Fire Will Muschamp?
by JesseR on Oct 31, 2011 2:41 PM EDT
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The trial is now over. It's time to fire Will Muschamp. It's nothing personal, but this is college football, folks.
The charge:
1. The Florida Gators seem destined for their first losing season since 1979! (and, let's be honest; the team would have lost more but had a pretty easy start to the year)
Will Muschamp has:
2. Not recruited depth at the quarterback position (Right now, it's Brantley or no one.)
3. Allowed the team to achieve the distinction of being in the top 20 most penalized teams in all of college football.
4. Permitted some of the most weak special teams performance in team history.
5. Permitted shoddy, boring, and predictable play-calling that is not suited to the competition of the SEC.
6. Behaved in a spastic manner on the sidelines during games which, in my opinion, only serves to embolden the opposing team.
7. Failed to recruit depth at key positions such as wide receiver, running back, and kicker.
The charges are up for debate but we, the fans, the alumni, and the players of the University of Florida, deserve better. He can certainly defend himself against the charges by bringing things back under control but the clock is ticking.
Please be kind and use good grammar.
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We're not going anywhere this year .....
so I think he gets “a mulligan” for this year. IMHO the thing that bugs me the most is the blatantly obvious fact that he did not recruit even one hard nosed fullback. Our lack of a running game is our biggest weakness. Personally, I just don,t get it.
Absolutely not.
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Fire John Brantley
also fire the offensive line… err… set them on fire. Yeah, that one.
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by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Oct 29, 2011 8:37 PM EDT reply actions
Not the whole offensive line, but Nixon has played horrible this year.
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The bashing Brantley is ridiculous and downright pathetic. Last year? Yes. Tonight? No. The kid played his ass off. He showed more heart and guts then you will ever have or show. Lay the fuck off him.
Coach Muschamp: Laying the Boom down on your a.....
by Gators1 on Oct 29, 2011 9:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Nixon is a dipshit. Kick his ass off the team right about now.
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by Gators1 on Oct 29, 2011 9:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nixon has been abysmal (for lack of a better word) this year. He was supposed to be our best offensive linemen.
Yeah … not so much.
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He's injured.
i support casual racism
by Boddington on Sep 19, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I literally wish I had killed myself on the train station after I got laid off
by Sean O on Sep 28, 2011 7:49 PM PDT
I want a BUC'N criminal investigation.
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by Ben Buchanan on Sep 28, 2011 7:48 PM PDT
by internet commenter on Oct 30, 2011 5:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah … but he ain’t injured that badly. Otherwise, he wouldn’t be playing.
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Name four Florida offensive tackles.
I can’t.
by Andy Hutchins on Oct 31, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Nixon, Patchan…Ohhhh, I see. You want back-ups.
Koehne (Who I think played against UGA, but I think it was on Special Teams) and Chaz Green …. That’s what I got.
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Speaking of which, I don’t think there are any OT freshman on the roster … but like Cali Gators pointed out here, reinforcements are on the way.
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Trip Thurman
isn’t he a OT and freshman?
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Had to check Gatorzone.
He is listed as a guard. But that doesn’t really mean it is final.
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What Brantley showed in heart
he more than ruined in ability. It wasn’t just his ankle either. His second half was vintage Brantley. He made stupid decisions, failed to find receivers on the other side of the field from his first read, underthrew everyone, and generally ruined every late opportunity Florida had with decent field position. His first half was very very good, but he gave the game away.
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by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Oct 30, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Responsible for some of the most weak special teams performance in team history.
You do realize that we returned a kick-off for a touchdown today and had a 40.0 yard average.
Responsible for shoddy, boring, and predictable play-calling that is not suited to the competition of the SEC.
That’s Charlie Weis and the fact that we are using a system that isn’t built for these players.
. Responsible for not recruiting depth at the quarterback position. (Right now it’s Brantley or no one.)
How in the freaking crap is this on Muschamp? He got Driskel and Brissett to sign. Among others. The fact that it is Brantley and then freshman is on Urban Meyer.
The Florida Gators seem destined for first losing season since 1979!
That’s not true. 6-6 is rather likely.
Responsible for allowing the team to achieve the distinction of being in the top 20 most penalized teams in all of college football.
I haven’t seen the numbers … so I don’t know.
Responsible for his own spastic behavior on the sidelines during games which, in my opinion, only serves to embolden the opposing team.
This is an issue, I agree.
Responsible for failing to recruit depth in players in key positions such as wide receiver, running back, and kicker.
He hasn’t been around for a full recruiting cycle. Again, this is on Urban.
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by FlaGators on Oct 29, 2011 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Did you see that he just joined AA a little bit ago? Hmmmmm……
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by Gators1 on Oct 29, 2011 9:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, I saw.
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My guess would be The Zooker.
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by FlaGators on Oct 31, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My man
Many issues. There has been two weeks of losing to awful teams, but what can you expect—we are a bad football team.
I feel coaching was poor this weekend, but we sent 4 lineman to the combine last year (JB was not put in a position to succeed). There were a lot of issues this week that nee to be fixed, running game at the top of the list
Yep.
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Coaching may have been poort
but the loss can basically be attributed to the two fumbles
October 28th, 2011-- a date which will live in infamy--
As can Auburn (kind of, sort of … maybe?)
RAINEY!!!
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He also dropped 2 balls right in his hands
One was for a sure TD.
October 28th, 2011-- a date which will live in infamy--
Yeah. We got lucky and still scored a TD and on the other one, he came right back and caught one for a first down. But still, wasted time, effort and energy.
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That second drop
would have been a TD. THen on the next play Hammond rooskies the ball for another UGA touchdown
This is so sad, but also so true.
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yes
maybe we should start a Rainey SUCKS post
that would be much better actually
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Time to die?
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Nah.
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That’s not true. 6-6 is rather likely
Don’t forget the bowl game….another likely loss (and that is assuming 6-6, which certainly is not a given right now!)
Well, at least we’ll more than likely get an easy bowl game.
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Really?
I know Vandy is improved but I’m still thinking that’s a pretty easy W, along with the garunteed W vs. Furman. 6-6 seems to be worst-case scenario here. I’m going with 7-5 because USCe looks pathetic.
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Apparently you missed the Vandy/Arky game on Saturday
Vandy pretty much manhandled the #10 team in the country all day. I know Arky is overrated, but they probably aren’t much different from UGA.
I agree.
I am a little worried about vandy but I must emphasize little. Vandy always has the one game that makes you go " oh damn vandy might be getting better." happens every year. But in all reality it’s still vandy.
by gatorempire127 on Oct 31, 2011 5:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Step away from the ledge, Jesse.
This is what a transition year looks like. Something has been seriously wrong with this team since 2009. Sans Tebow, that team would have lost multiple games as well. I don’t know how it all went to hell, but the last staff seems to have spent the better part of two years asleep at the wheel. The 2008 recruiting class essentially dissipated through transfers and getting booted from the team, 2009 was too small, and 2010 is looking like 2008 redux. We are on self-imposed probation for all intents and purposes and that is entirely on Meyer and Co.
FlaGators pretty much nailed it above, but I’d also add that firing a coach after one year for having a record one game worse than his predecessor is the height of lunacy. Coaches already know this is a high-pressure job with enormous expectations. If they know that they will not have at least a year to install their system and recruit a couple of classes of their guys, then this job will be seen as toxic. What coach would want to put himself in that kind of situation? You’re saddled with all of the same issues that got the previous guy canned and given no time to fix them. That sounds like it would snowball in a hurry.
Quick question for Andy and FlaGators: is there any way to prevent people from joining just to make one incendiary post? I know that Team Speed Kills has a 24-hour delay between joining and activation, and that might give some of these guys time to sober up/re-think their position/get bored and troll somewhere else before subjecting the rest of us to it.
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by car.full.of.midgets on Oct 31, 2011 8:54 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The thing that really bothers me is I don’t see us looking any better next season – in fact, we very well could be worse. If we get into a 5-7 situation, is that still a transitiion?
Meyer missed a few classes in a row
2008 and 2009 were not strong. 2010 may still pan out, although a lot of transfers have ruined the depth of even the sophomore class. Muschamp is starting off in much worse position than Meyer did. The Gators will probably have depth issues for at least another year, and maybe more. If it drags into 2013, then it’s Muschamp’s fault.
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by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Oct 31, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
If our recruiting class stays intact
and we still look this bad this late in the season next year, then the rumblings should rightly begin, especially if the East remains dreadful. I think the third year is an absolute make-it or break-it season and Foley treated Zook fairly in that regard, in my opinion at least. Any longer and you’re courting long-term mediocrity.
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by car.full.of.midgets on Oct 31, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure I have 3 years of patience for this
I agree that Meyer was left in a much better position. But Zook was left in a similar situation as we all know Spurrier dogged the recruiting part of his job the last couple years. Still, Zook put together teams much better than this one and won 8 games his first two years….
Also, I would be surprised if we don’t lose quite a few of these verbals. Would you be interested in playing for the Gators right now?! If I’m Mike Davis, I’m looking at Gillislee on the bench and seriously rethinking my decision.
He also had Chris Leak, and about 20 other NFL level talents
Leak was a damn good QB, despite his more than occasional brain farts and the very meh attitude that he’s remembered with. Brantley is not good, and the freshmen are nowhere near college ready. Maybe next year will be better, maybe it won’t. Muschamp walked into the worst personnel situation Florida has faced in a long time, though.
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by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Oct 31, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
but not making use of talent he has
reed is better than eithr freshman, so why was he and 3 others at tight end? seems poor use of talent
why don’t gilleslie and burton see more time, both have experience and burton is big
i just don’t see an efficient use of personnel, particularly on offense
TLR is gone, long live the king
I think the problem with Reed
Is he cannot learn plays. Remember last season when Burton had to direct him when Reed was playing QB?? This season he has shown he cannot run routes either.
by skigator93 on Nov 1, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
IF only AC was healthy
Here’s to Kent Taylor and Colin Thompson … we need you
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Reed is the best TE on the team
that’s probably why he isn’t playing QB. That and the fact that while he could throw better than Burton, he can’t read the field at all. If Brantley could actually hit a WR in stride consistently, Reed would probably get a lot of media attention.
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by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Nov 1, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
It definitely won't be fun if they keep playing the way they have over the past month
but pulling the trigger more quickly on a coach doesn’t really solve the roster problems or get the young guys more experience.
If I were a recruit at any offensive position other than maybe QB, I’d be licking my chops because of the chance for early playing time at a recently-elite SEC school. That’s probably the best hook the recruiters have left at this point. On defense, the last two years have shown that we’re not afraid to let guys play early, but maybe the recruit sees that as an indication that they’ll be sitting for at least half their career due to those guys holding down starting jobs. Of course, that’s trying to think about it as a rational (if not disinterested) adult, which isn’t a strong suit for most 17 to 18 year-old males.
You’re right that the seeming unwillingness to use Gilly when healthy could be cause for Davis to reconsider his commitment, and that is worrisome. Maybe the coaches can find a way to spin that into a positive by saying they see something specific in his game that Gillislee doesn’t show, like pass catching or blocking.
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by car.full.of.midgets on Oct 31, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I've heard the blocking knock on Gillislee
but I am willing to sacrifice that skill in a RB given that our entire OL can’t block either.
well i saw and see wm as just another coach
no special talents or track record to attract talent
maybe better than derek d, but maybe not
weiss sucked at nd, and he sucks here
TLR is gone, long live the king
It definitely won't be fun if they keep playing the way they have over the past month
but pulling the trigger more quickly on a coach doesn’t really solve the roster problems or get the young guys more experience.
If I were a recruit at any offensive position other than maybe QB, I’d be licking my chops because of the chance for early playing time at a recently-elite SEC school. That’s probably the best hook the recruiters have left at this point. On defense, the last two years have shown that we’re not afraid to let guys play early, but maybe the recruit sees that as an indication that they’ll be sitting for at least half their career due to those guys holding down starting jobs. Of course, that’s trying to think about it as a rational (if not disinterested) adult, which isn’t a strong suit for most 17 to 18 year-old males.
You’re right that the seeming unwillingness to use Gilly when healthy could be cause for Davis to reconsider his commitment, and that is worrisome. Maybe the coaches can find a way to spin that into a positive by saying they see something specific in his game that Gillislee doesn’t show, like pass catching or blocking.
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by car.full.of.midgets on Oct 31, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Can us old farts still make incendiary comments from time to time?
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
You're alright for a Nole, so fire away!
I just hope November 27th finds you short of ammo.
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by car.full.of.midgets on Oct 31, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, we can do that same sort of anti-incendiary thing.
I’ve had it at zero for the purposes of building the community (I don’t think too many people read posts, go to join, and then complete the process if they realize they can’t comment immediately), but it’s worth re-evaluating.
by Andy Hutchins on Oct 31, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for looking into it.
These drive-by’s are tiresome.
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by car.full.of.midgets on Oct 31, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I know it's irritating
But who knows how many of those drive-bys might force some other “good” posters (not that I believe there are any inherently “good” Florida Gator posters, just “alright”) to join your ranks and discuss?
I work for MTV and I can tell you without a doubt that from a marketing standpoint, even negative publicity is good publicity. In fact, one of the vice presidents once told me that “Even when it’s bad, you want people talking about you. When people stop talking about you, that’s when you have to start worrying.”
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Oh yeah, definitely don't want to stifle the discourse.
This place has really livened up over the past few months. I used to read it about twice weekly when mlm was running the show, but the comments section wasn’t as engaging. Back then, I liked the writing, but I just didn’t feel compelled to join in the discussion. Now, I read it almost daily and comment when I have the time, and I see the other Gators from EDSBS migrating over on occasion as well.
The last thing we should do is become the type of community where orthodoxy is enforced and new people who may disagree are discouraged from joining. I’ve heard Noles make that criticism of Warchant from time to time, usually accompanied by something to the effect of “That’s why I no longer post there.”
Are you perchance one of the guys responsible for resurrecting Beavis and Butthead on the network? I saw it on the other night and had a flashback to high school.
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by car.full.of.midgets on Oct 31, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh no
I am a low man on the totem pole in the grand scheme of things.
Happy to have B&B back though :)
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Indeed!
Mike Judge is a national treasure.
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by car.full.of.midgets on Oct 31, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m going to go against probably the popular sentiment. But growing up … I was never that much of a fan of Bevis and Butthead. I was however, a big fan of King of The Hill though. So … yeah, Mike Judge isn’t all that bad. Maybe it is because King of The Hill was starting out as I was entering HS.
His movies aren’t really that great either IMO.
Office Space – Meh. I’ve watched it once a couple of years ago, not worth the hype.
Idiocracy – Brilliant.
Extract – Decent.
Spy Kids – No idea.
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I can't believe I haven't seen Extract,
looking at the cast and considering Judge directed it.
To me, Office Space was a near-perfect dissection of cubicle-farm inanity. The convoluted chain of command, the knowledge that your position may be cut by some suit through no real fault of your own, the forced “team” functions, etc. were things I encountered in real life when I found myself working in a large insurance service center years after seeing the movie.
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by car.full.of.midgets on Oct 31, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Extract is alright. It’s not great, but at the same time, it is far from terrible. I think that if it was maybe developed (characters, plot) a little more, it could have been a lot better.
As for Office Space, that’s probably why I don’t like it as much. I’ve never worked in one of those settings …
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Consider yourself lucky, brother.
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by car.full.of.midgets on Oct 31, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha. Well, to be honest, I’ve always kind of wanted to work in a setting like that.
Little basketball hoop above the trash can, sending fake memo’s … just general office shenanigans!
But every time I tell someone that, they always say the con’s outweigh any pro’s. Like you have alluded to.
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Yeah, that's really part of it, too.
And I know I’m going to have to shoot down trolling/baiting columns in the next few months. Discussion and debate are important, even if it’s “This is stupid; here’s why” stuff.
by Andy Hutchins on Oct 31, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
(I don’t think too many people read posts, go to join, and then complete the process if they realize they can’t comment immediately)
This is true. There are some blogs on here, that I’ll join and then see that I can’t post and as a result, I’ll leave the blog and never go back.
Though the ones I’m a member of, I’ve waited, mostly because I REALLY REALLY wanted to say something. But short of that … if there is a block for a day or two days in some case, I’ll just say “screw it” and forget about it.
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Quick question for Andy and FlaGators: is there any way to prevent people from joining just to make one incendiary post? I know that Team Speed Kills has a 24-hour delay between joining and activation, and that might give some of these guys time to sober up/re-think their position/get bored and troll somewhere else before subjecting the rest of us to it.
I do think that we could go for a set of rules or whatever you want to call it … that include something like:
- First post can’t be a FanPost (there are many blogs in the network that have this rule)
I think it works/has worked for a lot of blogs.
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Go back to the ledge Jesse
Jane get me off this crazy thing called Accountability. We are in the SEC East and this was the easy year. Don’t get me wrong. I don’t expect to beat Alabama and LSU this year but I do expect to beat Auburn and UGA. Foley made a quick decision to hire Muschamp when there were several viable candidates for the job. Lets face it, this is Ron Zook all over again and next year and the year after, we still have abysmal seasons.
Is there any more room on that ledge, Jesse?
You sir are screaming at the walls
This is positively your dialogue
I’m an idiot! (Echo) You’re an idiot! Fine. I’m going to whisper so softly that by the time my voice has time to reverberate off the walls and gets back to me, I won’t be able to hear it. (Echo) You’re an idiot!
Perfect (pur-fec-t): the only person on earth, besides Tim Tebow, in the 21st century to be without fault is gatorhippy.
You're a joke
Get the hell out of Gator Nation if you really believe this. We don’t want you. If you’re a student – drop out. If you’re a sidewalk fan – good riddance. You make no sense and you’re polluting the atmosphere for the rest of us. Kindly fuck right off.
There are many problems & shortcomings with this team, top to bottom. Coaching might be one of them. But in no way should opinions like this even get bounced around 8 games into their first season. Seriously, get gone. U of F is not for you. I whole-heartedly look forward to fuckwits like you hopping off the Gator bandwagon in the months and years ahead.
I'm not going to a country that confuses itself with poultry. Never.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Oct 31, 2011 2:14 PM EDT reply actions 12 recs
Burbz outta nowhere with the chairshot!
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by car.full.of.midgets on Oct 31, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
So potent a shot
I had to log in to rec it.
I witnessed the Kentucky - Western Kentucky derpfest of '11 and survived to tell the tale
Comments like this make me grow a big rubbery one.
Sorry for the lame Fight Club reference but it worked.
by gatorempire127 on Oct 31, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Spot on.
you sir just got a fan for life.
not sure if serious
If this post is sarcasm, it was one of the feeblest attempts I have ever seen in any medium.
If serious, you missed your calling in life, the Nole and Cane fan bases are your true domain.
As it stands, this is, hands down, the worst post, fan or otherwise, I have ever read on this site, and am embarrassed that it is in any way related to Florida.
32% Yes?????
STEP AWAY FROM THE LEDGE PEOPLE!
by ParadigmShift35 on Oct 31, 2011 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
No,
go ahead and step forward and take a bow, you shold be proud of yourselves.
Really.
This has got to be one of the worst/non-sensible posts I’ve ever read…
Listen to them, the children of the night. What sweet music they make.
You should visit Tomahawknation sometimes
We’ve got some realy head-scratchers in the Fanposts/shots from time to time.
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The comment section gets carried away sometimes.
Like the fire everyone campaign after the Wake game.
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You should've read it before I edited it.
by Andy Hutchins on Oct 31, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Thankfully though, a lot of it is within my quote-reply response. Or would that be un-thankfully? If there is such a thing as that. Haha.
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lol
I didn’t realize you edited it. I first read this about an hour or so ago in the FanPost section. Didn’t think it was worth bashing at the time. Then I saw it posted on the home page….
Listen to them, the children of the night. What sweet music they make.
I want it on the record, that I was not the one who moved it to the front page.
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Buuut....
You did vote yes, right?
haha
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I see how you played that.
But I voted “No”
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As Gators1 alluded to near the top, this might be a “post and run” type of deal.
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NO, for a while
But we need to see some improvement…
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I bleed Orange & Blue.
I believed this was a real post until #7.
As a fellow Troll, good work sir.
For the record, Muschamp has recruited depth at kicker and RB. WR is still lacking, but if we land Agholor and Diggs (two of the best WRs in the nation), that will fill that hole rather nicely.
Oh, come on. Don't leave your uncle T-bag hangin'.
You guys can have Diggs
But please, please screw up somewhere in Agholor’s recruitment.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
I want Agholor more than any other player this year.
So, no. :-)
You guys ate our lunch last year, so I think it’s our turn. Meyer’s love of the big-name national prospect has atrophied our Florida recruiting, and this is a great year to get it back on track.
Come on down, Nelson!
Oh, come on. Don't leave your uncle T-bag hangin'.
Wow..
I find it hard to believe that this is a topic. Yes we have problems…show me a top team that hasn’t cycled through to where we are in time. It will continue cycling and go away. Patience people!!! I have been a life long Gator Fan and will be for life. I am sure that there are “gator fans” here that want Musschamp gone. How old are you future Gator Haters….do you remember Donald Douglas…..Reeves to Alvarez? Give me a break!!! Every team has em……do you know want it means when they say “Through ALL kinds of weather we’ll all stick together” If not….take off the Orange and Blue and give it to someone that Love’s the Gators!!!!!!
BON has “picked up” this post.
http://www.burntorangenation.com/2011/10/31/2526411/is-anyone-reassessing-muschamp
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Hopefully they pick up that everyone in this thread laughed at the idea
October 28th, 2011-- a date which will live in infamy--
Not quite.
WanderingHorn: …the responses are not entirely dismissive.
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Reading is obviously not a strong point out there
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Might be fun to play around with them a bit FlaGators
Just link one of their headlines (maybe the 43-0 K State blowout?) with something like “And while not outright calling for Mack Brown to be fired, the Texas ilk have not been entirely dismissive of the idea”
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err Kansas even
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Haha … Devilishly good. And fitting as well, due to it being Halloween and all.
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Excellent job of heading over there and setting the record straight in a much better way than I did.
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Of course.
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The comment can be made that he knew (or at least studied) the depth chart before accepting the position.
But to call out HIS specific recruiting when everyone that signed with us (him) is just a freshman is idiotic.
Year 2 and 3 will tell us if the coaching staff is the true issue. And it may not even show in direct wins/losses. The development of the talent that was left over and the maturation of the Muschamp recruits will dictate that whether Muschamp can recruit/coach.
My only fears are that Charlies history with ND may repeat itself. Again, we are 8 games in.
Until this point next year, I have to defer my strictest judgment.
But I am afraid for our offense after watching yesterdays game. Our D wasn’t any better, but they’ve at least been consistent.
...I can count my years in scars...
I think he's recruiting the right guys.
Now it’s a matter of landing them. So far, so good. We’ll see in February.
Oh, come on. Don't leave your uncle T-bag hangin'.
and getting them to work hard and get better
seems we have an over supply of primadonnas
TLR is gone, long live the king
And if he decided to clear them all out
all we’d have is 3 walk-ons, a few practice squad guys, and a bull horn.
Most of the players who make it to college have ALWAYS been the BEST player on their team (pee-wee, middle school, high school). So in theory, they are all prima donnas. They’ve always been told how good they were.
...I can count my years in scars...
by Boozy McHound on Nov 1, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe we can just start over like in Necessary Roughness
“…and in comes the Armadillo defense consisting of one Eric ‘Samarai’ Hanson!”
I’ll bet Sinbad would play linebacker for us – didn’t he play at Growl one year?
The biggest problem...
I think the biggest issue right now is OL play, which I think can probably be attributed to 1) depth and 2) failure to develop the younger guys the past 2 years under Addazio. I don’t know of any other program where the OL coach is also the OC, and from what I understand, the OL drills separately from the rest of the O at times, so your OC can’t be in two places at once. Our guys on the OL have looked lost at times, not to mention Nixon’s penchant for jumping offside every other play.
Although I wonder if the UGA game was not similar to the mistake we made in ’07. Tebow was injured against UK the week before (right shoulder contusion) heading into the UGA game with no bye week, so Mullen decided to make him a pocket passer. Suddenly, the OL was doing something they were not accustomed to doing – creating and sustaining a pocket – and UGA ate their lunch to the tune of 6 or 7 sacks. Not that our OL has done anything well this season, but in ’07 they were serviceable until the UGA game. So I wonder if there was something they were asked to do this week that was different than normal that was creating confusion…
So I wonder if there was something they were asked to do this week that was different than normal that was creating confusion…
Interesting look at things. Hadn’t considered that.
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The line's struggled mightily in shotgun all year.
I would guess that more than 60% of the sacks have come from shotgun sets.
by Andy Hutchins on Oct 31, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
One would think, that it would be harder to sack a QB out of the shot-gun. But these Gators are a little different.
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Would be interesting to see some numbers based on shotgun vs under center and then 3-step, 5-step, 7-step drops, etc. to see how it breaks down. Obviously, there wasn’t an option this week, but having a back in the backfield so there is at least the threat of run would have helped. I still think we need to start using Joyer and Burton more as our big back, especially since Burton can’t seem to block out of the backfield worth a darn.
If not as a running back, use them for protection in the backfield at least.
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Precisely. Just run them often enough to keep the D honest. They know one-legged Brantley isn’t going anywhere. That was the key with Tebow in ‘07. They knew he would not take off, so they rushed him all the time. It was like we handed them our playbook. We should have had some sort of change in the game plan Saturday to offset the adjustments they made as the game went on. Our stats were great for the first quarter, OK for the second, and just downright abysmal for the entire second half. Give UGA credit for making adjustments, but Weis needs to counteract that, and I don’t think he changed anything. And for Pete’s sake, if we’re going to run the wildcat, do it with Jordan Reed and not Burton!
by Andrew Nordine on Oct 31, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed 1,000,000%.
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This has gotta be a joke right?
Oh wait I get it this is the “trick” in “trick or treat”. Well I’m sorry Jesse you don’t get a treat for this one. Hows about we don’t fire anybody because it’s their first year in charge. Good things come to those who wait Gators, our time will come again.
by gatorempire127 on Oct 31, 2011 5:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I’m too old for the tricks!!! Just give me the damn treats!!!
(Me saying “too old” sounds really, really weird)
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Haha
Screw treats I’ll take a beer
by gatorempire127 on Oct 31, 2011 5:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Perfectly acceptable.
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Billy Madison'ed
What you just so was the most insanely idiotic thing I’ve ever heard. At no point in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul
by ParadigmShift35 on Oct 31, 2011 5:56 PM EDT reply actions 9 recs
Rec the man!!!!!!!
Awesome comment. Couldn’t have put it better.
by gatorempire127 on Oct 31, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
I rushed to get it up in time (TWSS? Nope, doesn’t work)
by ParadigmShift35 on Nov 1, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought about posting that
Perfect (pur-fec-t): the only person on earth, besides Tim Tebow, in the 21st century to be without fault is gatorhippy.
so, FlaGator, I will ask you again...
what do u think the spread will be for the FSU vs UF game?
I'm not FlaGator
but FSU by a TD as of now + or – 1 point sounds about right.
by ParadigmShift35 on Nov 1, 2011 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I said at TN yesterday, at this point, I’m penciling in a 14 point victory for FSU. But I would have the spread, since Vegas likes to give 3 points to the home team … FSU – 10.
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wow, that changed...
Idk 10 seems like a lot in gainesville, maybe its because i have been scarred after the 6 years but i was thinking 7. Idk, i def think everyone though UF was going to better as a team
Well, facts are facts….in 4 years at UGA, he was never on a team that beat UF, and in one year at UF, he has proven he can’t beat an average UGA team. We will be lucky to finish out the season at 6-6, and that’s only if we beat Vandy, which after watching their game with Arkansas this past Saturday, we stand a good chance of losing. That makes Furman the only sure (sic) win left on the schedule. I was at the spring game…did no one else see this catastrophe coming??? He and his staff had 5 more months before the regular season to correct problems, but overall, there has been ZERO improvement. So…now everyone hopes that another year will improve the situation. Right. If muschamp were a stock in your portfolio, how long would you ride out a loser before you decided it was time to cut your losses? I have yet to hear one person who has made a good case for hiring a coach with NO head coaching experience, never played on any kind of a championship team, that even SOS would not waste his time on. If you haven’t already guessed, I am an obvious “YES”.
Yes, two thirds of one season
is ample time to judge a coach. You, sir are the embodiment of reason and comportment. I can’t believe Muschamp took our world-beating 2010 squad and turned them into this. He really should be run out of town on a rail. First year coaches frequently win championships, so it’s completely realistic to expect a seamless transition in the toughest conference in the country.
You’re right that Foley should have chosen a coach who played on championship teams, since everyone knows both Meyer and Spurrier played on championship teams in college. Chris Petersen was the obvious choice, since coaches hired out of Boise State have such an amazing track record at bigger programs.
Did you get lost on your way to the Mensa website?
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by car.full.of.midgets on Nov 1, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
He's an offense-oriented guy, right?
Admittedly, I don’t know much about him. Do you think he has the drive to lead a top flight program?
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by car.full.of.midgets on Nov 2, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
consider yourself lucky I'm in a better mood than I was yesterday.
but just b/c I’m not reaming you doesn’t mean you’re not full of shit.
I'm not going to a country that confuses itself with poultry. Never.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 1, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I will say that it is a bit disappointing to get a Saban guy
and not have the trademarks of a Saban coached team like discipline or strong fundamentals. Granted, Muschamp should get at least a couple of years to turn down the depth around, but if they don’t improve just fundamental football playing without all these dumb mistakes by next year, I’ll start feeling an itchy trigger finger to jettison this staff for a guy with a head coaching record.
Saban's first year at Bama didn't go so hot
And he didn’t have the gauntlet we have had this year.
You know you’re season is bad when you lose to Louisana Monroe at home.
Perfect (pur-fec-t): the only person on earth, besides Tim Tebow, in the 21st century to be without fault is gatorhippy.
He was also coming off one of the worst stints Alabama has had complete with probation
He wasn’t one year removed from an undefeated regular season
Good point
but you could say with the roster depth that Florida is virtually in the same place.
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This should have been deleted.
Not promoted.
by Devil's Advocate on Nov 1, 2011 8:23 AM EDT reply actions
It shouldn't have been fronted.
I realize that now.
by Andy Hutchins on Nov 1, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
it's the vitriol
not the acceptance
Perfect (pur-fec-t): the only person on earth, besides Tim Tebow, in the 21st century to be without fault is gatorhippy.
Last weeks performance had me searching...
for the fire Will Muschamp Website. Any truth to the rumor that Foley locked it up the day he hired Willie? What are the chances that out of all the Saban proteges we get the one who is destined to go the least far? Just asking, not that I ever thought Saban was any good himself but he has been elevated to God like status along with the dunce on the bayou due to the vacuum we have created here in G’ville.
A loyal booster bought the domain name
to keep it out of the hands of reactionary nitwits. A very prescient move in my estimation.
Transition years suck, but they’re a fact of life in college football. Notre Dame, Michigan, and Alabama have all had losing seasons in the past decade. We haven’t. We are not magically immune to roster attrition and injuries just because of the Gators script on the side of the helmets or the block F at midfield.
If we still suck this badly next October, then feel free to pick up your torches and pitchforks. For the time being, try some patience. Failing that, repeat to yourself, “This is a transition year. At least we aren’t Tennessee.”
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by car.full.of.midgets on Nov 1, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
"Reactionary nitwits" would be..
locking up the “HireRonZook” domain name. Not that I would go that far understand but spaz me on the mattresses here to my flag flying SEC neighbors on my block. And I’m talking Kentucky, Vandy and …well fill in the blank.
Good point!
My future father-in-law is a Penn State alum. I told him weeks ago not to worry about their game against Illinois (who was undefeated at the time), and as predicted, the Zooker Zooked up.
I hate to say it, but this really is a wait-til-next-year team. The defense is starting to come together. UGA’s 3 TD drives totaled 88 yards combined, so it’s not like they were driving the length of the field. In fact, that averages out to starting each drive inside the UF 30. Talk about being put in a bad position.On the two passing TD’s, we had corners in position, but they didn’t get their heads around fast enough to make the play. That’s the kind of thing that can improve with coaching and experience.
I’ll admit that I’m starting to be concerned with the offense, but I’ll reserve judgment until we have a running back who outweighs the waterboys, receivers with hands that function marginally better than hooves, and something resembling depth on the o-line. We got into this mess through recruiting, and it’s recruiting that must save us.
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by car.full.of.midgets on Nov 2, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
ATTENTION
At least our team is not being coached by the man responsible for this:
I'm not going to a country that confuses itself with poultry. Never.
Did she paint her face
or is it red from burying her face in that dude’s chest to avoid witnessing the Divemaster’s offense?
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by car.full.of.midgets on Nov 2, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Carrie: Pennsylvania Edition?
...I can count my years in scars...
by Boozy McHound on Nov 2, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Really!? a dumbshit article already?!
I can’t believe that the assholes are out in full force at only 8 games in. I bet your favorite food is instant mac, because you have the patience of a 80 year old with a bladder infection.
What’s even more startling is that there are 212 other fuck sticks that think the same thing. Please, burn all your Orange and Blue stuff and go be UM fans. You’ll feel right at home with the way you team bash.
you’re pathetic…
GO MF’n GATORS!
by Jon Heist on Nov 2, 2011 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That is precisely the type of well thought out response...
that you saw in the early days of the FRZ site. If mediocrity were the norm here at UF I would be embracing this guy like a closing time Dirty Nelly snaggle tooth. Not that I’m saying he is mediocore (average at best for you liberal arts types) but lions don’t need to roar and I have yet to see a winner spaz out like that come game time and last very long. But as a whit if he and Charlie lose to say Vandy will you still be a ball washerl for him. Oh and don’t knock Instant Mac, it will give you more time waste here each day.
’Rec.
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Poor coaching
Muschamp should be fired because his team is poorly coached. There is a TON of talent on that field every Saturday. Demps dropping that many punts, inexcusible, the penalties, that’s poor coaching, the fumbles, poor coaching. WTF does a bad player have anything to do with holding on to the dam football???? Nothing, poor tech. is allowed in practice and thereby transfers over to the games. I understand some of the offense issues with the new system etc., but the special teams have been horrible and the defense is quite mediocre with what should have been the best front 7 in the country. It is POOR coaching, no if’s and’s or but’s about it. We are back in the Zook era and if Muschamp is not fired after this season you get 3 years of 7-5 and we get to disappear again and be the SEC’s bitch. This goes back to Jeremy Foley and his not re-hiring Steve Spurrier, AND allowing Spurrier to get away in the first place. Foley got lucky with Urban Meyer, but Meyer is a pussy and couldn’t stand the big boy game so he got out (he also saw the writing on the wall when all of his assistants left). We could have gone after Gary Patterson or Al Golden, and many more other better HC candidates, but Foley, the idiot that he is, jumped the gun again and prematurely ejaculated the mess we are watching every Saturday this season. Thanks Foley!
He beat Vandy
the only auto-fire clause in UF football contracts is “loss to Vandy at home”. Since that didn’t happen, there’s no reason to act stupid about it and fire a first year coach (which is still totally stupid, even with a loss to Vandy, but justifiable because FLORIDA DOESN’T LOSE TO VANDY.)
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by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Nov 7, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
despite
a couple of tasteless personal attacks, I feel like this has been a valid discussion. I’m glad to have found this site.
+1
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by Fabio Broncos on Nov 30, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Muschamp in over his head
Jeremy Foley should have known not to hire someone without head coaching experience. It has really showed in the close games that could have been won, most notably the Georgia game. Florida has had 2 head coaches that won national titles here, and they both shared 2 notable traits: they had prior, significant head coaching experience, and they were both offensive coaches, really gurus, in their respective schemes. Will Muschamp has neither. This ‘coach in waiting’ concept is alot of BS, as FSU is also finding out. UF is not the type of school that you can learn on the job – there just is no substitute for prior head coaching experience.
At least Ron Zook had sense enough to keep alot of Spurrier’s Fun and Gun when he took over, and he also beat both UGA and FSU in his first year, while going 2-1 against our 2 hated rivals during his tenure. This new offense may work against UAB and FAU, but it’s predictable and plodding against good SEC teams. How are you going to recruit fine wideouts like Julio Jones or AC Green if most of your passes go to the backs or the tight ends?
I’d sure like to know why Foley never bothered to call Chris Peterson at Boise State to begin his search, as he has good experience, has shown he can play with the big boys (by beating OU, VTech and UGA), and runs a high-powered spread which would suit either of our frehman QB’s. And since their colors are blue and orange, he wouldn’t have had to change his wardrobe too much.
I really hope I’m proven wrong, but right now it seems like we are in for a steady diet of Gator, Liberty, Sun, Bluebonnet and/or Holiday Bowl appearances. I haven’t been this depressed about UF football since I witnessed Scot Brantley get kneed in the head against Georgia Tech early in the winless 1979 campaign…
Funny. This was a homerun of a hire less than a year ago.
Jeremy Foley should have known not to hire someone without head coaching experience.
http://www.alligatorarmy.com/2011/1/3/1910290/grade-will-muschamps-hires
Excellent hires and I give it an A grade until proven otherwise.
I am not too worried about who the D Coord is since the head coach is one of the best in the biz.
Aubrey Hill was a major coup.
So they kept their California presence, got a foothold in Miami and a now have a Texas presence.
Big things await the U of F.
by GatorPhoenix on Jan 3, 2011 9:56 AM EST reply actions
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Muschamp is on FIRE!! To go get a coach like weis from the nfl is huge. Also, we kept some guys on our staff which is honorable. We are going to be like the 33rd professional team. And a belichick player farm lol
by GoNuckingFuts on Jan 3, 2011 12:17 PM EST reply actions
Nice legs. What time do they open?
by Nole Resurrected on Dec 1, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
THAT didn't turn out like I wanted it, but
It’s still readable.
Nice legs. What time do they open?
by Nole Resurrected on Dec 1, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
....and got a half dollar sized bruise on his brain.
Tough hombre. I agree with everything you said. Both Coaches that won National titles here were innovators who brought a style to the league that was heretofore unseen at the time. I have yet to see what WM brings and please don’t point to the FSU game. Charleston Southern and Wake Forrest dropped more points on FSU then we did.
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