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Despite the news last week that the depth chart at WR got a little smaller, I'm here to tell you why everything is fine and dandy at the wide receiver (and to a lesser extent - tight end) position.

Allow me to introduce to you, wide receivers Stephen Alli, Andre Debose, Robert Clark, Quinton Dunbar, Frankie Hammond Jr, Omarius Hines, Solomon Patton, and Deonte Thompson.

Allow me to introduce to you, tight ends A.C. Leonard, Michael McFarland and Jordan Reed.

Allow me to remind you that running back/wide receiver Chris Rainey is back and he is healthy.

Allow me to remind you that offensive coordinator Steve Addazio is gone and that Charles Joesph Weis has taken his place.

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To have a successful pro-style offense, the conversation begins and ends at quarterback. For the purpose of this discussion, I'm only going to talk about John Brantley. I don't think that anybody here is happy with how Brantley played last year. Enter Charles Joesph Weis. Weis is a genius when it comes to quarterback turnaround. Everyone knows what he did with Tom Brady and Matt Cassel in the NFL. The years they had under even one year of Charlie Weis and his offense are unbelievable. That's the NFL, you say? Maybe. But I'm willing to bet that you can identify to within three seconds when Charlie Weis showed up to help Brady Quinn at Notre Dame. If Brady Quinn is that much smarter and that much a better a quarterback than John Brantley is (say 20 touchdowns), I'll gladly eat some crow. But right now, I'm having a hard time believing that Brantley won't throw for more than 150 yards per game as some have predicted.

One of the major concerns with the wide receivers this year is a lack of size. People seem to think that this group doesn't have that big, tall possession receiver whose primary goal is to move the chains. Well that role is probably going to fall to 6-foot-5 Stephen Alli. Alli had an extremely quiet year last year in catching three passes for a grand total of 17 yards. But that isn't the point. With a new offensive game-plan in place and if he can prove that his hands aren't a question mark, he will be just fine as the possession receiver. Think of a slightly faster Carl Moore

Up next is receiver Omarius Hines. Hines' abilities and what we think of him here at Alligator Army are well documented. The 6-foot-2 receiver checked in last year with 20 receptions for 281 yards and 1 touchdown. That is good for a 14.1 yard per catch average, which, as we all know, is better than a first down per catch. Just imagine Hines and Alli lining up on the outside in the red zone. How many defenses are going to be able to shut these guys down?

Frankie Hammond Jr (6-foot-1) and Deonte "Stone Hands" Thompson (6 foot) each possess the best "open field" ability among the group. Especially Hammond as documented here. Thompson, when he could complete the catch, hauled in a very respectable 38 receptions for 570 yards and 1 touchdown. His 15 yards per catch average lead the team. Frankie Hammond Jr on the other hand had 22 receptions for 276 yards and 2 touchdowns. Which again (like all the receivers thus far) comes out to a better than a first down average per catch of 12.5 yards. Just think about that for a second. The two best "open field" wide receivers last year averaged better than a first down per catch. Just think of what they can and will do in an offense that actually makes sense.

Quinton Dunbar, who stands at 6-foot-1, and Andre Debose, who checks in at 5-foot-11, are the game changers. Dunbar didn't see the field last year, which was a mistake, and Debose played mostly special teams, which was also a mistake. As everyone knows you must get (and keep) your playmakers on the field. Even though one of the knocks on Debose was an inability to "understand" Addazio's offense (I don't really buy that as a legitimate excuse from the Meyer camp), Debose will be fine in Charlie Weis' offense, especially since he decided this spring that he was really going to take things seriously. Dunbar, on the other hand, was one of the bright spots of the Orange and Blue Debut game and I think that trend will continue.

Robert Clark who is 5-foot-9 is exactly the type of slot receiver that is needed in a Weis offense. I fully expect him to do a lot better than his seven-catch, 29-yard, one touchdown season he had last year. Weis gets the most out of the slot position wide receiver and if Clark is that guy (I think he will be) than he'll be just fine. Solomon Patton, also listed at 5-foot-9 is another guy that could potentially grab that slot receiver position. But I just think that based off of last season and this spring, Robert Clark has vastly out-preformed Patton in every facet.

Still not convinced? That's okay. It happens to the best of us from time to time.

Freshman tight ends A.C. Leonard (true freshman) and Michael McFarland (redshirt-freshman), who stand at 6-foot-4 and 6-foot-6 respectively, are two of the most highly regarded tight ends in their particular recruiting classes. Throw 6-foot-3 Jordan Reed into the discussion and this is one dynamic group. Don't forget that for two years (1993 and 1994), Charlie Weis coached tight ends for the New England Patriots. He knows how to use them. While I don't expect to see all three of them each have the production of Aaron Hernandez as individuals, but if they can get close to that production combined, I'll take it. Due to the fact that the offense will involve a lot of play-action passing, I see the tight ends becoming very valuable.

Don't forget that Chris Rainey is back and healthy again as well. We all know what he can do.

Last year, the Gators' offense finished 53rd in the country using the F/+ model by footballoutsiders.com. Charlie Weis, in his last year at Notre Dame in 2009 when they finished with a 6-6 record, ended the year with an offense ranked 12th.  If you think the addition of Weis as offensive coordinator and the departure of Addazio in that same role isn't worth a bump of nearly 20 (yes, I said 20) spots, than you're crazy. Heck, even Spencer Hall over at EDSBS explained the benefits of Charlie Weis' offense.

But I can even do one better than Spencer Hall. The head chief of Tomahawk Nation, Bud Elliott admitted that the Gators have a "pretty good crop of receivers." If a fan of a main rival, especially someone who knows what they are talking about admits it, one would have to seriously think that the Gators just might have something.

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I should have said “very physically talented, but unproven.” I think there have to be serious concerns about Aubrey Hill. His receivers did not develop at all in Miami, with the exception of Leonard Hankerson, who has been vocal about crediting going outside the program for private receiver coaching for his development. I voiced skepticism of the Hill hire, here, noting that Muschamp may have swung a little too much to the “recruiting” side of the coaching pendulum with his hires.

It’s not like UF’s receivers already had solid fundamentals playing in Urban’s offense. The question now is whether they will get them from Hill.

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on Apr 18, 2011 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

They are unproven. But not unproven as in they don’t have a clue as to what is going on, on a football field.

I’m not that much of a fan of Aubrey Hill either. I remember reading that article you wrote, and I’m pretty sure the comment section is littered with my responses (though probably off topic as usual over there).

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by FlaGators on Apr 18, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, he had to have gone against someone in the Big XII, a passing league, who produced receivers with excellent fundamentals. That makes the Hill choice more confusing.

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on Apr 18, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but Aubrey Hill is a former Gator WR, knows the area…Miami especially recruiting wise. I think it was more of something like that.

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by FlaGators on Apr 18, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

And if you can win Dade and those coutnies down there, we can pull in some top notch talent, which will help keep Will off the off seat in the offseason if the regular didn’t go too swell.

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by ECFIVESTER on Apr 18, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

The State of Dade. Yep.

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by FlaGators on Apr 18, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trey?

No love for Trey???? :(

I’m glad you mentioned my boy Frankie….Freaking….Hammond. Hes going to have a breakout season!!!!

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by Gators1 on Apr 18, 2011 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, Trey Burton is “listed” as like a WR/TE/FB/RB…so I really have no clue what he will play more. Especially since he was hurt and missed out on the Orange and Blue game.

I expect a big year out of Frankie Hammond as well.

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by FlaGators on Apr 18, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

All I know is hopefully the Andre Debose show can begin now that Urb is gone. He has Percy Harvin talent written all over him.

I agree 100% with your article as well. We have more weapons at WR then people think. It is still 1 of the best in the SEC (IMO)

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by Gators1 on Apr 18, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

As long as he puts in the work (understanding the playbook, working at practice) he’ll be fine. So far, so good.

Exactly. There isn’t a team in the SEC that can match the talent level at WR. People just brush them off because of the season last year….when nothing aside from the secondary went right.

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by FlaGators on Apr 18, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is hard to place Mr. Utility Burton, I see him more as an H-Back in Weis’s offense. Which means he’ll get the pass on the flat, and maybe a few dives, heck maybe a reverse, and some trickery, but not as a regular downfield receiver. I think Rainey with his speed is more a regular downfield option in this case.

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by ECFIVESTER on Apr 18, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Keep up the good articles!!

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by Gators1 on Apr 18, 2011 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree but

does anyone really consider Rainey as a WR?

How many deep passes has he caught? I think of him as an RB who can catch.

by ParadigmShift35 on Apr 18, 2011 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Not really. But sometimes a quarterbacks best friend is a running back who can catch the ball.

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by FlaGators on Apr 18, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can think of a 60 yarder

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by ECFIVESTER on Apr 18, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

How sad is that really. Out of all the wide receivers and tight ends on the roster…a running back, who only played 8 games led the team in touchdown receptions.

That’s pathetic.

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by FlaGators on Apr 18, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Fine and dandy"

Every time I hear that I think of the George Carlin.

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by Hook85 on Apr 18, 2011 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree witcha...

At this point, I have mentally removed Thompson from my minds depth chart. As in, I don’t expect him to produce, and I also hope to find a preseason coping mechanism to deal with the inevitable dropped balls. I expect Dunabr, Hammond, Hines, Alli, and DeBose to make up a very formidable WR corp. I though AC looked great in the spring game, and I think Jordan Reed can be a beast at the TE slot. We have the pass catchers, we just need someone to get them the ball. As for the Aubrey Hill comment from Bud above, I can’t say that I disagree, but I’m hoping that the Miami performance was the exception. We know Hill can recruit down south, and that makes him valuable, but whether or not he can actually coach, remains to be seen. For now, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.

by Cardsfan25 on Apr 18, 2011 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I still have faith in Deonte. Probably misplaced, but I’m still hanging on to some hope.

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by FlaGators on Apr 18, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, good one. If he drops mine, I’m going to be really pissed. Because I’m throwing it underhand, 3 feet away.

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by FlaGators on Apr 18, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can’t change what your momma gave ya, and apparently she gave him stone hands

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by ECFIVESTER on Apr 18, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

His hands are harder than Roberto Duran’s.

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by FlaGators on Apr 18, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah maybe, that’s one of the main differences between a WR and a CB (aside from hip movement IMO). The best thing about it all is that Scout.com when he was being recruited, had his info 100% correct. Link

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by FlaGators on Apr 18, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

my favorite part of his Scout bio is his quote

Thompson: “I have great speed and hands and I’m a great at running my routes. Nobody can stop me. I need to focus on being more consistent on every play,” Thompson said. “I need to run every play equally hard and I really working on that right now. I’m focusing a lot on the mental side of the game besides taking extra time in my drills.”

by Cardsfan25 on Apr 18, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good find there. If he’d have taken his own advice and actually admitted that he has a fault or two, he’d be an All-American by now.

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by FlaGators on Apr 18, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha. Yes. Vintage Deonte. Nice.

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by FlaGators on Apr 18, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good ole John Madden once said it best, Those you can catch play receiver, those who can’t play defensive back.

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by ECFIVESTER on Apr 18, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fantastic. We should probably change the names and send it to Temple. I’m sure they’d love to be aware of Addazio’s playbook.

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by FlaGators on Apr 18, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel robbed

Why wasn’t this available last year?!?

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by ECFIVESTER on Apr 18, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

EDSBS is good. I’ve followed them long before they were part of SB Nation. Good stuff.

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by FlaGators on Apr 18, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt.

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by FlaGators on Apr 18, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah it’s good stuff, don’t know how I missed this.

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by ECFIVESTER on Apr 19, 2011 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Should be labeled the sh!t flowsdownhill chart

You can be dumb... that's ok! There are many dumb people.
You can be an a$$hole... that's ok! There are many of these as well.
Unfortunately you cannot be both...
Ok... prove me wrong.

by BeachBronco on Apr 19, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ehh

that was supposed to be a play on flow chart with bold but I will except the failure and try to get better ;o)

You can be dumb... that's ok! There are many dumb people.
You can be an a$$hole... that's ok! There are many of these as well.
Unfortunately you cannot be both...
Ok... prove me wrong.

by BeachBronco on Apr 19, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is funny

and I will rec it even though you didn’t make it.

You can be dumb... that's ok! There are many dumb people.
You can be an a$$hole... that's ok! There are many of these as well.
Unfortunately you cannot be both...
Ok... prove me wrong.

by BeachBronco on Apr 18, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good article....

but you dont need to capitalize anything under four letters in the title. Also alot of allow me’s lol. I know it was intentional but very repetitive.

"Im in psychoville and Finkle's the mayor"

"Your gun is digging into my hip"

My doc told me to act like a robot for the next week. Great prognosis! Me and Johnny-5 will be one...

by GoNuckingFuts on Apr 18, 2011 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Our editor here (Andy) capitalized it. I originally didn’t have it like that. But I don’t care either way.

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by FlaGators on Apr 18, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's the SB Nation style to cap-up everything in the title.

I’ll probably figure out a more consistent way to do things around here that isn’t quite all capped-up, but it’ll take some time.

Read these things I wrote: SB Nation Archive

by Andy Hutchins on Apr 18, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhh. So there we have it.

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by FlaGators on Apr 18, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice...

XXXXL gator polo. Big Charlie cam at least fiil out a shirt. Are they gonna sell those in the gator shop?

by gator'n'mempho on Apr 20, 2011 7:31 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Why do people insist on believing that Charlie Weis had something to do with Matt Cassel’s development ?

MC was drafted by the Pats after Weis left for ND.

Josh McDaniels developed MC. Josh McDaniels is the one who got him the big contract in KC.

MC was already a franchise QB before Weis got his hands on him.

BTW Belichick was Brady’s QB coach his first year playing.

by GatorPhoenix on Apr 22, 2011 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

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