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Florida Vs. South Carolina Rapid Recap: Gators Secure Losing SEC Season With 17-12 Anti-Win

Florida lost to South Carolina, 17-12, on Saturday. We'll look back at the Gators' effor in at multiple parts: The Rapid Recap, which reacts to the game in full before a second viewing, comes first.

This was the 2011 Florida Gators season in a game: John Brantley was under siege thanks to an offensive line that could barely block, Florida's receivers were almost nonexistent, one quarkback made a bunch of plays while another made a big mistake, the secondary had one major mishap, the defense got pressure but not enough, and a running game wore down a defense that couldn't get itself off the field or get much of a breather when the offense wore down. Oh, and the second half featured Florida trying and failing to come back late.

Some things just don't change.

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How Florida Lost

Florida hasn't come back from a halftime deficit in 2011, so it's tempting to say that going into the locker room down 14-3 was a sign that this was going to be a loss, but it was really Florida's two-point conversion failure that killed the Gators. If Jacoby Brissett can find someone on that play, it's a tie game, and the Gators aren't more than a field goal behind after South Carolina's next drive, and who knows, right?

But that was really just the final nail in the coffin; Florida's offense abandoning its defense, which struggled with Connor Shaw's option running all day, happened early and often.

Outstanding

Chris Rainey had 132 yards, the most he's had in 2011, and had the biggest play by either team on the day on a 47-yard scamper. He also showed a lot better discipline as a one-cut runner than usual, and, considering he was caught from behind on that long run, had essentially the same burst and speed as ever. If he and Jeff Demps are both healthy again, finally, Florida might have a full complement of running backs not named Mike Gillislee to give carries before Mike Gillislee.

John Brantley's toughness is sort of beyond reproach at this point. He should probably book a couple of months in an ice tank, beginning moments after Florida's potential bowl game. And though he hasn't been great since getting hurt, except for short stretches, he still gives Florida its best chance to win. That counts for something.

Meanwhile, Jacoby Brissett is definitely both being deployed correctly (in goal line situations that make run-pass options more valuable) and making the most of his chances. If the 2012 season began tomorrow, I would assume Brissett would not only be Florida's starter, but also have a major lead on Jeff Driskel on the depth chart.

De'Ante Saunders' pick, the first of his career, was a wonderful read of Connor Shaw's eyes and an even better break on the ball from a very deep position. Saunders has been reduced to cinders in man coverage this season, but that play in zone was Ahmad Black-esque and really, really tantalizing work from a young guy who could be a major part of Florida's defense for years to come.

Encouraging

Florida can't really pass block, but it has figured out how to run block effectively more often than not, and does so even late into the game. That's how Rainey got up to 132 yards, with late runs for five, eight, 10 yards. And those aren't all Rainey making things happen on his own.

Once again, Florida's defensive line got pressure, but not sacks. (Yep, I reused this.) But only South Carolina going almost exclusively to a read option prevented the Gators from having a big day up front; they had the Gamecocks dead to rights when Shaw was dropping back early on.

Jordan Reed and A.C. Leonard both had multiple catches, which, whee, tight ends.

Take away a Shaw bomb to Ace Sanders, and South Carolina's offense only had 38 passing yards. Yay for only getting destroyed in one defensive facet!

Needs Improvement

Brantley's still too quick to check down and not accurate enough under pressure, which is totally okay because we have a lot of games left in this season for him to improve on that.

I really had no idea it was that hard for a team to figure out that an offense was going to be running the ball on almost every snap. But Florida's young defense is great at finding new ways to be both better than most realize and ultimately underwhelming.

Florida had two possessions with goal to go that turned into field goals. I understand that Gillislee is probably a risk to spontaneously combust if he lines up on offense, but there are almost certainly better ways to approach goal line offense than Florida's current "throw short of the goal line repeatedly" and "toss a pretty fade to a tight end who trips over himself and then asks for a flag."

Embarrassing

Deonte Thompson was the only Florida receiver to make a catch, and made three of them, which I would put in Encouraging if not for the fact that there is a decent chance that will be his best game of the year. Oh, and FLORIDA'S RECEIVERS MADE THREE CATCHES AS A UNIT.

Tim Brando gave the worst play-by-play call I've heard in recent memory, failing repeatedly to call the action correctly on the field, relying on talk-radio schtick, and at one point calling Connor Shaw Case Keenum for no apparent reason. Never again, CBS.

Stats and Miscellany Dump

Rainey rushed for 132 yards, a season high, and is at 658 rushing yards for the season. He'll need to average 114 yards per game over Florida's next three games (assuming, of course, that the Gators beat either Furman or Florida State to earn a bowl berth) to become UF's first 1,000-yard rusher since Ciatrick Fason. ... A.C. Leonard had two catches in the game, a new career high, and double what he had on the season coming in. I now pronounce the Scouting Report curse dead. ... As noted by The Independent Florida Alligator writer Greg Luca, Florida's allowed nine fourth down conversions in 10 tries in its last five games.

Previously in Rapid Recaps: Florida AtlanticUAB, Tennessee.

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Yeah, also, I want to say that I’ll be doing Theater of Operation posts Sunday and Monday instead of Monday and Tuesday so that Tuesday can be all about the basketball game.

The things I do for y’all.

Give, give … give.

;-)

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by FlaGators on Nov 12, 2011 8:05 PM EST reply actions  

BASEketball?

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by FlaGators on Nov 12, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re turning into the football team:more gives than takes.

by GatorJustin on Nov 12, 2011 8:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I’m ready for baseball and track season.

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by FlaGators on Nov 12, 2011 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

After calming down

I’ve come to realize a positive: as frustrating as this team has been, we’ve been in every game this season except against the two elites. Weve done pretty well Considering our lack of depth and our personnel doesn’t match the systems we are trying to run. Auburn, Georgia, and south Carolina have had 3 years + to recruit for their system.

by GatorJustin on Nov 12, 2011 8:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I think that’s fair. Also, love the silver lining.

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by FlaGators on Nov 12, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Many gold liquids contributed to that but im pretty sure I’ll feel that way in the morning. Could live without all the turnovers and penalties though.

by GatorJustin on Nov 12, 2011 8:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, that stuff probably isn’t going to change until next year.

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by FlaGators on Nov 12, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd be more inclined to be positive

if we were a balanced sort of bad. But we’re not. We’re massively awful on one side of the ball and good on the other.

Oh, come on. Don't leave your uncle T-bag hangin'.

by Troll2Troll on Nov 12, 2011 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

The offensive switch was a much more drastic switch than the defensive switch. The offense should be a lot further behind and they are. The o line and WRs are too small for this offense and the one RB who could run in this offense is always hurt (apparently).

by GatorJustin on Nov 12, 2011 10:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

It doesn’t help the Gators that Brantley was out for four weeks; that really hurt any chances to get your offense playing cohesively. On the other hand, those receivers….eeesh.

by BrotherFlounder on Nov 12, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Second that

Reed aside, even bad teams have better receivers than we do. Much better.

by htrcooler on Nov 12, 2011 11:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Brantley fits this system much better than the last one.

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by Sveet on Nov 13, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

So far I am on the Brisset band wagon as well. I don't mind driving it either...

I don’t care if Driskel was all world in high schoo. All I know is, next off season those two better bring it! lol

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by Hook85 on Nov 12, 2011 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

Brisset will be good.

I fear Driskel might be 50% talemt 50% hype, but its too early to tell. either way its nice to have options for next year.

I dont understand why your WRs are this bad. You guys recruit good ones.

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by Aaron Tampa Nole on Nov 13, 2011 2:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Aaand thassa rec

Though if I’m honest I also have to agree with paradigm-he’ll always be The Brisket in my book.

Go gata!

by theologator on Nov 13, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm in with Brissett as well.

Driskel looks like all he can do is run. He has thrown the ball very poorly in his limited opportunities.

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by Sveet on Nov 13, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

The Horror

I’m not sure that I’ve seen a worse pass-blocking offensive line in the history of college football. It’s definitely basketball season.

by CanWeBeMature on Nov 12, 2011 11:27 PM EST reply actions  

This is extremely frustrating

It’s pretty obvious that South Carolina was going to run the ball more times than not and we still couldn’t do anything for the most part (story of our whole season). Our front seven has shown glimpses of their potential, but they aren’t consistent besides Easley/Floyd and maybe Bostic. Offensive line is pretty terrible and the WRs aren’t helping Brantley. Reed is going to beast and I still can’t figure out why we won’t use Gillislee. This is another game I think we should have won, but once again we can’t execute, prevent mistakes, and capitalize in the red zone.

by Braves24 on Nov 13, 2011 12:26 AM EST reply actions  

Well.

I always knew that too much Evan Williams Whiskey would be the death of me. I just never knew the gators would drive me to actually ale it happen. Hell I might chase shots of Evan with shots of Jose cuz that’s how pissed off this team makes me.

by gatorempire127 on Nov 13, 2011 12:44 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I just got home from the bar

and I just opened another beer. It’s one of those seasons.

Oh, come on. Don't leave your uncle T-bag hangin'.

by Troll2Troll on Nov 13, 2011 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I really want to see the Gators go up big on Furman early.

Mostly because I want them to be able to take Brantley out and insert Brissett and later Driskel, and take the reins off of them.

They may not have had a shot at the big boys (and the mediocre boys) of the SEC this year, but I see a lot of talent and promise in both of them. I want to see what they’re able to do with a bit less restricted playcalling because, well, Furman isn’t Alabama or LSU. Hopefully Weis lets them throw it downfield rather than just calling a handoff or a little screen.

by JGator45 on Nov 13, 2011 1:36 AM EST reply actions  

IF Florida isn't up big on Furman

I think we’ll see Gator fans truly melt down for the first time all year. I know I’ll be among them.

The defense is good enough for me to give Muschamp a pass thus far, but if Furman is in doubt in any way I’ll go full-on Shaggybevo on this place.

If you don’t know, shaggybevo is the psychotic Texas board that has the most epic meltdowns of any board or blog on the web. They’re almost scary in their ferocity. Half of them want to fire Mack Brown, despite the fact that he’s already got one NC and was [this close] to another 2 seasons ago. They’re a good time.

Oh, come on. Don't leave your uncle T-bag hangin'.

by Troll2Troll on Nov 13, 2011 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Blow out Furman

You do NOT want a bowl spot riding on beating FSU.
Not after that game. But since you’re going to beat Furman by 60 its a moot point.

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by Aaron Tampa Nole on Nov 13, 2011 2:53 AM EST up reply actions  

So what's the over/under for attendance next week?

75,000?

Whatever it is, I’m fairly certain it’ll be the smallest number in decades.

I vaguely remember UF playing MTSU or somebody on PPV some years ago, and the game got moved up because of a hurricane. I didn’t see the game, but supposedly the stadium was half empty or something. It was technically a sellout, but actual attendance was crap.

Oh, come on. Don't leave your uncle T-bag hangin'.

by Troll2Troll on Nov 13, 2011 2:22 AM EST reply actions  

We debated that on the other thread for Attendance at kickoff. We pretty much all agree it will be under 60,000 at kickoff.

I’m saying 50,000 at kickoff, 65,000 at the end of the first, but I’m sure the annonced attendance will be 85,000. I, for one, am glad the game is on PPV because it gives me a chance to get my life back on Saturdays. I won’t be making any attemps to watch this game, nor any other game. It’ll be nice to have a Saturday filled without shitty Florida Football.

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by Gators1 on Nov 13, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

In Other News

The Ice Hockey team has done pretty good. First in the conference!

http://www.zonethemes.com/ufhockey.org/

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by Tscott2015 on Nov 13, 2011 6:31 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Other than a token series to start, or some injuries

I’m not sure that Brantley needs to see a lot of playing time in these last two or three games. I like J.B., but, at this point, I don’t think the team is substantially better with him at quarterback than either Brisset or Driskel. While it isn’t really fair to him, the team has more to benefit one (or both) of the freshmen playing. Both of their redshirts have already been burned (I believe) meaning there is no downside to them playing more, there is however great upside to them playing more. These two (or three) games should be the preseason for next year, because the only achievable goals left on the table are 1) avoid a losing season, and 2) beat FSU.

I don’t question Brantley’s toughness, or drive, or desire, but the way the team is playing right now, I do not believe there is a substantial difference between how the team will perform with him at quarterback, or Brisset or Driskel taking snaps. The freshmen both offer more mobility than Brantley, who still appears to be a couple of steps slower after his high ankle sprain (watching him scramble in the second half reminded me of Bernie Kosar at the end of his career.), which is a big problem with an offensive line that makes the Maginot Line look good by comparison.

by NC_Gator on Nov 13, 2011 7:35 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah. I feel you. As one of the only people that has defended Brantley all season it’s hard for me to be okay with him being benched, but I see your point. I do think they should bench him for Furman and let him get healthy. Surely JB and JD could lead us to a victory over Furman?

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by Gators1 on Nov 13, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

If.

Furman does any of the following, you will see my face on the news for mass homicide.:
1. Score a touchdown.
2. Get within 20 points of Florida minus the first few minutes.
3. Holds Florida to under 30 points.
4. Gets a turn over on defense.
5. Run more than 100 yards in the game.
6. Pass for more than 150 yards in the game.
7. Make it so florida’s first team has to be in the game for more than the first half.

I am absolutely sick of being the SEC/top 25’s whipping boy this season. I’m as hardcore a gators fan as they come but this year is really really getting to me.

by gatorempire127 on Nov 13, 2011 10:04 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I’ll do this in percentages.

1. 75% chance of happening.
2. 25% chance of happening, though I’m saying at the start of the 2nd quarter.
3. 20% chance of happening.
4. 95% chance of happening.
5. 5% chance of happening.
6. 65% chance of happening.
7. 60% chance of happening, though mostly because I think most of them will play until the 4th anyway.

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by FlaGators on Nov 13, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Now that you got me thinking about it you are pretty much dead on, boom head shot. Very well said.

by gatorempire127 on Nov 13, 2011 7:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Without a doubt the worst Florida team in my lifetime.

The Zook era teams would kill this team. The SEC east is pathetic now compared to what it was when Zook coached.

I can’t help, but be extremely disappointed with the job done by this coaching staff. Our talent is at least equal if not better that of UGA, USC, and Auburn yet we are 0-3 in those games. Year 2 is when a new coaching staff usually sees a huge turnaround. If it is more of the same next year then I am done with Muschamp.

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by Sveet on Nov 13, 2011 10:29 AM EST reply actions  

I heard somewhere that this is the first losing season in SEC play since the early 80’s. I’m suprised Andy didn’t note that if that is infact true. That means that most of us weren’t alive the last time Florida had a losing record in SEC play.

Okay, lets do the math here.

Zook was 16-10 and 12-4 after his first 2 seasons in G-Ville.
Muschamp is 5-5 and 3-5 so far.

Even if Muschamp wins out this season, and goes undefeated next season he would still only be 11-5 in SEC play. So even with an undefeated season he still isn’t on RON FUCKING ZOOK’s level in SEC play. Let that sink in for a minute, and then go back to drinking heavily.

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by Gators1 on Nov 13, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

and take into account how much better UGA and Tenn were during the Zook years.

The Zook teams were actually pretty good, just very inconsistent and frustrating. They would lose to Ole Miss at home then go and beat future national champ and #6 ranked team at the time LSU on the road, beat a #11 Arkansas team on the road, and beat a #4 UGA team in jax.

The is Muschamp team is just god awful.

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by Sveet on Nov 13, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Here are ranked teams(ranking at the time of the game) that Zook beat

2002:

  1. Tennessee
  2. Georgia

2003:

  1. LSU
  2. Arkansas
  3. Georgia
  4. FSU*** Swindle is the Swamp. This was a win by all accounts. I’m not going to fault Zook for bad officiating

2004:

  1. FSU

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by Sveet on Nov 13, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't know why it removed the rankings

Here are ranked teams(ranking at the time of the game) that Zook beat

2002:

    Tennessee#4
    Georgia#5

2003:

    LSU #6
    Arkansas#11
    Georgia#4
    FSU#9*** Swindle is the Swamp. This was a win by all accounts. I’m not going to fault Zook for bad officiating

2004:

    FSU – #10

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by Sveet on Nov 13, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep. The Muschamp defenders will say that Zook was left in far better shape. I get that. But c’mon. This team is still loaded and I know it’s a different sport but Bob Knight always said “just give me 5 guys, I will find a way to win with them.” That is the sign of a good coach, being able to win with what you have. Even if Muschamp “had his guys” I don’t honestly see us in a better position. I am off the support group and no longer think him, nor any coach on this staff, are right for the job. To have Georgia down, and not be able to finish them is sad. Sure Georgia looks good by their record, but they aren’t actually that great. South Carolina isn’t that great. And Georgia kicked the shit out of Auburn, a team we couldn’t find the endzone for shit against.

I honestly don’t see us beating Georgia or Florida within the next 3-4 years. That’s how far off we are. And I don’t even know if UT is going to be a win next year. If I am a recruit I am really thinking twice about coming to UF. Sure, you might get playing time, but your going to be going thru a coaching change soon. There is no way the fans or alumni will sit thru another 6-6 or 7-5 season. I really think Muschamp has to go 8-4 next year to save his ass.

Further look at that. In Zook’s first year he beat the #4 and #5 teams in the nation. I am just going to use Alabama and LSU as examples for this. They absolutely kicked the shit out of us. In his second year he beat 4 ranked opponents. So next year Muschamp would need to beat 6 ranked opponents for him to tackle what Zook did over his first 2 seasons. Seeing as how there won’t even probably be 6 ranked teams on the schedule, that won’t happen.

I will be at a loss for words if anyone can give me a good argument in defense of this Football team and this Coaching staff.

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by Gators1 on Nov 13, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Zook was a great recruiter

Nobody can deny that. His teams were always stacked with talent but they lacked discipline.

And this team is not THAT talented. John Brantley wouldn’t even start on a majority of the SEC and could even be a 3rd string QB on some teams. I’ll admit the defensive class that Meyer pulled in his last season was impressive but the two years before that… not so much.

I a

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by Hook85 on Nov 13, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Zook had the misfortune of being compared to SOS.

So far, Muschamp seems to have the good fortune of not being compared to Meyer, but rather to Zook.

by Dauntless12 on Nov 13, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point

But Muschamp has inherited the worst team out of all the coaches as well IMO.

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by Hook85 on Nov 13, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Very excellent point.

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by FlaGators on Nov 13, 2011 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree, but I also disagree that this team is a 6-6 team talent wise

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by Sveet on Nov 14, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe they won't be...

They can still get to 8-5. I know, thats crazy talk.

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by Hook85 on Nov 14, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

they can also go 6-7

I can’t stomach finishing under .500

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by Sveet on Nov 14, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Crap

Maybe they should just decline the bowl game and be happy at 6-6. Not really, but 6-7 seems much more likely than 8-5.

I still have hope though. Not a lot. but a little.

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by Hook85 on Nov 14, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

This team is literally the worst Gator team in my life time.

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by Hook85 on Nov 13, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

ha!

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by Hook85 on Nov 14, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I honestly don’t see us beating Georgia or Florida within the next 3-4 years

Forgot the STATE. Charlie Weis was calling my offense on that one.

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by Gators1 on Nov 13, 2011 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

Really?

This team is definitely better talent wise than 5-5. We have had top recruiting classes every year so its not the talent its what you do with it! What like 9 straight losses to ranked teams? And a 3-5 record in the SEC? Allowing fourth down conversions 9 out of the last 10 tries? This talent is better than that! Muschamp was supposed to be a defensive coach….I agree that I don’t see this getting better anytime soon…

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