of the season.

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by 12NationalChampionships on Oct 3, 2011 8:31 AM EDT reply actions  

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