A Conundrum: Kerwin Bell, Will Muschamp, And The Future Of Florida's Offense
Let's talk about Kerwin Bell, shall we?
Jacksonville Times-Union columnist Hays Carlton reports that Bell has been offered the Florida quarterbacks coach position, but different sources tell him that Bell is a) wrestling with the decision or b) not going to leave unless it's for an offensive coordinator position. This makes sense from Bell's side..
Bell is the head coach at an FCS school that plays in the Pioneer Football League, one so small that it doesn't have scholarship players. He's a sharp football mind, by all accounts, and has gotten good, exciting offenses out of those players, but he's done what he's done at a level that really isn't that far removed from high school — not coincidentally, his only other level of coaching.
And he's smart, too, and so he's trying to leverage that local success and a profile that cannot possibly be higher at any school other than his alma mater into getting the keys to one of the five best offensive coordinator positions in college football. I don't blame him: If I had an in at a place that would probably pay me at least four times as much as I am currently making, and I thought I could use my results thus far to justify that hiring, I would probably deploy that leverage.
But Will Muschamp's no dummy, either.
Muschamp knows that Bell is a local legend, and knows that Florida fans will forever lionize their local heroes because the guy who won the Gators' first Heisman Trophy is also the guy who got the Gators their first national championship. He knows that his roots in Gainesville matter, because he's seen Florida use growing up in Gainesville to sell him to a fan base that thinks it can get whatever it wants. And Muschamp knows damn well, as Florida's first defensive coach since Ron Zook, that there's a fetishization of offense at Florida that few other schools share.
But I suspect Muschamp probably knows that Jeremy Foley hopes, and is not alone in hoping, that Florida's new, post-Urban Meyer era is a program that can be sustained for more than a few years. And Muschamp knows that the "Our program is a family that can get you to the NFL" pitch that Alabama and LSU and Auburn are using is a potent one, because he's seen it work on the recruiting trail here and at Texas. And he knows that running something like what Charlie Weis ran — optimally, obviously, a far more effective version of it — is appealing to recruits, and additionally is aware that these recruits barely know Bell.
And, to top it all off: Bell knows that Florida filling its offensive coordinator position with someone else who has success means that he immediately goes from being a perennial offensive coordinator candidate at a premier program in the SEC to being the guy some Sun Belt or Conference USA team takes a chance on down the line; Muschamp knows that Bell knows all that, because he knows it, too.
So I'm guessing Muschamp did offer Bell the quarterbacks coach position, and I'm assuming both he and Bell realize that Bell could do a lot worse than serving as tutor to Jeff Driskel and Jacoby Brissett while trying to build a resume, and I think that Bell is evaluating whether a less obvious step up (FCS head coach to Florida offensive coordinator is a big leap, but FCS head coach to a subordinate offensive coach?) is worth the move.
And so we must wait.
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Do it Bel!!
This is what I thought would happen. I said all along, White is OC and Bell is the QB Coach. and like all your points, Bell needs to build his resume before he can just become the OC at premier program like Florida. Not trying to toot our horn or anything but it would be like Major Applewhite becoming the OC last year at Texas …
Coach Boom: Emperor Palpatine, I mean Saban, when I get to Florida who should I get to run my offense?
Emperor Pal ...err Nick Saban: Charlie Weis is better. He goes in first and screws the offense. Mike Shula is better. He leaves the fanbase devoid of hope and life. Oh, really, fool? Really.
[Notices Kerwin Bell walking up.]
Nick Saban: Stop looking at me, Bell.
Yeah I said it in the gamethread that I thought White did enough to keep the OC tag and bringing in Bell as QB Coach was the best move. This would be so amazing. Although, if we could retain White as a RB Coach, Bell as a QB Coach, and bring in someone like Monken or Sherman I’m okay with that, too. With a coaching staff of Sherman, Bell, White, and Hill on the Offensive side of the ball and Durk, Champ, and Quinn on the Defensive side of the ball…our staff will be one of the tops in the country and should have top 3 recruiting classes every season.
Depends on the guy. If it’s a guy like Sherman that has been a Coach at both levels, knows recruiting, and has done it well, then I am okay with it. I was originally okay with the Weis hire, but we saw how that went. I don’t think it will be the same results with a guy like Sherman. From several of the A&M fans I talked to they all told me they liked Sherman a lot and hated to see him go. That was not the case with ND fans at all when it came to the firing of Weis.
Not another big name guy at least.
Someone fresh and willing to train people under him for his eventual replacement.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
If I were Bell, I would deline. UF needs to take a leap of faith with one of its own.
Bell is no less qualified to be OC at Florida, then Muschamp was/is to be HBC at Florida.
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To the extent that Muschamp was under qualified to be HC (which I don’t think he was), that would make a proven commodity all the more important at the OC position.
by BadJortsmanship on Jan 5, 2012 8:19 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
That is one valid argument
I am kind of enamored with Bell’s “Gatorness” though. I think this program needs a little loyalty after being crapped on by a couple recent coaches.
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Crapped on is what happened at UT. Meyer brought us 2 of our 3 national championships. If Muschamp wants to crap on us that way he’s more than welcome to as I’m concerned.
by GatorJustin on Jan 5, 2012 8:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I love championships as much as the next guy
I attended both of the national title games Meyer coached us in. But as an alumnus of the University of Florida, I also value intergrity in those who lead our student athletes. I have virtually no respect left for Urban Meyer. I see him as a snake oil salesman, and I’m no longer buying.
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by skigator93 on Jan 6, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I have virtually no respect left for Urban Meyer. I see him as a snake oil salesman, and I’m no longer buying.
You are wise, Ski.
Editor at Alligator Army.
Maybe, but probably not. I’ve asked my Georgia family several times if they’d trade Richt’s remarkable consistency for two NC and 6 up and down years and they all immediately say the NCs. Easy to ask for consistency if you’ve already got the NCs. Not buying it.
by GatorJustin on Jan 6, 2012 9:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well yeah, you always take the championships. But that doesn’t mean you can’t hate the person afterwards. Especially if what goes down happens. It’s not the first time it has happened to someone and it won’t be the last.
Just as long as it isn’t FSU, I’m good with it. Because that means they’ll have won a championship.
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Oh I have no respect for Meyer. I wasn’t arguing that. Skigator talked about us getting crapped on. I was putting it in perspective. UT got truly crapped on. No championships and Kiffen didn’t have the courtesy to flush after he left. That program is.still in the toilet. At least we won some championships and we aren’t on probation.
by GatorJustin on Jan 6, 2012 10:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It annoys me
When people are so offended by Florida fans for being upset with Ubran Liar. “He brought you 2 BCSNCs, wish it was for our team”…and blah blah.
Yeah I know, he was great and all that. Hes still a douche bag.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
by Hook85 on Jan 7, 2012 1:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed. Major d bag. I don’t think anyone argues that.
by GatorJustin on Jan 7, 2012 10:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Muschamp was a prestigous DC for many championship caliber teams.
The only step higher he could go is HC. I guess a smaller school would of been more deserving so I can see your point but I wouldnt be surprised if Bell makes the same or maybe more money than he did as a HC.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
I'd take it.
His chances of him getting a better position at a FBS school dramatically increases if he takes a assistant job at a big time program. Most schools are weary about taking FCS coaches no matter the level of success. Plus it’s a chance to come back to his school and coach up the QBs of the future and bring more success at Florida.
by gatorempire127 on Jan 5, 2012 6:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Not so fast
The way I see it, Muschamp should only offer Kerwin the QB Coach position if he already has his O.C. lined up and the new O.C. is in agreement with the hire. There’s too much coaching chemistry and philosophy involved to hire a QB Coach before an offensive coordinator. If Bell was offered, I would bet the house that an O.C. is already in place.
We could certainly do worse than White as OC and Bell as QB coach, like having Addazio as OC… I’m to the point where I think they need to go ahead and make a hire.
by GatorJustin on Jan 5, 2012 8:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
How would that work
the dive master with Kerwin Bell … I can see it now screen pass dive plays! every single down …
Coach Boom: Emperor Palpatine, I mean Saban, when I get to Florida who should I get to run my offense?
Emperor Pal ...err Nick Saban: Charlie Weis is better. He goes in first and screws the offense. Mike Shula is better. He leaves the fanbase devoid of hope and life. Oh, really, fool? Really.
[Notices Kerwin Bell walking up.]
Nick Saban: Stop looking at me, Bell.
Seems to work well for Oregon.
by gatorempire127 on Jan 5, 2012 10:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah but
Oregon doesn’t play 8 games against the SEC … of course next year we play 6 games against the SEC, 2 against the Big XII, 1 against the ACC, 1 from the MAC. 1 Sun Belt, and 1 FCS.
We could run the at offense to fools gold until Mizzou and A&M catch up to the SEC.
Coach Boom: Emperor Palpatine, I mean Saban, when I get to Florida who should I get to run my offense?
Emperor Pal ...err Nick Saban: Charlie Weis is better. He goes in first and screws the offense. Mike Shula is better. He leaves the fanbase devoid of hope and life. Oh, really, fool? Really.
[Notices Kerwin Bell walking up.]
Nick Saban: Stop looking at me, Bell.
Yeah that was of a burn towards Oregon more than it was we should do it cuz Oregon does it. I think oregons offense is terrible but it works cuz they play shit teams with the exception of a couple of teams.
by gatorempire127 on Jan 6, 2012 10:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed
However I believe if Oregon had a defense worth mentioning in 2010, they would’ve won that NC. But oh well.
Coach Boom: Emperor Palpatine, I mean Saban, when I get to Florida who should I get to run my offense?
Emperor Pal ...err Nick Saban: Charlie Weis is better. He goes in first and screws the offense. Mike Shula is better. He leaves the fanbase devoid of hope and life. Oh, really, fool? Really.
[Notices Kerwin Bell walking up.]
Nick Saban: Stop looking at me, Bell.
Agreed.
That defense wasn’t built to win against big teams.
by gatorempire127 on Jan 6, 2012 11:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
hahaha WHAT?!
Oregon’s office is terrible? haha…
Look, I get that beating Washington State is a bit different than facing the front 7’s for Alabama, LSU, Florida, etc. But to just flat out call Oregon’s offense “terrible” is more than just a little bit of a stretch.
I think he meant terrible when facing legit Top Defenses like LSU’s. Which, he does have a point. In the LSU-Oregon game on a neutral field Oregon only had 13 points after 3 quarters. Florida had 11 points after 3 Quarters at LSU and our offense was about as good as….well everything was better then our offense. But, I’m pretty sure even our offense could hang atleast 30 points on Washington’s Defense. Jesus.
Correctomundo.
Plucked the most predictable offensive game plan maybe in the game today. Guarantee I could call at least 80% of the plays before they happen. It goes like this: read option, read option, bubble screen, pass with a bubble screen option, read option, pass, bubble screen, read option, pass with a screen option. It’s like that the whole game. If they had to play top tier defenses every week with their undersized roster they’d get killed.
by gatorempire127 on Jan 6, 2012 2:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Plus it's****
Not “plucked”. I really gotta turn off auto correct.
by gatorempire127 on Jan 6, 2012 2:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Weary in Offensive prediction
With all due respect, most offenses that succeed are for the most part predictable. Take the New England Patriots, we all know that they are going to pass more than 67% of the time. Or even the Dallas Cowboys of the 90’s. Run Emmitt off guard (left or right) do it again, and find either Irvin, Novak, or Harper for a pass play, repeat … with slight variation.
Offensive game planning is more about knowing when to call and what your strengths are and sticking to them. Something I don’t believe Weis was able to identify with this team.
Coach Boom: Emperor Palpatine, I mean Saban, when I get to Florida who should I get to run my offense?
Emperor Pal ...err Nick Saban: Charlie Weis is better. He goes in first and screws the offense. Mike Shula is better. He leaves the fanbase devoid of hope and life. Oh, really, fool? Really.
[Notices Kerwin Bell walking up.]
Nick Saban: Stop looking at me, Bell.
Very good point.
I’ll kinda take back that last comment. Even tho I still think I could call the game for the majority.
by gatorempire127 on Jan 6, 2012 3:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
in all fairness
LSU is actually a top 1 defense. And the Ducks did score a TD more than anyone else that LSU faced this season.
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HOGWASH
Florida needs to fine a premier OC who can has experience in both the SEC and the NFL. Hiring a coach just because he once played for Florida is not only idiotic it will likely lead to another sub par season. I don’t want another good ole boy hire. I have no problem with Bell being interviewed but Muschamp should be interviewing others. Keep in mind, Muschamp is on thin ice himself. His performance as coach has not been good. He has no loyalty and that is why Weis left. Hiring Bell may lead to Muschamp’s own demise in a year or so, so he better think carefully before hiring Bell.
Whoa. Ummmm…Bell wouldn’t be the OC. He would just coach the QB’s. It would be a good hire. And Weis left because everyone hated him, he was only here for his son, and obviously he wanted to be a head coach again. Idk how thin the ice is for Muschamp. It’s alot thicker this week then the week after the Furman game, tho.
by Gators1 on Jan 6, 2012 12:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Wait, Muschamp's disloyalty is why Weis took a HC job?
I’m sorry, but that is one of the dumbest things I’ve seen written anywhere outside of a Bianchi column. Weis ran from SEC competition after spending a year getting schooled by any defense with a pulse. At no point did Muschamp allude to making changes on the coaching staff, despite the offense’s culpability in the losses to FSU, South Carolina, Georgia, and Auburn.
As far as “good ole boy hires” are concerned, you may remember that the last time a beloved, former Gator QB came back to coach, things turned out alright. I’d be much more leery of the faceless position coach promoted from within.
My anti-drug is football, because sometimes it is a better hallucinogen than anything you can get at Burning Man. - Spencer Hall 9/28/11
by car.full.of.midgets on Jan 6, 2012 8:28 AM EST up reply actions
I agree about being leery
Our last faceless promotion from within was Addazio. And I’d love to not hear “NFL experience” ever again. Pro experience and the ability to run a pro-style offense are not mutually exclusive.
What I’m having a hard time with regarding White is the gap in his resume after his 7 year stint as OC at Wisconsin. Why no other OC jobs after the regime change there? Seems odd to work that long as an OC for a well known program only to follow up with odd position coach jobs at awful programs like Syracuse and Washington. Anybody have a handle on this?
For me, our bowl game performance on offense did nothing to distinguish White from other candidates. I don’t know what grade I would give him, but he automatically got docked 20 points when I saw Trey Burton line up in the fucking wildcat formation. Is there such a thing as WildcatAIDS?
by Ghost of the Purple Porpoise on Jan 6, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Burton in the Wildcat is high on the list of things I never want to witness again.
They should just burn that page of the playbook, along with the chapter on running the tiniest back they can find directly into the teeth of the opposing defense.
My anti-drug is football, because sometimes it is a better hallucinogen than anything you can get at Burning Man. - Spencer Hall 9/28/11
by car.full.of.midgets on Jan 6, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
here here
as far as I am concerned I’d be happy if we all just forgot Burton was on the team and stop trying to fit him somewhere.
Coach Boom: Emperor Palpatine, I mean Saban, when I get to Florida who should I get to run my offense?
Emperor Pal ...err Nick Saban: Charlie Weis is better. He goes in first and screws the offense. Mike Shula is better. He leaves the fanbase devoid of hope and life. Oh, really, fool? Really.
[Notices Kerwin Bell walking up.]
Nick Saban: Stop looking at me, Bell.
by ECFIVESTER on Jan 6, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Seemed to work well against OSU
Had the highest AVG Per carry on the team.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
That's almost the only time it's worked well all year.
Looking at his stats for the year, the 3.4 ypc average isn’t terrible, but he had 9 carries for 8 total yards through the meat grinder that was October. He eclipsed 10 yards rushing in only the UAB, Kentucky(33), Vandy(11) and OSU games. I’m a huge Burton fan, but the team isn’t getting much production from him running out of the Wildcat. He’s a great kid whom the staff just didn’t use well this year. Hopefully, that’s something that will improve next year.
My anti-drug is football, because sometimes it is a better hallucinogen than anything you can get at Burning Man. - Spencer Hall 9/28/11
by car.full.of.midgets on Jan 6, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
It took off the parenthetical totals for UAB and OSU, which were 46 and 23 respectively.
My kingdom for an edit button!
My anti-drug is football, because sometimes it is a better hallucinogen than anything you can get at Burning Man. - Spencer Hall 9/28/11
by car.full.of.midgets on Jan 6, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
His running backwards for negative yards probably didnt help either,
I really like the wild cat play and hes proven that he can run it effectively if given enough space. But I would much rather see him as a 3rd down type back and be used to spell the other RBs. If Burton is in the back field a lot, I would still like to see him run the wild cat 2-3 times a game to force the defense to always keep an eye on him.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
From my understanding the only reason White lost his position at Wiscy is because of the Alvarez to Bielema transition. Why he never got a new OC position I’m not sure…and I can’t really say how he did at Wiscy because I didn’t follow them at all. I do know that they have always had awesome RB’s….How responsible White was for that, who knows. I still stand by my grade for White in the bowl game….and that is a B. Would I be mad if we stayed at OC? Absolutely not. Would I be mad if we brought in someone different at OC and kept him as RB coach? No.
a premier OC with experience in both the SEC and NFL?
you mean like Charlie Weis? a guy that bounces around from job to job between the NFL and college?
No thanks, I’m going to go with option B.
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Honeslty, QB coach is the thing I'm most concerned about
We really need to develop in that area if we want to be anything more than an Alabama Lite.
A great QB coach might actually be able to get it across to a coordinator that short, high completion passes develop a QB’s confidence and ability in a substantial way. We haven’t seen that attempted ever since Brantley got put in except for in the first couple of games where he was doing a good amount of swing passes.
Exactly
I think if they extended a role of Co-coordinator to Bell with the QB coach position this is already done.
However let’s not forget who Brantley’s highschool coach was … Kerwin Bell … don’t know what that says but it does say that Kerwin made Brantley look really good in high school.
Coach Boom: Emperor Palpatine, I mean Saban, when I get to Florida who should I get to run my offense?
Emperor Pal ...err Nick Saban: Charlie Weis is better. He goes in first and screws the offense. Mike Shula is better. He leaves the fanbase devoid of hope and life. Oh, really, fool? Really.
[Notices Kerwin Bell walking up.]
Nick Saban: Stop looking at me, Bell.
Florida Times-Union
How reliable are they?
Sources say UF coach Will Muschamp has reached a decision and is likely to promote interim offensive coordinator Brian White to replace Charlie Weis, who left UF on Dec. 8 to take the head coaching job at Kansas. Muschamp interviewed Kerwin Bell for the coordinator job prior to the Taxslayer.com Gator Bowl.
White coaches running backs for the Gators, the position he has specialized in for 13 of his 25 year-career, meaning Muschamp could hire a quarterbacks coach. However, sources believe Bell is not interested in joining the Gators staff as a position coach.
I find it interesting
that the gainesville sun doesn’t seem to be reporting on these rumors. (Gatorsports.com)
Coach Boom: Emperor Palpatine, I mean Saban, when I get to Florida who should I get to run my offense?
Emperor Pal ...err Nick Saban: Charlie Weis is better. He goes in first and screws the offense. Mike Shula is better. He leaves the fanbase devoid of hope and life. Oh, really, fool? Really.
[Notices Kerwin Bell walking up.]
Nick Saban: Stop looking at me, Bell.
So since White hasn't been named
which means he probably is not Will’s first choice, and Bell was offerred the QB coach position … Who is Muschamp targetting to be the OC? Or was hiring White as the OC contingent on getting Bell as the QB coach.
Coach Boom: Emperor Palpatine, I mean Saban, when I get to Florida who should I get to run my offense?
Emperor Pal ...err Nick Saban: Charlie Weis is better. He goes in first and screws the offense. Mike Shula is better. He leaves the fanbase devoid of hope and life. Oh, really, fool? Really.
[Notices Kerwin Bell walking up.]
Nick Saban: Stop looking at me, Bell.
I’ve heard he’s been targeting Oklahoma’s Co-Offensive Coordinator. Which would be weird, funny, and awkward since he came from Texas. I’ve heard the Oklahoma OC is a tremendous Recruiter and has brought in several 5 star Recruits. But, he seems content at Oklahoma so who knows. The other one I’ve heard is Boise State’s. I’m not a fan of the Boise State one.
Me neither since he's only been at Boise just this year
and it’s pretty well known that Petersen runs that thing.
Something to be said
about great teachers … which is what Chris Petersen is.
Coach Boom: Emperor Palpatine, I mean Saban, when I get to Florida who should I get to run my offense?
Emperor Pal ...err Nick Saban: Charlie Weis is better. He goes in first and screws the offense. Mike Shula is better. He leaves the fanbase devoid of hope and life. Oh, really, fool? Really.
[Notices Kerwin Bell walking up.]
Nick Saban: Stop looking at me, Bell.
Hes a local legend
But you have to earn your stripes and right now he deserves the QB coach position. Anything more is a stretch on our part. Which can sometimes be good but usually bad.
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor

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