Florida Tabs Boise State's Brent Pease As Offensive Coordinator, According To Pat Dooley
by Andy Hutchins on Jan 6, 2012 3:32 PM EST
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PrintBrent Pease will be Florida's next offensive coordinator, according to the Gainesville Sun's Pat Dooley. A search for a replacement for outgoing offensive coordinator Charlie Weis has apparently led Jeremy Foley and Will Muschamp to hire Pease, who has served as Boise State's offensive coordinator, wide receivers coach, and assistant head coach.
The Sun's Robbie Andreu was the first to report that Pease was a candidate for Florida's vacant OC position on December 30; Every Day Should Be Saturday's Spencer Hall reported on Wednesday that Florida and Alabama were both in on Pease, and reports today indicated that Pease was being hotly pursued by both Muschamp's Gators and Nick Saban's Crimson Tide.
Pease, a former quarterback, is considered one of the architects of Boise State's inventive and sometimes explosive offenses, and runs a pro-style scheme that has its fair few wrinkles designed to get the ball down the field.
As for whether Pease can succeed at Florida: You remember Boise flaying Georgia, right?
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Dooley has now backed off this assertion. Supposedly Saban is also targeting Pease and the final decision will not come until next week.
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but I loathe that mean, wee bastard.
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by car.full.of.midgets on Jan 6, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
Alabama is a high profile job
but I feel like Florida is the higher profile O-Coordinator position. Bama’s known for runningbacks and impossible defenses. Florida is known for the SEC points revolution. Foley/Muschamp should have the lead going into this thing, so let’s hope they don’t screw that up.
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by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Jan 6, 2012 4:26 PM EST reply actions
Not so sure I agree with the OC being a better job at UF. They are at best, the same … but I might give ’Bama a small lead.
1) Saban > Muschamp
2) Current players on roster at ’Bama > Current players on roster at UF
3) Recruiting at ’Bama (easier) > Recruiting at UF.
Among a few other things…
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Meh, recruiting at UF is as easy as anywhere in the nation
Alabama has never had a class like Meyer’s ‘10 class (disregard what happened after they arrived; that was a USC-like class). I’ll give Bama the current players nod, but an OC will have greater opportunity to shine in a system that glorifies offense (which the Gators will always do, Sabanites like Muschamp be damned) over a team that puts clock control first like Alabama.
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by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Jan 6, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
It’s easier to recruit at Alabama, than it is at Florida. Main reason being, competition.
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You may have noticed that Bama basically sewed up the consensus top recruiting class last night with a 5 star and 4 star commitment during the all-star game. Bama is at the top of the mountain right now along with LSU. UF is several notches down.
Would you rather come in and build your offense with a full stable or one that will take 3 years to fill?
In all kinds of weather...
I noticed it, but I don’t think that Chekhov’s did. But I will say, that if UF gets a few more, they’ll be #1 by a few services.
As for your question, I’d go to the full stable … and it’d take me half a second to make that choice.
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Saban cares about the offense.
Muschamp cares about his OC getting as wide a berth as necessary to operate.
I dunno if the roster or the recruiting are really slanted to ’Bama.
by Andy Hutchins on Jan 6, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno if the roster or the recruiting are really slanted to ’Bama.
They both are. It’s plain as day to see.
Think about the recruiting…
Florida has to compete with FSU, Miami (every now and then), Georgia, Alabama, LSU and every other program that recruits in Florida.
Alabama has to compete with Auburn and then can cherry pick nationally.
It’s so much easier to recruit at Alabama. The rosters right now, aren’t even close.
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….Except compare the talent in Alabama vs. the talent in Florida. There’s a hell of a lot more to go around in Florida.
by CanWeBeMature on Jan 6, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
And this is also true:
Florida is closer to the main vein of Florida talent.
by Andy Hutchins on Jan 6, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
I know this. Which is why there are 100 teams recruiting in Florida and probably 5-6 recruiting in Alabama.
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Uhhh, Alabama has to recruit against those teams, too?
It’s been easier to recruit at Alabama in the last two years because they won a title and so on?
It’s not nearly as open-and-shut as you think, I think. And Alabama’s not just cherry-picking elite recruits; other teams recruit those kids, too.
by Andy Hutchins on Jan 6, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
But y’all are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over-thinking this. Just think about it just for what it is, and go from there. You’d all be surprised how often that helps in situations like this.
If you were recruiting for homegrown talent, would you rather go against 2-3 teams or 10 teams?
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Would you rather be based in Florida or Alabama?
Florida. Every time.
by Andy Hutchins on Jan 6, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
True … but we’re also very biased in that aspect.
Maybe you really like the mountains, so you pick Tennessee. Or you really like the desert, so you pick Arizona State.
What if you don’t give a damn and view it (OC position) as just a stepping stone?
Exactly.
Now, I’m not saying that he if specifically given the choice between ‘Bama and Florida would pick ’Bama, I’m just saying.
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I meant in re: recruiting.
I’m STILL taking the state of Florida over Alabama every time.
by Andy Hutchins on Jan 6, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
Well, yeah, if we’re talking talent. But my point is, since there is a such a raid on the talent in Florida, by many (and I mean many) teams, it is easier to recruit at Alabama.
Talent aside, don’t even think about that.
Would you rather recruit in-state, for say a certain player, against 2-3 teams or say 20?
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Florida recruits Alabama as well
Talent raids go both ways. Bama does not have a lock on targets. Remember Tebow and Spikes? I’m sure Mike Shula does. Just because Bama has an edge now does not mean that edge is likely to continue. All Florida has to do is get better. It will always be more of a destination school for Florida talent.
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by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Jan 6, 2012 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
I give up.
Y’all are missing the point so much, that all it’s going to lead to is frustration.
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It's ultimately an Apples vs Oranges debate
Does Alabama get a ton of talent from being in state? Absolutely. However, Alabama does not produce enough talent to sustain them just off of In state kids, which means they have to go to Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, etc in order to get talent.
Florida produces an absurdly rich amount of talent and it can be spread amongst multiple teams. Is the competition fierce for recruits? Yes. But FSU and UF have some advantage by being the main in state schools. Granted, most of the kids FSU and UF want will also be getting offers from LSU, Bama, Georgia, etc.
by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 6, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
look at it this way
how many great players has UF pulled from the State of Alabama vs. how many great players has Bama pulled from the State of Florida???
I think Fla’s point is that Bama gets the Lion’s share from Alabama, PLUS its fair share from Florida and everywhere else too.
In all kinds of weather...
If you want to look at it objectively, UF's recruiting has been far superior over the past 10 years.
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by Boddington on Sep 19, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I literally wish I had killed myself on the train station after I got laid off
by Sean O on Sep 28, 2011 7:49 PM PDT
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by Ben Buchanan on Sep 28, 2011 7:48 PM PDT
by internet commenter on Jan 7, 2012 6:07 AM EST up reply actions
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by Boddington on Sep 19, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I literally wish I had killed myself on the train station after I got laid off
by Sean O on Sep 28, 2011 7:49 PM PDT
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by Ben Buchanan on Sep 28, 2011 7:48 PM PDT
by internet commenter on Jan 7, 2012 6:07 AM EST up reply actions
Jameis Winston and Percy Harvin say hi from Alabama
by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 6, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
*wipes egg off face*
Thought for sure Harvin was from Alabama. Still, FSU has pulled alot of recruits from the Mobile area the last few years and has done decently there historically. Contrary to what most think, not every kid in Alabama is planted with a Bama or Auburn chip in their brain at birth.
by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 6, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that’s why I said 2-3 teams. FSU was the 3rd team I was mostly talking about. I mean, I know that not every player has it set in stone at birth (as you said) but it is still easier to get an in-state kid if your the Crimson Tide, than the Gators.
Which is all I’ve been trying to say.
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This should end this argument. I just counted out of state athletes on Bama’s roster and Florida’s roster. Bama had 60 kids from out of state and UF had 21 (I’m counting those on a tablet with 2 crying babies near me so if I miscounted a little, oh well, you get the point). Bama routinely has to compete with an in state school to get their recruits while UF primarily competes with two other major schools and other out of state schools. Alabama barely has enough players to fill 25% of UA’s roster. Recruiting advantage: UF.
by GatorJustin on Jan 6, 2012 9:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Two crying babies are no excuse!!! (Just kidding.)
But yeah, it’s not really looking at the state per se. Though those numbers are surprising.
Try looking at it like this…
A) You’re Alabama, and you want to get a kid from say, Selma. Chances are that kid is going to have you (Alabama) and Auburn on his list from the get-go. Mostly because he’s heard of those two schools his entire life.
And then:
B) You’re Florida, and you want to get a kid from say, Cape Coral. Chances are that kid is going to have you (Florida), Florida State and Miami on his list from the get-go. Mostly because he’s heard of those three schools his entire life.
Now, of course there is a little give-and-take there in both options. So add in a school, say, LSU to both options. Say that kid from the onset has had all the teams “even” on his list.
Would you be more comfortable being A or B?
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Honestly, B. The major difference is there is probably 3-5 times as many SEC calibar athletes in Florida compared to Alabama, maybe more. If Bama misses on the Selma kid they have to go out of state and compete with say LSU for a Louisana kid that has similar talents to the Selma kid. If we miss on the kid in option B we have a good chance to land another since we have 2-4 more kids with similar talents. And as Meyer and Muschamp have proved, UF is a national brand and can get kids from around the SE and country just like Bama does. We don’t have to go out of state and compete with the incumbent university because we have more than our fair share to recruit here. Its way more difficult to convince kids to leave their state (comfort zone) then it is to to get them to stay.
by GatorJustin on Jan 6, 2012 10:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And if a kid does leave his comfort zone, is he more likely to go to middle of no where Tuscaloosa or the State of Florida?
by GatorJustin on Jan 6, 2012 10:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
By your numbers above, Tuscaloosa, but that could be mostly by design (because of the number of elite talent in Alabama compared to Florida).
But then again, you compare UF, FSU and Miami with Alabama and Auburn … and yeah, interesting.
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Hmmm, for the first time in the 5+ hours this conversation has been going on, you’re the first one to present a compelling argument for that side of the issue.
That’s fair. I accept that. Which is why from the beginning, I put the recruiting thing at #3 out of the 3.
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Completely agree with 1 and 2. Id also take 2 further and say UA’s roster should be better or as good as ours for another few years. Not only do we need to get to 85, those 85 need to be able to contribute like the 85 UA kids do.
by GatorJustin on Jan 6, 2012 10:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well said. Which is why if I’m someone like Pease, and I want to be a head coach, I’m thinking to myself: “If Saban offers, I’m all in.”
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Ugh. I begrudgingly agree. I hate admitting other SEC programs may be more attractive to coaches/recruits/etc.
by GatorJustin on Jan 7, 2012 12:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
We’ll get back there. In the 90’s, it was us, and from say 2006-2008 it was us again. We’re just dormant right now.
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Are we really still using the words "wide" and "berth"
to discuss our new OC?
"I'll always use the negativity as more motivation to work even harder and become even stronger."
August 4, 2011
I think Pease will be strong, wherever he lands.
Chris Petersen knows something about offensive football.
I said this earlier today
Chris Petersen runs that offense that there. Pease is an unknown quantity. If we were going unknown quantity, why not just get Bell?
BSUs offense was as good as it was because of kellen moore, who Pease developed as the QB coach.
by GatorJustin on Jan 7, 2012 11:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Kellen Moore has been good since he got there.
Before Pease was offensive coordinator he was the receivers coach. Petersen is largely responsible for Kellen Moore.
Greetings, from a BSU fan,
Its all Florida up on our site at this point. We’re all really happy for Coach Pease for landing such a prestigious OC position at UF. We’ll obviously miss him, however, Florida has always produced some of the most explosive offenses in CFB, and he will have much to contribute. When the Gators start battling for the NC again, you can rest assure that Bronco Nation will be rootin for you as well. That is of course, unless your playing us. What a beautiful stadium that would be.
All joking aside, we really hope he does great things for Florida, and we also hope that we can build some rapport with the Gator program & fans. I’m saying we, because after the initial shock, the majority of comments were of strong blessings & well wishing.
I can’t speak for the coaches, but us fans would love to watch some games between the Gators & Broncos. (At some point)
If you ever wanted to see Boise St play...may be a good chance. Love em or Hate em, they are always interesting; and now, no matter where you live, "They're Coming To Your City"
by astrosmurf on Jan 7, 2012 3:59 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I’m excited about Pease. Unfortunately, its not a done deal. I believe he interviews with Bama for their OC position Tuesday. Id certainly be pleased with him if he could develop another Kellen Moore here.
by GatorJustin on Jan 7, 2012 11:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Thanks astrosmurf
That’s great to hear, let’s hope it holds true. And as far as meeting in a NC game … that stadium would be beautiful. I don’t know the color of the sunset in Idaho, but in Florida it’s Orange & Blue.
Coach Boom: Emperor Palpatine, I mean Saban, when I get to Florida who should I get to run my offense?
Emperor Pal ...err Nick Saban: Charlie Weis is better. He goes in first and screws the offense. Mike Shula is better. He leaves the fanbase devoid of hope and life. Oh, really, fool? Really.
[Notices Kerwin Bell walking up.]
Nick Saban: Stop looking at me, Bell.
Thanks for stopping by.
I wouldn’t mind a match-up between Boise and the Gators. Though I’d want it either in Atlanta (like UGA did), Jacksonville, or The Swamp. But with expansion, the only time it’ll happen now, is in a bowl game.
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I totally hear that FlaGators, EC, and GJ
We’re working on expansion too, and we know you guys are big time. 53,000 seats are also coming, and should narrow the $ gap. That’s why I said’ "At some point….
You should know though, out of all the teams that should feel totally comfortable playing on the blue, it would be your guys. Man that really would be a pretty sight.
Thanks for the response guys, your alright.
I got a buddy who lives real close. Gonna have to visit and schedule a game next year.(If there’s a couple open seats?)
I like Jacksonville, but is Tampa an option for a “nuetral” site? Just havin fun here….
If you ever wanted to see Boise St play...may be a good chance. Love em or Hate em, they are always interesting; and now, no matter where you live, "They're Coming To Your City"
We’ve played games in Tampa as a “neutral site” before. It’s been a long time (since the 80’s), and it was against Miami, but at least we know it can be done.
Tickets to the Gators should be easier than normal next year. Due to the economy. And yes, I refuse to acknowledge (at least at this time) that our crap of a team this past year has anything to do with it.
If the Gators were to travel to Boise, I’m sure some agreement would be made that no team could wear “All-Blue” which would be interesting. I mean, what if we both wore our all-blues, and with the field … it’d be a spectacle.
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I'd hate to watch that game prior to HD
it would be maddening
Coach Boom: Emperor Palpatine, I mean Saban, when I get to Florida who should I get to run my offense?
Emperor Pal ...err Nick Saban: Charlie Weis is better. He goes in first and screws the offense. Mike Shula is better. He leaves the fanbase devoid of hope and life. Oh, really, fool? Really.
[Notices Kerwin Bell walking up.]
Nick Saban: Stop looking at me, Bell.
Oh, as far as the sky and stuff, here is a quote I saw a wile back, on our site. Sound familiar?
“My heart leaped and I was in football nirvana when we destroyed UGA. I bleed Orange and Blue. And I whole heartily believe that God loves the Broncos. That’s why sky’s are blue and sunsets are orange. GO BRONCOS!”
See, we do have some things in common, right? Just replace the “Broncos” with “Gators” and I bet you’ve read the same type of comments down here, no?
If you ever wanted to see Boise St play...may be a good chance. Love em or Hate em, they are always interesting; and now, no matter where you live, "They're Coming To Your City"
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