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Butler beats Florida as the dream dies

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Some nights, you just can't beat the refs, fate or black magic. But it doesn't help when you can't rebound either.

Florida, after blowing an 11-point lead in the second half, lost their Southeast Region Final to Butler, 74-71 in overtime. With 9:51 left in regulation, the Gators led 51-40. Butler then rolled off a 20-9 run to finish the game as Florida's top scores all got collared with four fouls and Butler was finally able to drive the ball to the goal.

In overtime, each team traded possessions, with the final difference being found in the three missed free throws Florida had in the extra frame. UF did not score in the final minute of OT.

The Gators shot 44 percent, as they got cold late after shooting around 50 percent for much of the game. After Vernon Macklin (25 points) got into foul trouble, UF had difficulty scoring. Incredibly, the Gators were 18-22 at the line, but were outrebounded 36-33. Most importantly, Butler outrebounded Florida on the offensive glass, 13-8, as they pulled down boards off long jumpers, while UF could only look over their heads or hope not to be called for a foul. Florida was called for 24 fouls in the game (compared to 20 for Butler) as Butler shot 27 free throws.

Butler's Shelvin Mack led all scores with 27 points. Matt Howard had 14 points and drew 10 fouls (unofficial estimate).

The most disappointing thing Saturday, other than UF being outrebounded by a smaller team, was the play of Chandler Parsons. Like the straight-A student who fails the final exam, Parsons play probably one of the worst games of his career. He was 2-9 shooting for five points and never got to the line. He had seven rebounds, but was more comfortable in the corner on offense than working towards the hoop.

As Len Elmore pointed out during the game, Parsons' shot was flat, hitting the front rim flush and dying into the hands of a Butler player. That Parsons last touch was an awkward attempt at rebounding Erving Walker's last chance at a tie, was only icing on Parson's crap cake. It was a tragic end to such a fantastic career.

Alex Tyus followed up his sublime performance against BYU with 14 points and 10 boards. He was not dominant, but he was also tied up by four fouls against him. Kenny Boynton was the other Gator in double figures with 17 points. Walker had eight points, but was 1-10 shooting. With a chance to win the game at the end of regulation, Walker missed his 3-point attempt.

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Such a fitting photo.

The Once and Future King

by FlaGators on Mar 26, 2011 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I look at this seasons with glass a half full kind point of view.

 We won the SEC, that counts for something in my book. We made it all the way to the elite 8, and the the way we lost was so fitting to the regular season, except this time they couldn’t win it in OT.

And I realized Gator baseball is actually on, right now matter of fact. 1-1 in the 7th vs USC on FSsports.

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by Hook85 on Mar 26, 2011 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree.

If you told me before the season started that we would make the Elite 8 this year, I probably would’ve said, “You’re crazy!” So overall, I think this was a very successful season. Kind of disappointing that we made it this far and had to send the Seniors off like that but Butler’s a great team and they were very battle tested after upsetting Pitt and clobbering Wisconsin. Although we’re losing our starting frontcourt, I’m excited about next year because Patric Young is a very exciting player and I think his defense and rebounding will be an upgrade over that of Macklin’s but his post-game needs some work. Erik Murphy will see more playing time and I like that he hits the 3 at a very high percentage. Parsons will probably be the biggest loss as you don’t find many guys with his size and vast skillset. Which makes me curious as to who will start at the 3 unless Billy D employs a 3-guard lineup with Brad Beal coming in. With all of that said, I’d like to thank Parsons, Macklin, and Tyus for a great season, all they’ve done for Florida, and wish them luck in their future endeavors.

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by GameManager on Mar 27, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

My expectation was the Sweet 16

And now that we are no longer in the Tournament, i’m glad Duke lost to Arizona. I always root against the team that won the NC the year before, cause I want our back-to-back teams to be the last to indeed win 2 in a row. All in all, I too, would like to thank the seniors for the hard work and effort they put into this seasoin. They had a lot of pressure when they came to Gainesville, but they grew into the program, bought into Coach Donovan’s system, and handled themselves at a very high level. As disappointed and saddened as I am for this loss, I am very excited for the future of this program, especially for someone like Young. I am very impressed with him, and look forward to seeing his progression next year. That said, I would also like to congratulate Butler. As painful and weird as that may sound, when you look at what they have accomplished in going to back-to-back Final Fours, you can’t help but be impressed. Brad Stevens is the youngest coach to ever go to 2 Final Fours, and they are the first team ever to get to 2 Final Fours seeded lower than 3rd. The way these games break for them, you would almost think that Hayward shot went in, because the ODU game, the Pitt game, and yesterday usually only happen to teams that win it all, and it seems that Butler is treated as such by the basketball gods. All in all, I can hold my head up high once again as a Gator fan.

by lupojohn3 on Mar 27, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I absolutely agree.

I have a ton of respect for Butler and what Brad Stevens has done for that program. I like young, energetic coaches who relate well to the players and even get in on the victory dances. If Stevens stays there for a long time and wins several championships, he could build a John Wooden-like legacy with the Bulldogs. As long as Kentucky doesn’t win the ‘ship, I’ll be okay with the victor, although I’d prefer it to be one of the underdogs like Butler or VCU.

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by GameManager on Mar 27, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never rooted harder for UNC

than I did today. If they didn’t get that shot blocked at 70-69, Kentucky loses.

by lupojohn3 on Mar 27, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was a great season that could ....

have been even unbelievable based on where they were last year.

yes, parsons shot was flat. but butler made some 3s when they needed them.

i really didn’t see the offensive foul call on parson, who was it someone else, when they were up by 11. was he clearing out with the left? anyway, momentum shifted slightly there.

still based on where they were last year to make it to the elite 8 is pretty amazing.

really look forward to patric young and murphy as starters along with a new guard.
should be fun to watch next year.

by gatorchuck on Mar 26, 2011 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

fitting end is correct

brain cramps did them in again
even the announcers could not resist pointing out the illogical decisions (bonehad was the word they used, and i agree), and the brain cramps went beyond erv this time to include billy
decision making down the stretch was baffling, but predictable as they have done similar things all year
it wasn’t ever a lack of physical effort, but a lack of basketball common sense and game situation awareness that plagued them all year
next year will likely be worse record wise because the physical talent will drop, but hopefully we’ll see more competent coaching and playing
so sad to give this kind of game away

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by sportsman on Mar 26, 2011 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I kinda disagree with previous post...

I think you go with who has been clutch before at the end of games.

Also here is a comment by gator assistant coach in nytimes-
"What we feared ended up beating us," the Florida assistant Larry Shyatt said. "Loose balls and rebounds. No X’s and O’s involved."

I think there were 2 blocked balls by Tyus? in the closing minutes that ended up as easy baskets for Butler. The blocks were great perimeter defense but the deflected balls ended up in Butler hands and layups I think, that was huge for them. Gators with the ball were called for more offensive fouls than I can remember.

Yeah you could say they should have gone inside to Macklin but all year long the guards have been clutch at the end of the game.

by gatorchuck on Mar 26, 2011 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

when i said gone more inside to macklin i meant near the end of the game. obviously he was getting the ball before that since he carried them offensively.

by gatorchuck on Mar 26, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great point about the blocks that ended up as easy Butler buckets

And how many shots did they score that bounced off that rim? 8? 10?

There might be some second guessing involved with a few things (end of game for one), but more than anything else I felt Butler caught some breaks in this game and Florida just wasn’t quite good enough to overcome them.

by DoubleB on Mar 27, 2011 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes they were bad luck, but did not seal our fate

the end of regulation shot was a pathetic choice. we needed one point, why go for 3? boynton should have had the ball and the decision to drive or pull up. mac is too bad at the line to get the ball at that point

should never have been overtime. butler’s missed free throw opened the door, and we refused to walk through

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by sportsman on Mar 27, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, those blocks were unbelievable. Tyus makes an outstanding defensive play to block the shot at the three point line and it falls right to Howard to then puts in an uncontested lay-up. That is unreal.

The Once and Future King

by FlaGators on Mar 27, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

The one that killed me

was when(I think) Howard took a 3, and we blocked it, and they wound up getting a basket inside.

by lupojohn3 on Mar 27, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

i dont think the refs were unfair per se

just decided to call the game completely different in the last 10 minutes and overtime. called a really close game all of a sudden, and it just seemed to turn the game around. not that the gators lost because of that, lord knows dribbling out the clock only to throw up a 30 ft contested 3 pointer at the end of regulation, and then running that same play at the end of OT didnt help at all….

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To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
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by silverstreak3k on Mar 27, 2011 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

bingo!

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by sportsman on Mar 27, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. It is unfair to the players on both teams when you as a ref start calling the game differently.

The Once and Future King

by FlaGators on Mar 27, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I normally don’t attack the officiating, but you would have thought Matt Howard was a delicate little flower on the defensive end. The charging call on Erving Walker was a joke and a flop by Howard that was more appropriate for the Argentina-USA soccer game last night. It seemed like Butler was allowed to play physical, but UF as the bigger team was not.

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by mlmintampa on Mar 27, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That was an alright soccer match last night. Good showing by the USA in my opinion.

But yeah, that charging call was a joke.

The Once and Future King

by FlaGators on Mar 27, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree

seemed as though it was called a lil one sided at the end of regulation, but then it seemed the refs tried to remedy that by calling a few cheap ones on butler in OT…..it was def an oddly officiated game

Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5.

by silverstreak3k on Mar 27, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Charge call on Walker

I disagree that the call was bad – whenever a player is completely out of control and comes barreling into the lane resulting in contact, it is called a charge. That said, Silverstreak is 100% right, the officials changed their calling in the last 10 minutes. It doesn’t matter if you call everything close or let them play, but you cannot let players battle for 30 minutes and then suddenly start calling every touch foul. It affected the game.

At the end of the day, this was Billy-D’s loss. There was simply no need for the Gators to take a single 3 point shot yesterday. We were dominating Butler inside. Why fire long shots that turn into long rebounds and degate your size advantage?

Everytime we ran that ball screen at the top of the key, Howard came out to double team the ball leaving his man WIDE OPEN. Tyus correctly broke to the hoop each time Howard left him, yet, not once did Boynton or Walker throw it back to Tyus for an easy dunk or layup. They were both too busy trying to dribble through the double team a take 3 point shots. It is sickening to watch your team lose to a opponent with less talent simply because it insists on playing away from its strengths and into the strength of its opponents. Quite frankly, the Gators deserved to lose the BYU game as well. Thirty-one 3 point shots? Really? When you have every advantage you could ask for underneath???? Why? Donovan is too good a coach to allow that, yet, that is what happened. Tyus bailed us out against BYU, and we decided again against Butler that we were going to be a three point shooting team no matter what.

The play at the end of regulation was asanine. It reminded me of the Matt Walsh/Peeps Robertson days. I would have liked to see Tyus take that last shot. He had been nothing short of spectacular for 2 straight games. Nearly every shot he took went down – even though many were long fade away jumpers that are typically outside his range. Plus, he is a good free throw shooter – so if we were to get fouled, I love our chances for him to make 1 of 2 in the bonus. Instead we elect to put our fate in the hands of a kid who was shooting 10% from the field on the night. What’s worse, he dribbles the clock down to 3 seconds before even making his move. Terrible. Even if a Gator would have blocked out perfectly and gotten a rebound, there wasn’t even enough time for a put back.

In overtime, one of Butler’s 2 big men fouled out. Our response? More 3s. It was puzzling.
I still think Billy coached his best season to date. I just wished he hadn’t reverted back to 2001 Donovan for our last 2 games.

Great season and I hope that the Gators become a tournament fixture form here on out.

by skigator93 on Mar 27, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

In overtime, one of Butler’s 2 big men fouled out. Our response? More 3s. It was puzzling.

Theme of the entire tournament. IMO.

The Once and Future King

by FlaGators on Mar 27, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

recd

I said the same exact thing in the game thread. It was pathetic.

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by Hook85 on Mar 27, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ther officiating was atrocious

and that disfavored Florida.

Butler caught every bounce, starting with Mack’s banked 3 pointer.

All that said, Florida was up 11 with 10 minutes to go.

You have to find a way to win that one it seems to me. The interior defense simply broke down at the end.

It was a strange last 2 games for Florida. I do not thnk they played very well offensively in either game. They were sporadically good on defense. And yet they should have won both with ease.

IT really is a great coaching achievement by Donovan I think in that I see this team as underacheiving by reaching the Elite 8 (in the same way Ohio State underachieved.)

The team has alot to be proud of for the journey they took this year.

In a one and done situation, anything can happen and does.

Billy D. always says that. And it is true.

I hope it leaves Walker, Boynton, Young, Beal and the others wanting more.

by BTD on Mar 27, 2011 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

All that said, Florida was up 11 with 10 minutes to go.

Exactly. Whether or not you feel the officials are “screwing it up” you can’t allow a team to go on a 20-9 run in the last couple of minutes and expect to the win the game.

The Once and Future King

by FlaGators on Mar 27, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is true

But how many of those 20 points did they get at the line?

by lupojohn3 on Mar 27, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had to go back and look at the play-by-play. During that run they were 4-6 from the free throw line.

The Once and Future King

by FlaGators on Mar 27, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

What if VCU finishes this game??

You all wouldn’t have even had to play Kansas to get to the Championship Game. Oh man … that hurts.

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Mar 27, 2011 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I knew that was gonna happen

that’s always the way it is. If you look at VCU this year, compared to George Mason(even before the game today), the similarities were scary. Consider: both teams were 11 seeds. Both teams are from the CAA. Both knocked off 6, 3, and 1 seeds. Both beat a non-descript or non-traditional opponent in the Sweet 16. Both won BracketBuster games at Wichita State. Both were controversial selections to the Tournament.

by lupojohn3 on Mar 27, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both have two parts to their names.

Tony Skinn, Jamie Skeen … Coincidence? You be the judge.

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Mar 27, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s alright. There will be other games. Not this season obviously, but Gator basketball will be back.

The Once and Future King

by FlaGators on Mar 27, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guards and buzzer beaters.

Throughout tournament history, guards often take the last shot, there are numerous famous buzzer beaters. Remember Tyus Edney of UCLA or Keith Smart. Or Brandon Knight this season.

So there is probably a good reason for that. My guess is that the ball is already in their hands and they shoot higher percentage FTs and they can create a jump shot or penetrate. There are more options to score based on what the defense might do.

If Walker had made that 3, and it was close, then we would be continuing the big shot erv conversation.

Anyway, I think Donovan is an awesome coach.
Just look how his former assistants are doing as head coaches. Pretty well.
Florida is very fortunate to have him.

by gatorchuck on Mar 27, 2011 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

last shot does not mean

30’ shot with no time for a reeb

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by sportsman on Mar 27, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember our buzzer beater to defeat Butler?

Compare Mike Miller’s shot to Erv Walker’s.

I rest my case.

by skigator93 on Mar 28, 2011 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't disagree with that but...

i think it still makes sense to put it in the hands of the guards or a player that can create off the dribble.
so yes, perhaps boynton in OT should have penetrated rather than shot
and donovan mentioned that. walker in regulation had a pretty good look and i dont think it was from 30’
but my point is i can see why it’s in the hands of the guards and not a pass
in the low post.

that said, i agree that during the beginning of butler’s run they could have gone inside a few more times. but again, butler got more chances with offensive rebounds, loose balls, etc.

by gatorchuck on Mar 28, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

can someone write a new story please

im sick of getting a big smack in the face everytime i sign on to the army. just seein that title puts a bad taste in my mouth… i think its the same thing jimmer choked on.

by gatorempire127 on Mar 28, 2011 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, it was a tough weekend for the baseball team as well. Though the swimming team did okay with 2 NCAA Titles but a 5th place finish overall.

The Once and Future King

by FlaGators on Mar 28, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention softball

who got swept at home by UGA. There’s an asterisk there because of our pitching situation (#1 pitcher was hurt and #2 was serving a 2 game suspension for intentionally throwing at a player (which is pretty awesome if you ask me)). But still, getting swept by UGA in anything is unacceptable. Even in a one game series.

This weekend sucked.

And no, I didn’t want Macklin to bring the ball up the floor for the last shot, but I sure as hell would have liked to see him shoot it instead of Walker. I’m a proponent of feeding the hot man, and Walker was so cold, he could have fallen out of a boat and missed the ocean on Saturday.

by skigator93 on Mar 28, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that is pretty damn awesome. Agree with everything you said.

The Once and Future King

by FlaGators on Mar 28, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

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