The Miami NCAA Investigation, Nevin Shapiro, and How They Affect the Florida Gators
Thank your lucky stars that the University of Florida employs one of the finest NCAA compliance staffs money can buy. Those tireless souls are the people who keep you and me sleeping soundly at night, knowing that there's practically no chance the Florida Gators get embroiled in an NCAA investigation like the one Miami is about to endure because of Nevin Shapiro.
The Gators aren't completely out of the woods here, either: Wide receivers coach Aubrey Hill is involved, though Florida is publicly standing behind him, and Andre Debose and Matt Patchan also get name-checked, though whether they were anything more than innocent bystanders remains to be seen. But Miami's going to get nuked by the NCAA if even a fifth of Shapiro's spiel is true and provable; Florida might have to sniff a whiff or two of the mushroom cloud, but no one is mentioning the Gators and "death penalty" in the same sentence.
That said, this is going to affect Florida, too. A rundown of possible ramifications after the jump.
Say goodbye to Hollywood (and Broward, and Dade): Compared to Miami, Florida does little recruiting in South Florida, preferring to dominate Central Florida, scoop up national prospects, and squabble with the SEC and Florida State for the Southeast's finest. But Will Muschamp and Florida will probably need to make certain that a SoFla prospect is untainted to go after him, and given Miami's proficiency at South Florida recruiting and Florida State's perceived recruiting advantage over UF down south, the Gators cognoscenti might make a decision to leave everything south of Lake Okeechobee alone.
Could FSU leave a diminished ACC? If allegations become violations, Miami's destined for some massive welts from the NCAA: Think TV bans and enormous scholarship reductions, and penalties that could dwarf what USC received post-Reggie Bush. That robs the ACC of one of its three flagship football programs — Florida State and Virginia Tech are the other two — and puts the conference in a bind if Miami's penalties last for years. Could that make fleeing the ACC more appealing to Florida State and Virginia Tech? Could VT booking it for the SEC — VT to the SEC would expand the SEC footprint and avoid a violation of the SEC potentates' rumored "gentlemen's agreement" not to absorb schools in the same state as current member schools — leave Florida State with an ACC it would like to escape from? Yes on both counts, I think.
Welcome Miami back to Florida's schedule! C'mon, Jeremy Foley! Playing Miami in 2017 will be just like playing Florida A&M, except with an emptier stadium and a less exciting band!
Miami is screwed: I'm skeptical about the NCAA's ability to make everlasting change out of anything, much less a situation in which it could try to head off a pandemic by shooting the patient and hoping that dissuades anyone else from contracting the disease. And this situation's made worse by Miami's unique status as the college football world's adorable scofflaw, as pointed out by Bomani Jones: The 'Canes aren't big enough to bank on their importance to the franchise of college football as a way to evade the NCAA's scythe, but they're certainly big enough to die and leave a good-looking corpse.
Here comes the sweeping NCAA change we can believe in? Then again, the NCAA could either 1) grow a backbone, add staff, declare this the end of the days of dirty play in college athletics, and become the martinet that some unctuous amateurism fetishists would like it to be or 2) admit defeat, keel over, die as a serious college football governing body, and usher in the changes that will need to be made to shift college football further toward a semi-professional model. Neither of these scenarios is as likely as Donna Shalala and Paul Dee being run out of town on a rail as the players who committed to Randy Shannon, the coach Shalala/Dee ran out of town, struggle under a coach, Al Golden, who apparently didn't know he was getting a program months away from destruction by meteor, but I never rule out anything with the NCAA.
If you tl;dr'd that, here is a GIF: Via RjTheMetalhead at EDSBS.
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I think the game at Miami in 2013 just got…yeah.
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NCAA won't do a TV ban
But I think they’ll get clobbered with the longest post season ban yet and a 40 scholarship dock.
by Jonathan Loesche on Aug 17, 2011 1:35 PM EDT reply actions
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Can see the NCAA allowing all the players who are cleared to transfer without waiting a year.
by Jonathan Loesche on Aug 17, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's going to happen.
But we have no idea when this investigation’s going to conclude, and it’s so ill-timed now that I have zero doubt whatsoever that they will be twisting in the wind this year.
by Andy Hutchins on Aug 17, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
no harm no foul though, yet
Right you are, but they’ll enjoy regular TV and postseason excitement during the investigation.
Post season excitement
Three drive-bys and a gang bang?
It certainly helps that UF is in Gainesville.
Not to belittle it or anything, but you’re bound to have more outside / questionable influences in a place like Miami than most college towns. Same issue that USC has.
If you’re school is in a big city, especially one as glamorous as Miami or LA, you’re going to have a lot of money flying around and a lot of questionable characters involved.
Would anyone question Al Golden if he quit?
by Grinder in Training on Aug 17, 2011 1:45 PM EDT reply actions
Who would question him if he sued?
I wouldn’t.
by Andy Hutchins on Aug 17, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Something like that
More likely, the failure to disclose would be framed as a material issue, going to the heart of the contract’s basis. Golden would argue that, had he known about the allegations (both their existence and depth), he never would have accepted the job. He could go for something like fraud in the inducement, on the grounds that Miami had a duty to disclose that sort of thing to an incoming coach (and AD). For now, he’d do well to not say a word about wanting the job anyway.
A problem would be damages- unclear if he’d be able to recover what he’d have made at Temple, because UM could simply say he’d have taken a job elsewhere, and thus damages would be too speculative. More realistically, he’d look to get his contract voided and he doesn’t owe them squat.
Then again, maybe not.
What could happen in that situation is a settlement to make it go away.
If he were to go that route. Then he jumps ship and washes his hands of it. Unlikely to happen, but from everything we’ve heard today, he doesn’t seem too pleased.
by The Bull Gator on Aug 17, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I can see the headline now:
“Golden showers U with lawsuits. ’Canes pissed.”
by Landlubber on Aug 17, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
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Nick Bloomfield: First in trolling, first in shout outs, first in the hearts of the commentariat.
And I thank you for the rec.
And for those of you who didn’t get it, congrats, you are not perverts.
Ya, I said the same thing.
Things you won’t find in Tally or G-ville:
Yachts
6 Million dollar mansions
Cool clubs that have a VIP section
Strip Clubs (Tally)
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Or Liberty City
Cruise on down there some time.
Who's the bad guy here?
The kids were allegedly accepting gifts and money and sexual favors thrown at them – sure they knew it was wrong, but golly, anyone here think they could have turned that down as a freshman (or ever)?!
This Shapiro guy (allegedly) did all this stuff because of his love for Miami, and now is throwing them under the bus in an attempt to destroy the program? What a punk.
Then we have Da U. Did anyone at UM wonder where this 30 something party boy was getting all the money? Anyone wonder why this 30 something party boy wanted to hang out with college students all the time? Contrast that to UF’s Stumpy Harris. Can anyone imagine Stumpy ever coming forward with these types of stories and allegations? No? Why? because he’s an actual alumnus of the University (twice)? Because he’s a successful lawyer with legitimate and known business practices? Come on Miami – you can’t be all that shocked at all this!
I’ll be interested to see where everything falls with regard to the coaches and what they knew. Hill might be a real short timer at UF….
anyone here think they could have turned that down as a freshman (or ever)?!
Not me. I’d be the crooked cop, the dirty politician…etc. That is why I’m not a police officer, a politician..etc.
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Outsider Question
What do you mean about making sure that a SoFla player is “untainted”? Trying to be even handed here, but it seems like an implication that SoFla players are “less trustworthy” than others.
I mean if a kid is talented, you should go after him right? You’ll find bad apples anywhere.
What’s more it couldn’t hurt to have a stronger SoFla presence right? I hear a sizable amount of the student body hails from there. If Miami is gonna get hammered like people think, then I don’t believe big time kids from Dade and Broward are going to follow them like a thirsty man to an oasis at least for while.

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