Former Gator Joakim Noah in Trouble for Using Gay Slur
by Hook85 on May 23, 2011 1:11 PM EDT
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PrintJoakim Noah has always been a big fan favorite for not only Gator fans but basketball fans in general. But after Sunday night's game against the Miami Heat, Noah may have lost a few fans. Apparently Noah felt disrespected by a fan's comment and decided to dish out a few insults in retaliation. Noah has always been famous for his intensity and hustle but there is no excuse for this kind of language.
Noah has since apologized but also said he still expects a fine from the NBA. Just recently Kobe Bryant made the same mistake and was fined $100,000 by the NBA. For the Bulls' sake, they better hope it's just a fine without any suspension considering how much the team needs Noah if they want to get past the Heat in the play-offs.
This should be a reminder to all of us, don't use this kind of language whether you are playing basketball with your buddies or commenting here on Alligator Army. Even if you are not intending to offend anyone, it does.
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Apparently, he doesn’t listen to Wanda Sykes….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS0GVOQPs0
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Yeah Noah is such a 16 year old with a bad mustache
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
He does have the bad mustache.
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lol
Its crazy how many people hate on him cuz of it, and the hair of course.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
Ha. Yeah…that hair.
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Walsh’s hair got him a smoking hot GF.
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but she probably broke up with him
once she realized that ball players in Turkey don’t make as much as NBA guys….right?
You are correct sir. Though I’m assuming “had” is meant to imply “not anymore.” But it was Wikipedia, so who the heck knows.
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Bad Language my arse
Noah was just venting steam, using a slang word that the upcoming generation generally doesn’t regard as inflammatory.
Hey GLADD, you’re gay. If anyone is upset by the term (the bundle of sticks/cigarettes one) build a bridge and get over it.
I know when I play’d in high school we said it called each other it, but we didn’t take offense to it. yeah we even said it when we were pissed off at each other and still didn’t take offence. The obscene fine he’s about to receive is undue. If anything he should be fined the same amount as he would be for calling out the referees.
Let’s not cater to a the feelings of a center lifestyle by making them taboo.
I’m not saying he shouldn’t have said it, but he shouldn’t be fined like Kobe was that’s for sure. I just don’t feel like it’s that bad, and to level obscene fines for it, is more or less catering to a certain lifestyle.
Get out of my House!
People used to say the same thing about the "N" word
I wouldn’t be surprised if your comment gets deleted. But I’ll leave it for an example of how not to comment.
Hey GLADD, you’re gay.
This is what we dont want.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
Your wish is my command.
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in regards to the "n" word
it came to my mind as well, but it was invented to be derogatory. A sad point of history. the “f-t” is more or less used the same as someone might use the word “retarded”. Which is incorrectly.
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In response to a couple of your points (and please take this as a counterpoint and not the start of an argument)
I don’t think the basis of whether a word is inflammatory can be based on whether you and your high school friends found it offensive in your use of it. Especially under the assumed idea that none of your high school friends, nor you, are gay (if that’s not the case, then this is a different subject).
People know very well when they use the word “faggot” that they are not metaphorically referring to someone as a bundle of sticks, so please don’t try and pass this off as common British vernacular and not a universally disparaging term. I have gay relatives, and while they have developed some thick skin, they still find situations like this offensive, in that the use of the word is an attempt to degrade someone through a term that defines the target as inferior to the user. People don’t mean “cigarettes,” they mean that the someone is less of a man, a sissy, or any other ill-formed opinion about a gay man.
And as far as the “n” word: no, it was not invented to be derogatory. It was in essence a rough translation of several different derivations within the Romantic languages, that only became fully deprecating towards the beginning of the 1900s.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but I think you are way off in stating that it is one shared with an entire generation; I recommend you watch a few “It Gets Better” videos and see just how harmful that word can be. With that, kudos to the site for broaching what is an obviously sensitive topic, and I’m going to put my high horse away now.
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by Sir Lawrence J on May 23, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
No offense taken
I believe I inserted my foot in my mouth a bit yesterday. I just hate this reverse discrimination hatred that seems to run rampant in society.
But yes, I believe the word is offensive to some, but not all gay men. I don’t believe someone should be made such an example of because he said it though. I think what happened is I was all riled up about how blantly unfair the amount of fine, regardless who it is (because frankly I’ve never been a Kobe fan, I respect his skills, but I’m not a fan of his). I think if Noah had something like “cracker” or more overtly derogatory like “dumb-a**” that would merit a less of any of a fine at all and that shows a bias.
As a young married adult with kids, I’m still between opinions about how I feel about same sex marriage, but that doesn’t mean that I want someone to more highly favored or less favored. I just feel that the NBA in this circumstance has established that the Gay & Lesbian community is more highly favored to them than even the african-american, caucasian, or family community, heck even more than the hispanic community by leveling such obscene fines.
It would be foolish of to not think that these are the first instances of these things happenning. It’s just that’s being made more of big deal.
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What about the fan? I’ve always felt that the fan(s) were at fault as well. Sort of like that guy that walked out on the floor during that Pistons/Pacers brawl a few years ago….Stephen Jackson…I think it was, just absolutely demolished the guy. He tried to sue, but the judge said he was on the court and thus part of the court.
If you’re yelling at a player…or anyone else, you shouldn’t be surprised when he lashes out. If you are, then you are ignorant.
But then again, I like it when guys like Tie Domi handle their business when someone “tries to get at them” (granted Domi squirted him with water first, but they guy obviously started it by talking smack)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcgivAeVlI4
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I know what your saying
I don’t understand why fans are not kicked out when they get that disrespectful.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
Because of that darn first amendment thing
People are allowed to act like jerks, so long as they do not incite a riot.
Yep. They are allowed to act like jerks, and people are allowed to reciprocate to them, like jerks.
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I’m rubber and you’re glue. Whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you.
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What about verbal assualt?
Wouldn’t the owners have the right to kick out anyone if they are verbally assaulting a player. It’s not a public basketball court.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
And from what the other Bulls players said
The guy was getting pretty bad, so the fan wasn’t the typical heckler that all sports are accustomed too.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
if he was causing a disturbance
then yes, the arena personnel could have escorted him off the premises – your ticket contains some waiver language to that end.
Players need to be bigger than that though. They are human too, but they are professional. The great ones respond to that treatment by pouring in 38 points. the not so great ones jump over the plexiglass or leave the bench and get punished.
You know how much his seat must have cost?
Dude probably paid around $1000 for those seats, if not more.
I pay that much money, I’m going to yell anything I want at the athletes that are making millions of dollars for playing a game. Not my fault if they’re thin-skinned and can’t handle it.
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I would say to you that you better be ready just in case they say something back. Even if it is a disproportionate response.
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You've been warned.
“GLADD, you’re gay” is exactly the kind of thing we’re not going to tolerate here: it’s the use of language for purely derogatory and discriminatory reasons.
by Andy Hutchins on May 23, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously?
It’s called a play on words and for someone not to laugh at that means they are just out looking to be offended. Heck my gay friend was the one who told me that.
Andy, I like what you’ve done with the place, I really do, but was that truly necessary? If what I said was that bad … just delete it. I’ll understand.
I don’t want to make this into a big deal, so I’ll leave at this.
Get out of my House!
Again, warned. Not banned.
You’re still allowed to comment here, but I’m not going to tolerate someone saying that people offended by a homophobic slur should “get over it.”
If you want to delete it, that’s fine by me, but the warning still stands.
by Andy Hutchins on May 24, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
People in this country...
are so damn sensitive anymore! Grow a pair and get over it. Oh, sorry if I offended anyone. Fine me and never let me have internet access again.
Exactly. We are an overly sensitive society. Blame everyone but yourself, nothing is your own fault society.
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Don't use the word.
It’s as simple as that. Just because it doesn’t offend you doesn’t mean it doesn’t offend others. And don’t give me all the “people need to get over it” and “don’t be so sensitive.” It’s a word that has a derogatory connotation. Don’t use it. It really won’t change your daily conversations at all to replace it with something less offensive.
Just my 2 cents. As Sir Lawrence J said above, this isn’t to start an argument, it’s just my point in the discussion. If something you do offends people and you don’t need to do it to get through your day because it doesn’t enhance your life in any way whatsoever, then why continue it? The use of words like those mentioned throughout this comments section doesn’t make you any tougher or any more of a man. You can get your point across by saying any number of other things.
On that note, you are all a bunch of nincompoops. Now THAT I would have paid to hear Noah call somebody in the heat of the moment.
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by The Bull Gator on May 23, 2011 5:54 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
You called me a nincompoop!!! Derogatory!!! I’m so offended!!!!
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Then I won't use it again.
See how easy that was?
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by The Bull Gator on May 23, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I see what you are saying, but I’ve just never been one that really took stuff to seriously. All one has to do is look at my last name…and see that I learned at a very young age to let stuff go/not pay attention…etc.
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I completely understand what you're saying.
There are things I choose to worry about and those I don’t. But the point isn’t really how we each feel about the word. The point is how others do. I think that’s the real discussion and why it’s an issue. Just because I don’t particularly care if people curse, doesn’t mean they should in certain situations for instance. It may not bother me, but it’s either inappropriate or offensive for others.
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by The Bull Gator on May 23, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I see that side as well.
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That and I just don't see the point.
If by saying it you mean “you’re a loser,” just say “you’re a loser.” It became one of those things that was “cool” to say around your buddies. Why is beyond me.
Any way, I’m a Noah fan. A big one. I just wish he had used his words carefully or chosen not to respond at all. Of course, I’m sure the fan is far from innocent as well.
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by The Bull Gator on May 23, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I made that point above about the fan.
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Noah was fine 50,000
Says he is ok witht he fine.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
of course
he’s the bigger man
not to mention he doesn’t want to be fined for complaining about the fine. He’s probably happy that he didn’t get fined the extra 50k.
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This is being completely overblown
I don’t know a single person in my generation who uses this word to mean anything other than something along the lines of, “stupid annoying douchebag.”
As far as I’m concerned, the word has no connotations relating it to homosexuality. Maybe others perceive it that way, but that’s their mistake.
People need to stop being hypersensitive. This wasn’t a “homophobic slur.” Joakim doesn’t go around rallying with the Westboro Baptist Church or shooting up gay nightclubs. He’s not a homophobe. He was tossing a general insult at the fan the same way the fan was tossing general insults at him.
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This
was how I initially felt. but apparently I am not allowed to say much about it.
Get out of my House!
The offending word used by Noah
Is part of the daily vernacular of a huge portion of males fron teen to middle age across this country. I am awestruck at the outpouring of caring and sensitivity towards a miniscule segment of society that until two decades ago was an abomination in the eyes of most. Coarse language is offensive to many people but words are tools used by people to express themselves and their words are a product of the environment in which they live. Be damn careful before you drag out the soapbox and preach. With all the evils perpetuated in this world today it seems a tad incongruous to call a man out over a casual word or a comment over a casual word. Make sure your own porch is clean before you start sweeping someone else’s.
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