Charlie Weis Leaving Florida To Become Kansas' Head Coach
by Andy Hutchins on Dec 8, 2011 5:22 PM EST
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Florida offensive coordinator Charlie Weis has been hired as Kansas' new head coach, Kansas University announced on Twitter Thursday afternoon. Kansas will hold a press conference on Friday to announce the hiring.
According to a source, Weis' contract with Kansas is likely to reward the four-time Super Bowl champion coach richly, and in excess of the nearly $3 million per year Will Muschamp is making as Florida's head coach.
It is unclear whether Weis will be with Florida for the 2012 Gator Bowl against Ohio State, but his departure leaves Florida in a bit of a bind from a coaching standpoint and on the recruiting trail. Weis was responsible for almost all of the Florida offense that struggled in 2011, and brought Florida offensive line coach Frank Verducci to Gainesville with him. Additionally, Weis was instrumental in the recruitment of freshman Gators quarterback Jacoby Brissett, who had been elevated to second on Florida's depth chart behind senior John Brantley.
As for candidates to replace Weis: Well, we'll see. Florida's demonstrated a commitment to paying top dollar for assistant coaches, and Muschamp is likely to need an offensive mind that can handle that side of the ball while he focuses on defense.
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It’s a hire that comes as a bit of a head scratcher because Weis’s name really didn’t surface until late on Wednesday. It’s also curious from the standpoint that Weis has typically been at fairly high profile positions and Kansas doesn’t really fit that mold at the moment. But when you really step away from the instant reaction to this move, the resume does speak for itself.
It’s like the exact same thing we said when he was hired here.
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Haven’t seen it.
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Familiar. Felt like I'd seen it before.
I'm not going to a country that confuses itself with poultry. Never.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 9, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd
A wise polish man once said: If you don't look out for #1, you get a hand full of #2
Who knows?
All of the hot, well-known offensive minds in college football run some sort of spread offense. There aren’t too many pro-style guys that spring to mind when you think about who the up-and-coming OCs are.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Muschamp goes and gets someone from the NFL again. He’s said before that he considers NFL coaching experience a plus.
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Anything but an NFL guy.
Literally anything. Let an Xbox jockey take over first.
Oh, come on. Don't leave your uncle T-bag hangin'.
I've always liked Mark Whipple
The old Miami OC
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You rang???
I believe I fit the bill there. I come from a long family history of football coaches and I am an offensive guru on the ole XBOX.
by gatorempire127 on Dec 8, 2011 5:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Damn right!
Throw a couple hot routes in here and there. Golden. Anyone who can make Tim Tebow the best quarterback in the league on a madden franchise can be our OC. Show me the money cuz I’ve been there done that and got the tee shirt.
by gatorempire127 on Dec 8, 2011 7:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
hellz yeah
hot route that slot guy to a quick out, and you’re unstoppable.
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Absolutely maybe a nice slot slant on the other side drag the safeties in to the middle. What’s that I smell? One on one on the outside for the deep ball? Oh I think I might take that and have seconds thank you
by gatorempire127 on Dec 8, 2011 7:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You know Alabama and LSU have been able to win with more traditional offenses but I think that is coming to end with 25 recruit limit. Think about it those two schools have been some of the worst offenders when it comes to oversigning and that really helps when you absolutely have to have the best athletes everywhere on the field. Remember that is why the spread causes so many problems and why smaller schools like to run it because you don’t need all those big fast traditional players that are in short supply.
I love this.
It is very humorous. And also probly the much better choice for our ball team. I think we have found a cure for NFL AIDS. Hopefully this means we get a guy who loves Driskel and makes the best choice at the QB position, can recruit well and has a back for finding the best players available on our roster who can help the team. But of course, the chances of finding all that in one coach are slim and the only sure fire way to get a coach like that is if you create one on NCAA 12 and do everything yourself.
by gatorempire127 on Dec 8, 2011 5:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
BWAAAAHHHHHH
You said the chances were “slim” when talking about replacing Weis!!
that is funny.
In all kinds of weather...
I said it’s a slim chance that we could find the perfect coach to replace him.
by gatorempire127 on Dec 8, 2011 5:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I realize – but any use of the word slim and Weis in the same paragraph requires some work. nicely done.
In all kinds of weather...
I always give 110% for the AA!
by gatorempire127 on Dec 8, 2011 6:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Also, Andy … what you wrote is kind of from a different angle than what I was typing. Haha.
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I was in process of writing a mild defense of Weis when this broke...
so…uhh….
Oh, come on. Don't leave your uncle T-bag hangin'.
I guess I'll turn it into a mild positive retrospective on Weis instead.
Oh, come on. Don't leave your uncle T-bag hangin'.
Haha, there you go.
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Negative.
He can’t coach in the 2nd half of games.
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I was joking, mainly.
Year2 is right. If we really want to stick with the prostyle, we’re kind of screwed.
Oh, come on. Don't leave your uncle T-bag hangin'.
Muschamp (with Foley’s help) … will figure it out.
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I don't know, man.
Look down the list of the top offenses in CFB. Spread, spread, spread, spread.
Virtually no pro style teams anywhere near the top rankings. That leaves a less-than-great coach, or an NFL guy. PLEASE NO NFL. PLEASE.
Oh, come on. Don't leave your uncle T-bag hangin'.
I don't mind a spread. Just not an Urban Meyer type spread.
There are plenty of variations of the spread. Two teams can be running the spread and look completely different.
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What Sveet said.
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Florida and Auburn are the only true "spread" teams in the SEC
LSU runs the option sometimes. Georgia goes singleback, 4 wide a lot, but only Florida and Auburn ever committed to the spread as the offensive set. Now, a lot of the offenses in the SEC aren’t very good, but there’s still a lot of “pro-style” hanging around.
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by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Dec 8, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
Dan Mullen and Mississippi State on line one.
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by car.full.of.midgets on Dec 9, 2011 8:10 AM EST up reply actions
apparently neither could weis.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
The last time Kansas hired a morbidly obese coached it worked out pretty well.
Just like all Gators QBs should be preacher’s sons all Kansas head coaches should weigh 5 bills.
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by Sveet on Dec 8, 2011 5:36 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
’Rec.
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Nelson Agholor's reaction:
“Really don’t know what to say right now”
DAMMIT.
Oh, come on. Don't leave your uncle T-bag hangin'.
Well, boooooooooo.
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not to mention
aren’t our 2 big OL recruits toast now too?!?!
We are going to fall from that #4 recruiting ranking almost as fast as we fell from the BCSCG to the Gator Bowl!
In all kinds of weather...
Weis was a puzzling choice from the start.
The experiment failed. We will probably never know if Weis was going to be retained by Muschamp and then got a surprise call from KU this week. Or, if Muschamp told Weis at the end of the regular season that he’d better start looking around.
Either way, Florida won’t be saddled with the mistake for a second season. It will be interesting to see if there are any “lessons learned” that could lead to the hiring of a much better replacement.
This is a great drama hire for KC
After Weis’ stint with the Chiefs last year, the local media spent weeks trying to figure out whether there was tension between Weis and Haley. Now that Weis is back and Haley’s on the verge of being fired, the sports radio guys are happier than I’ve seen them in years.
GO GO FIGHTING METH AGGIES!
If buzz is/was the object...
…hard to say this isn’t a homer for Kansas.
by Andy Hutchins on Dec 8, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
What’s with Florida football coaches and hating their families? I thought he took the job to begin with to spend time with his son and to get a ranch with horses for the wife and daughter? Oh well atleast the Urb’s likes his fam…..errrrrr.
MATT freakin ELAM!
by Gators1 on Dec 8, 2011 5:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
I was thinking the same thing
He said he wanted to be with his family so he took a low key OC job. So whats the deal? Was he pushed out or what??
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Lots of land for horse farms near Larry-ville.
Maybe we/they can trade. Turner’s daughter works for the AD.
mike shula is available.
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Ooooooh.
Can he lose Tebow to us again?
by Andy Hutchins on Dec 8, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
I hate to be the debbie downer...
But regardless of what everyone thinks of Weis this is likely a disaster that sets the program back AT LEAST another year, maybe two. Urban already extended the decay and prevented the start of the rebuild by coming back for the last season. Now we have already lost this year, and may have to sacrifice next season as well with a new offensive coordinator, maybe whole staff, and maybe even whole new offensive system. This is also catastrophic to recruiting right at this time. As an alum and die hard Gator, I hate to say this but the program is completely unraveling right now. It will take 2-3 years to repair the damage the last 2 seasons have caused.
by Cali Gators on Dec 8, 2011 5:56 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
unfortunately I think you are spot on
We may not even have enough players to field a team if all the offensive guys who were promised we were going to run the pro style now start bailing too. Would you want to play for the Gators right now if you were Johnny B. Good?
In all kinds of weather...
Muschamp has already said they will continue to run a pro-style offense
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Right
He also told Mike Davis that he was only recruiting 2 RBs……..
In all kinds of weather...
by skigator93 on Dec 8, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That is one of the first things he said when he was hired.
That seems to be his thing. Considering he from the Saban tree, it makes sense.
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You may be right, but if you believe Weis wasn't the answer better that he is gone now so we can start rebuilding immediately
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That's only true
if the next hire IS the answer.
The only thing worse than one guy who isn’t the answer is two guys who aren’t the answer, and all the recruiting and scheme troubles that go with it.
Oh, come on. Don't leave your uncle T-bag hangin'.
I am afraid to say it, but.....
This might be the largest collapse of any program in the history of NCAA football that doesn’t invovle some sort of violation/probation.
Thanks Urb, appreciate ya’
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by skigator93 on Dec 8, 2011 6:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Overreact much?
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by Sveet on Dec 8, 2011 6:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
FSU’s was worse. Maybe Tennessee’s. Tenn didn’t even make a bowl game a couple of times.
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Look at Miami before the violations hit
Tons of programs go through ups and downs.
Hell look at Texas and they haven’t even had a HCing change
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Well said.
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so what you are saying is that we are done for at max ten years.
i am so pissed right now. i knew that fat SOB ego couldnt handle muschamp telling him he wasnt doing shit for a job. everyone was right in saying he was doing this to land a HC job. what a scum bag. i wonder if wewis is in urban meyers family tree somewhere.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
he may have eaten a few memebers of Urbans family tree....
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by Aaron Tampa Nole on Dec 9, 2011 1:35 AM EST up reply actions
neither was 2 years removed from a national title, and two 13 win seasons.
This isn’t an “up and down.” this is a down, down, down.
In all kinds of weather...
That's what happens when you lose arguably the greatest cfb player of all time
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that is a valid point
but we could have probably done pretty well with Cam….
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by skigator93 on Dec 8, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it would have been a threepeat.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
technically.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
Damn you for bringing that up
Ive been banned at other sites for far less comments. lol
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The only thing about ours that sucked
is that we kind of turned our cheeks while Bobby ruined FSU football. After all, he deserved to stay as looooonnngg as he wanted. *pukeface
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no offense, but your school owes bobby whatever he wants.
the fact he was done like that just shows how college football has changed into an ungrateful fiasco. you guys may be getting better recruits, but you guys had the same record without as you did with.
we did the same with spurrier being asked to show his resume. even i can say that im guilty of it with meyer (tho i find that issue different because…well…you know). still the rising expectations of coaches nowadays is at a sickening level…but then you have ungrateful ones too, like weis here. who should spontaneously combust because of his red hot ego, and the fact hes sporting about 4 gallons of fossil fuel in them jowls.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
No coach ever earns the right to "go out under his own terms."
Programs are bigger than the coaches, even when the coaches build them. FSU was MUCH too patient with Coach Bowden.
What about his point
of FSU not being any better (record wise) than before.
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You just keep firing people
until you get someone who can do the job. Nobody ever earns the right to run something into the ground. Alabama, Texas and USC are all examples of programs that roamed the wilderness for a while looking for the right coach. You don’t hold on to an underperforming coach out of fear that the next coach will underperform as well. That is a loser’s mentality.
by osceolafan2.0 on Dec 9, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
i think youre mistaking fear...
with respect.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
He has no point. The FSU performance is better than under Bowden.
FSU is 18-8 after two years under Fisher. The last time FSU was close to that two year record under Bowden was 2003-2004 when the Seminoles were a combined 19-7. The last time FSU was 4-0 against rivals Miami and UF (in consecutive years) was 1998-1999. That statistic is important, because for FSU to have any chance at recovery the program must overtake, or at least be competitive, with its major rivals.
The FSU program Fisher took over in 2010 was in woeful shape following a decade of neglect. Every area of the program needed (or still needs) attention. Facilities, strength and conditioning, nutrition, recruiting, fundraising, attendance, name it. Going forward under Bowden would have resulted in further deterioration. Restoration hasn’t been as rapid as many (including me) would like. But at least having a new coach at the helm provides the potential for improvement.
Finally, do you really think Bowden would have fared any better at UF? I think he would have been exposed as no longer competent MUCH faster in the SEC and the decision to move him into retirement wouldn’t have required ten years.
The FSU program Fisher took over in 2010 was in woeful shape following a decade of neglect.
How in the bloody hell did y’all put up with that for the better part of decade anyway?
It’s been two years here of this crap, and I can’t even take it anymore!
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Believe me, it wasn't easy.
FSU got criticized for not giving Coach Bowden the “one more year” he was asking for. Heck, the gave him about five years (2005-2009) he shouldn’t have had. The results still aren’t where they need to be, but at least there is a possibility of improvement. I hope the current group can get the job done, but if they can’t I don’t think they’ll have anywhere near as long a leash as the old regime.
Yeah, it was the right call in letting him go. I mean, it looked kind of bad (and personally, I was all for him staying as long as he wanted to) … but sometimes, you just gotta do, what ya gotta do.
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Not so fast my friend.
Tennessee had one national championship, but otherwise all their glory years were played in the gators shadow. So there wasn’t much of a pinnacle to fall from in Knoxville.
FSU played for the national championship four times in five years and three times in a row (I think, running off of memory here). The Seminoles were in a national championship game as late as 2000. Three years later they were still a 10-3 team and in a BCS bowl. Two years later they backed into a conference title and BCS game that they lost in 3OTs. There were no losing seasons and no years where the team missed a bowl. (Though three 7-6 seasons and some lesser tier bowls did litter the FSU landscape in Bowden’s final years.) I think the FSU slide was shocking but not rapid, like a patient who bleeds to death. (And they were dead, make no mistake about that.)
By comparison, UF was at the pinnacle, and only two short seasons later the program is in disarray. A losing season is a possibility. Considering the former lofty height of the program, the suddenness of the plunge, and the depth, it’s hard to say any elite team has ever regressed faster.
That being said, UF has great facilities, good fan support, and is located in a veritable recruiting hotbed. I can’t see the gators staying near the bottom for very long. If the current leadership can’t produce a winner, and that’s anything but a foregone conclusion, a newer and better bunch will be brought in pretty quickly.
The SEC East is ripe for the taking. UGA and USCe are far from powerhouses, Vandy is improved but probably won’t get much better, UT and Kentucky are embarrassingly bad and showing no signs of improvement. All that could lead to a fairly rapid ascent for the gators.
Texas played in the national championship game in 2009.
Texas didn’t make a bowl in 2010. (We then hired Texas’ DC.)
by Andy Hutchins on Dec 8, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
Who Texas gladly let walk. :-(
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True
But then Texas is already back to being better than Florida right now. We’ve had 2 years of limbo. Next year was supposed to be the big step forward, with 2013 being back in contention. Now it looks like we have another year of limbo ahead.
Nah, we’ll be alright.
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Not if we change the system again. if they get a good coordinator to keep the pro-style offense intact, then maybe. And they need to do it fast before we start losing out on recruits. Let’s not forget the other losses to OSU in Marotti and the other guy that was the recruiting coordinator. This could set us back severly in the recruiting department if it doesn’t go right.
in this case COULD is a huge word...
i would speak in more absolute terms. i dont see us recovering from this in time.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
I only disagree with the limbo
I think we take another step back. Possibly a big one.
At we’ll still be able to enjot the tailgates!
In all kinds of weather...
Florida will always be able to go 6-6 on raw talent alone. But the right pieces have to be in place to contend for SEC championships.
already dropped from #4 to #9 in the rivals rankings
after Mike pulled out.
In all kinds of weather...
I wonder how bad it will get.
When Urban finally left last season, we didnt do too bad.
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It's really too hard to predict right now.
It could certainly cost us the WRs we are so coveting right now, but don’t forget that these players also formed relationships with Brian White, Aubrey Hill etc. Verducci is gone too, but is there anyone who’s going to complain about different coaching for what was our most terrible unit this year? I suppose it could cost Avery Young, but again….too soon to tell. It shouldn’t have any affect on the defensive recruits at all.
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I think it helped last year
With Muschamp because of two reasons:
One, they hire him so fast that there wasnt much time for other schools to swoop in.
Two, Muschamp was already a power house recruiter, so most of the recruits didnt mind the transition.
So this leaves me to think…We NEED AN OC FAST, and Muschamp needs to pick up the slack or like most people are saying, hire a new OC that can do like Muschamp last year and pick up right where the last guy left off. Maybe even get Davis back.
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WE ARE SOOOOO FUCKED.
what a piece of fat shit.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
Please
Go back to the Spread! Recruits love it.
by evandagator on Dec 8, 2011 6:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Not really
Many recruits – especially RB’s, O-Linemen, big WRs, and non-mobile QBs – prefer the pro-style.
by CanWeBeMature on Dec 8, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
do you really want to try and recruit against meyer for spread guys???
besides, the spread no longer works in the SEC…the secrets out.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
I don't know about that
Now that oversigning is a thing of the past I don’t think LSU and Bama are going to be as deep as they have been and you need depth to play that grind it out pro style (I know LSU isn’t exactly a pro style offense but it is far more traditional than Urban’s spread or whatever it was Auburn was running last year).
So you need a OC? Good becasue I need a job, attached is my resume:
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by RjTheMetalhead on Dec 8, 2011 6:08 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
Is that a Gator or a toad with a tail?
Listen to them, the children of the night. What sweet music they make.
I dunno.
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by RjTheMetalhead on Dec 8, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
Isn’t that in 3D now?
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by car.full.of.midgets on Dec 9, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
Sure?
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by RjTheMetalhead on Dec 9, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, and ’rec.
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by RjTheMetalhead on Dec 8, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bottom line is this, Weis was the OC. Not the head coach. OC’s are much more replaceable than a head coach. We’ll be fine.
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by FlaGators on Dec 8, 2011 6:09 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Except that offense recruits (like OLs) didn’t commit to UF to play for Champ – they committed to play for Weis.
In all kinds of weather...
We just have to get someone that they (and future ones) like.
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Who might that be?
Could be a good article…
No clue. I haven’t looked yet. I was planning to look tonight.
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We better get someone fast...
Im scared.
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can i have a slice of that denial pie?
i need something to wash down this colonipin with.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
OCs who aren't getting the job done are even more replaceable!
I think some of you guys are failing to see the silver lining in all of this.
i see it. weis was the only one i was unhappy with as far as performances this past season
besides mariotti, who did great as far as endurance went, but failed miserably at buling our players up. im just worried that this is going to destroy our recruiting efforts considering the time its happening, and the fact that its borderline sabotage to muschamps attempts at doing right his first go-around.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
Going back to the spread will kill what little momentum Muschamp has gotten started.
And essentially doom him to a 3 year stint if that hasn’t already happened. As Muschamp says, the only way through this is to stay the course. This just sets us back another year.
Thanks Urbz. You're a doll.
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by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 8, 2011 6:14 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
This is an extremely underrated comment.
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Well
This is a “BIG” loss for the Gators. Hopefully the Kansas football cooks bring in extra food for next season.
nope, there is..
fatty just cant stand being told his fat ass cant sit in the AC during the summers.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
Zing!
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Who hires a head coach to watche the game from a cooler?
Or will the Cooler remain on Muschamp’s staff?
Look, I'll be honest:
The first cooler joke was funny. The rest, just piling on about Weis being fat? I’m guessing Weis has better self-deprecating ones.
There aren’t a lot of people who’ve had gastric bypass go wrong THEN have hip/knee pain from another freak accident. Weis is fat. I get it. Everyone does. But all that makes him is fat.
by Andy Hutchins on Dec 8, 2011 6:24 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
to me, that means alot of other things too.
he wouldnt have problems with those other things if he wasnt fat. ie his knee, hip, etc. he was hit on the sideline, and tore some ligaments, i get it. but the fact that he doesnt have enough self control to fix those issues means mentally hes weak, and has very little self control, and obviously has become accustomed to doing the minimum.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
lol...
exactly. especially under such emotional duress.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
Did someone say … emotional?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gwx3vEUtlE
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lol...thats the second piece of gold youve shown me tonight...
we’re friends.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
Haha, yay!
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I'm with you
No matter how many fat jokes we make, Weiss isnt gonna come back. Let him go…let em go.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
I dont care that he is gone one bit
Just hate that this hurts our recruiting.
by evandagator on Dec 8, 2011 6:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions
after this colossal trainwreck that is the university of florida aka humpty dumpty
gets put back together, if done successfully, muschamp will be the end all, be all of coaches. poor bastard. i bet he never knew it was going to be THIS bad.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
See, there we go. I’d be alright with that. There are a bunch of former players who are coaching offenses at places.
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Danny Wuerffel for OC.
I. Would. Nut. Myself. A. Bunch.
MATT freakin ELAM!
by Gators1 on Dec 8, 2011 6:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
hes having serious issues with his health unfortunately.
shout out to danny! hope you get better!
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
by Jon Heist on Dec 8, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Auto-’rec.
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Yes, Danny W. and Emmitt! They're obviously soooo ready for coaching gigs!
/sarcasm
What is it with people and the “hey you were good, be our coach pls?” thing…
i dont know...
why are you asking me?
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
UH CUZ IT WORKS OR *WORKED*
See Steve Spurrier.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
Seriously
Look up how his offense does at JU. Lighting people the fudge up. Also, Charlie- eat a dick you fat sack of crap.
Kerwin Bell. And he’s said tonight, that he wants the job.
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Didnt he coach Brantley in high school
Which made Brantley the best QB ever in the state of FL.
Dolla late and a min short?
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You're Lucky
That once your coaches hit their experation date, they simply recuse themselves. We extend their contracts and promote their children.
you guys are different.
bobby may have become less potent after the years, but what happened to him was a damn travesty. he should have got his wish of one more year.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
nah, it rounded out a solid 35 years.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
dude. i was raised in tallahassee.
i saw it first hand. but the way you responded shows exactly everything ive said about fsu fans. 34 years. nice.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
by Jon Heist on Dec 8, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Leave too soon, or we just fire them.
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Also … Weis leaving means that I’ll get my wish!!!
DRISKEL WILL GET AN EVEN SHOT AT STARTING QUARTERBACK!!!
YAY!
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I think Brissett is the better pro-style QB. He isn’t in as big of a hurry to leave the pocket, and on the rare occasion he was able to have time and set his feet he showed that he has an absolute cannon. If the Gators stay with the pro-style offense, Brissett will be the guy.
ive seen ZERO difference between the two
except what you just said about pocket presence. then again, driskel has the ability to turn that into something, brisset just sluggishly gets thrown out of bounds.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
Brissett definitely has the stronger arm. That was clearly evident in watching the second half of Alabama vs Brissett’s two games against LSU and Auburn. And in a pro-style offense, you have to be able to get beyond the first option before deciding to run unless you can clearly get the first down. Granted, they were both true freshmen and they both will likely improve in this area. But Driskel was recruited to run the spread and Brissett for the pro offense for a reason. That’s what suits each of their strengths.
Happy feat, is a good thing though. Peyton Manning has it.
Yes, that’s right. I just mentioned Peyton while alluding to Driskel and don’t think it’s bad.
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Manning is closer to Brisset if we are going that route.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
Good for you
I mean us and Driskel of course.
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Am i understanding correctly that he wont even be there to call the plays at the bowl game?
jesus h.
there goes our chance at rubbing osu’s nose in to the meyer hire.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
I doubt that we'd want him there
I mean, would you expect the players to play hard for him?
In all kinds of weather...
thats a good point.
at least for the first half though…you know, when he actually tries.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
Yeah, he’s out for the bowl game. Brian White has the OC duties.
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wow...
You know every one bragged about how great the hiring of charlie weis was when it first happened, but I was never sold on it. What he did in the NFL was awesome, but how do you not produce when you are the HC of NOTRE FREAKIN DAME! I mean how do you not possibly put talent on the field. You get whatever recruits you want (a little exaggeration) but still never had a team worthy of a top 15 to 20 ranking. And dont tell me they had good offenses… Brady Quinn and Clausen were highly overrated and this is evident because they never won a big game. The only reason their stock was so high and their team was ranked so high cause once again its NOTRE FREAKIN DAME. They were beating Navy, well actually they lost to Navy. His ego is bigger than him which is saying a lot. Muchamp is probably licking his chops right now, and good thing for FSU is that Chad Morris already re-signed with Clemson. I wonder what recuits will drop now or not commit because of him? Agholor? Diggs? It will be interesting. Also, I am terribly sorry for all the fast food restaurants in the Gainesville area that just lost half of their sales due to this hiring. You must be proud when you are the #1 customer at more than one fast food restaurant.
by FSU@UNF on Dec 8, 2011 6:51 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
that was too long for a fat joke.
you owe me 30 seconds of my life back.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
by Jon Heist on Dec 8, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
His post...
…may have been the worst post ever.
by GoGators82 on Dec 8, 2011 7:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh I am sorry to offend u...
What exactly was false about my statement? Besides the last part… But that could be true. Don’t be mad at me cause 3 important guys screwed u within a week. Your loss my gain. Not my problem
by FSU@UNF on Dec 8, 2011 7:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not sure your point, buddy...
All you do is come over here to flame on us and try to be coy about it. Take your shit talking back to TN with Bud where Gator bashing is all the rage!
by GoGators82 on Dec 8, 2011 7:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh I didn't know we were the only ones who bashed our rivals
Hmmm…. Ya I have never seen any bashing on this site. Fla gators and I talk all the time, and he does great work, but let’s be honest it wouldnt be a gator site if it didn’t bash Fsu and
Vice versa. More so the people commenting. I am on here all the time not just TN. What I said was the truth with a little bit of sarcasm at the end. I didn’t bash u guys at all. Just said what I thought about an arrogant egotistical overrated coach
by FSU@UNF on Dec 8, 2011 8:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
youre alright in my book bruh.
i think he may be a little emotional right now is all.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
not false...
just a weak punchline. i was hoping for an enlightening moment after reading all that.
i got nuthin :/
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
Lol I wasn't trying to make the whole thing a joke.
Sorry I’ll try to work on it next time ;)
by FSU@UNF on Dec 8, 2011 9:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
In all fairness
After a couple of seasons at Notre Dame the offense looked pretty good. The defense was always the problem. Plus when was the last time Notre was really good? Early 90s. So he hasn’t been the only one who has stunk it up there.
He had plenty of time to recruit
His own guys. But still didn’t produce even offensively. Especially the years after quinn
by FSU@UNF on Dec 8, 2011 7:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
all it was...
was brady to Samardzija all day. i wouldnt say it was great…but it worked a lot.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
Ya that was about it
But they could never win a big game with it.
by FSU@UNF on Dec 8, 2011 9:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well, the Mike Davis thing doesn't seem like such a disaster now!
What a rolling wreck this program is.
Oh, come on. Don't leave your uncle T-bag hangin'.
nothing like a little misdirection to cure the problem.
like using the smoke to hide the fact that the theater is on fire.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
The only thing worse than a sub-par coach
is instability. A poor coach won’t take you to the promised land, but he won’t scorch the Earth either. Instability is how you get situations like Tennessee, which is a smoking crater of a program.
Oh, come on. Don't leave your uncle T-bag hangin'.
Congrats on the coaching loss. Honestly, I was hoping he would stick around for a few more years.
I do wish Muschamp well, though.
Listen to them, the children of the night. What sweet music they make.
by Gatorbuc15 on Dec 8, 2011 8:09 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Maybe just me
But I’m not gonna shed too many tears over a guy who had to stand on a mirror to see his ding-ding. Plus the cane. Just not a very inspiring image on the sideline. Plus didn’t K state have Mangino a few years ago? Who’s heavier?
by htrcooler on Dec 8, 2011 9:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
*Photo*
Weis, Mangino, or Obie?
(Yes, I used the subject line in a post, and no, hell has not frozen over)
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by FlaGators on Dec 8, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd.
Considered, for a brief moment, logging in from the dummy account I have to test comment things to give it a second rec.
by Andy Hutchins on Dec 9, 2011 2:23 AM EST up reply actions
/proud!
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So, I'm thrilled that he's gone
but displeased about the potential to lose offensive recruits over this. Let’s be clear about something, and I’m as guilty as anyone in wanting to believe, but Charlie Weis is not an offensive genius or even close to it. We just witnessed the worst Gator offense in over 3 decades, so anyone that is bemoaning the loss of coaching talent needs to cheer up. I liked that he was a big name, and I was optimistic that he could somehow work some magic…he didn’t. Yes, we all know about a couple of successful seasons at Notre Dame and then of course there were the not so successful ones, like finishing 63rd in the country in total offense. Do you know where we finished this season in:
yds/game? 102nd in the country.
How about pts/game? 72nd.
Passing yards/game? 82nd.
Rushing yards/game? 75th
Be glad that he is gone, and be irritated for the right reasons, which is that this could negatively affect offensive recruiting, and set us back another year on getting the right personnel in here to turn this thing around. Then again, perhaps the recruiting fallout won’t be too terrible. Either way, I’m happy that I don’t have to watch Charlie’s “genius” at work any longer in Gainesville.
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by Cardsfan25 on Dec 8, 2011 10:13 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Well said. ’rec.
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good thing were not hearing about any OL decommits, and Schyler Miles is still on
i just hope that we get a quick rehire to sway diggs and agholor from choosing elsewhere…its still immediate playing time DAMMIT! WTH are these kids looking for?! no one gets FREE CHAMPIONSHIPS!
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
What happens to Weis Jr. or whatever his name is...does he still keep his gig w/ the UF team?
They ought to make his junior fat-a transfer to Kansas.
Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking. I really don’t care one bit.
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not his fault
he was the one that WANTED to be a gator. i say let him do whatever he was going here for, and learn from muschamp and co.
and to hell with his dad.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
anybody who is pumped about this
Is kinda short sighted dont you think? The guy had one year with a shit qb, no real receivers and a track star midget for a running back. He could have been good with the right people. Now you start over with someone who will be less of an offensive genius probably and will lose a couple of recruits along the way. How are yall happy¿
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by camfsu04e on Dec 8, 2011 11:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
what the hell gave you that idea?
being hopefully optimistic is a helluva difference from happy.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
I'm trying to understand how it's short sided?
I’m assuming that the implication is that Weis would have eventually turned it around, which is possible, but far from a certainty. The thing though is this; one of the primary concerns about Weis was how long he would be here. I would say that this move from him clearly validates that concern, so what is short sided about it? Trying to imagine a possible but entirely uncertain improvement from a guy, who was obviously never going to be here very long anyway? The reality is that he was absolutely horrific is his one year here, excuses or not, and he was clearly never going to be here long enough to turn it around anyway, so how it being pleased about losing a short term terrible coordinator short sided?
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I just wish he would have stayed until NSD
after that i really wouldnt have cared. but now it hurts us. judging by who has already opened recruiting back up, its hurting us pretty badly.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
Agholor, Diggs, and possibly taylor.
not to mention im gonna go ahead and guess davis is gone for good now.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
its short sighted dude... come on man.
D-Hop has tiger blood
by camfsu04e on Dec 9, 2011 7:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
its short sighted dude... come on man.
D-Hop has tiger blood
by camfsu04e on Dec 9, 2011 7:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
are you kidding
Read the thread there are yays and im glads all over the place.
D-Hop has tiger blood
by camfsu04e on Dec 9, 2011 7:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't have my phone for one day and this is the shit I come home to!
My smart phone broke, and then officially broke for good when I chucked it for not working. I was on my way to bed when I read the headline of FB. Heres me: “Whaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuttttt thaaa Faaaauuuu!!”
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
i got drunk.
looooong week of this shit.
I just heard Meyer is changing the name of his system from the Spread to the Cut-n-Run.
Long year of this shit
Thank goodness for bball
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